Batman and Robin with Nika Howard

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Arnold's back for another Action Thanksgiving™ and this time he's killing global warming. That's right, it's Batman and Robin, with special guest @Nika_Howard of Greetings Adventurers @DnDPodcast

Starring Ash Blodgett, Bret Eagleston, Samantha Willson and Patrick Edwards. Guest starring Nika Howard @Nika_Howard

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Pat: But what don't you have grapes again.

Sam: Watch movies.

Bret: Hello and welcome to another episode 13 watch the show we watch movies that we loved in our youth and find out if they're still any good I'm Brett.

Sam: I'm saying.

Ash: Imask.

Pat: And I'm.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: Heck yeah it's been awhile since we've done one of these.

Pat: Yeah.

Ash: Oh yeah back together again have.

Bret: I mean like literally months now I don't know if it's forever.

Ash: Maybe.

Sam: Yeah I mean.

Pat: Fontana 2:30 month I don't know what is time.

Sam: Last recorded you had Sam 2. 0.

Ash: We did Rachel.

Sam: Okay.

Pat: When you two were.

Pat: On a plane.

Pat: What you stealing to have Ron so she was not on the show she's not on the show either but you know who it is on this show.

Pat: Is it very special guest I am very happy to introduce podcaster and streamer you.

Ash: Did you just know you just said no just no.

Pat: Yes I am by I'm rolling with it and pushing through and pushing through Brett's brightest isms the bread and pushing through the thick cloud of readiness.

Ash: We had such a polite podcast episode without you Brett.

Ash: So nice.

Pat: Everyone was so kind to accept the compliments were flowing in the.

Sam: Sounds Mighty boring.

Bret: That's not how the show supposed to be pad.

Pat: Joining us tonight is podcaster instreamer cast member of the award-winning greetings adventurers podcast.

Pat: Miki Howard.

Ash: Yay.

Bret: LOL.

Ash: Welcome.

Ash: How dare you get off the podcast now.

Nika: Hi thank you I'm so I'm so sorry I let a little peep of a laugh out earlier before I was formally introduced feel free to cut it.

Pat: I respect the energy.

Ash: I'm excited because now I've met everybody on your podcast greetings Adventure.

Nika: Evan bockman.

Pat: Jimmy Bachman.

Ash: No I don't know who that is you know I don't actually listen to the podcast.

Pat: Keith pegues.

Nika: He's the most elusive one there's two Michaels it's a very tricky.

Ash: Okay okay I just barely very nicely met a lot of them at a cotton once they were all very nice and let me hang out with them all day.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: Document also had small children he's not quite as he doesn't travel to the to the events as much as the others do.

Ash: Okay I wasn't sure if you meant like a plane.

Ash: Wow.

Ash: That's so cool.

Nika: He gets to go to like a pilot convention he is very into flight simulators and he gets to go to like a flight simulator actual pilot plane so he goes to like one of those a year so that's usually his thing so he he gets to miss out while he he has to miss out sometimes some things but the very rare Pokemon of podcasters like if you can find them.

Pat: And.

Nika: I really shiny one.

Pat: We are joined my niggaa on I know this is going to be finishing time for you because if you if you are listen to our show and you're aware of critics adventurers as of today they just released and as of the date of us recording an episode that is essentially the finale.

Ash: As of this today 100th of Our Lord desperately.

Nika: On this 18th of October.

Pat: Okay I'm trying to be they just released the the the the end the finale of a the grand sweeping campaign that has lasted how many years has.

Nika: 9 years I think I'm total.

Pat: Would you say 9 years.

Nika: Yeah I think it's.

Ash: So this is the perfect time for me to start listening.

Nika: Yeah it absolutely is yeah we're going to start like a little a short like in intermediate campaign before we jump into it so yeah it's like primetime.

Ash: Okay cool yeah cuz Michael and Tim were like telling me like oh start with this episode or whatever but I was still like have lost their so many I can't.

Ash: Hey yo.

Nika: Oh my gosh we should do that oh I like that.

Pat: You can probably Source from the audience the people cuz I like the show I have listen to do I've been listening for I think since the beginning I caught you guys pretty early.

Nika: Blabber it still counts everyone's a slaver.

Ash: Wow.

Pat: Yeah I'm a slaver what blows my mind is when we all will read reviews at the end and people will say that they've listened through the entirety multiple times I'm like that so much butts.

Sam: That's dedication that's awesome.

Ash: That's a lot yeah.

Sam: I I have.

Nika: I have listened up until whenever I joined I had listened to it at least twice and then once I joined I I am cursed with the horrible thing that I hate the sound of my voice so I cannot listen to it so I I unfortunately can't listen to any of the episodes us but I hear they're really good.

Ash: Don't know so you won't listen to this episode either I guess.

Bret: If you date somebody.

Sam: I have a hot tip for you if you date somebody who forces you to listen to your own voice and you don't really have a choice you eventually will grow out of it.

Sam: Yep.

Ash: Hundred percent you will get over it after a while that is true.

Pat: But you add it yourself like that wasn't.

Nika: You learn to love it I feel like the problem is I hear the things and then I'll like say to my head like oh you're going to say this and then I'm like oh that's so I don't know myself which is like yeah yeah.

Ash: You're like rewriting your dialog on this phone.

Bret: Oh that's fun this and does that too but she will listen through it again and then while we listening should be like.

Ash: I love that.

Ash: Snowman.

Pat: Not me I listen listen to every I say and every time I just think another Banger Pat way2go.

Bret: Oh my God yeah I cuz I don't think he knows.

Nika: Ya podcast Alicia Isreal.

Ash: I have the opposite where our friend RJ text me things that I must have said in the podcast that I have no memory of sounds like.

Pat: Oh yeah.

Bret: And I don't think he knows I like sometimes we record these like few months before they come out like.

Bret: Now there is.

Ash: I know and I'm like I don't I don't know what the what you're saying he's like like who you said the podcast oh yeah I don't listen to it.

Bret: There is one other very special thing about today that you guys probably don't fully realize because my really schedule has been so chaotic but this episode serendipitously is going to fall on action Thanksgiving.

Ash: Perfect perfect.

Bret: It's so perfect.

Pat: Perfect.

Pat: Yeah.

Ash: Happy Thanksgiving action Thanksgiving Happy action can there be like action was like for a while now.

Sam: Guys guys you know how perfect this is for Action Thanksgiving cuz cuz you know who's in this movie.

Bret: Pandas.

Nika: So many people.

Ash: Maybe.

Pat: I'm yeah I mean one of our like Mount Rushmore of the show Arnold himself.

Sam: Yeah of yeah.

Bret: He's he's the accent Thanksgiving guy yeah.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: We Arnold Arnold's until whites were God oh my God oh my God.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Now I understand.

Bret: It's so so so perfect.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: Well I guess it's it's on the episode title so they downloaded Missy you know I'd like we always do that.

Sam: Oh.

Pat: Kids wrong price if you're listening you are the wrong.

Sam: Bryce.

Ash: Now I understand my boyfriend's reaction when I was like hey you want to watch this with me he was like he is wrong but I understand his reaction.

Bret: No.

Bret: Podcast Batman and Robin.

Sam: Bryce is so wrong in fact our friends they were hanging out before it more like we're doing the podcast for watching Batman and Robin and then we're not going to soccer practice we're staying here and watching with you like okay awesome the best and worst Batman.

Bret: I think this is the movie that came out at the wrong time but it's a perfect movie for this decade because it is the capital H horniest Batman.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: Oh really wow.

Nika: Yeah.

Sam: I mean yeah he's got freaking headlights the entire movie Just high beams a blaring.

Pat: It's okay.

Ash: You know if you don't have enough padding I totally understand you know.

Pat: I'm still I'm still playing with a new game I want to play I have the title for it absurd Cloud as in Wake word cloud cuz you know I like to look at the word cloudy like the keywords that people search with this.

Ash: No.

Bret: Did you hear the song I made for this absurd cloud.

Pat: Oh did you.

Ash: Oh my God yes can you just send me all the fun songs you do without me having to listen.

Ash: So good.

Pat: I think I did we just pass it like over the weekend on Facebook with a one-year of the the spiders the song that Brett got together of me which will send its unique.

Ash: It's worth it.

Nika: Please.

Bret: Off today is like bouncing around.

Sam: The Google home totally played walk today and I was like bouncing around with my six-month-old like yeah.

Pat: Do that video you posted where you're like what did you tell it to play and it started playing.

Bret: We've asked it to play the Reading Rainbow theme song and it played Reading Rainbow featuring DMX and it was just the Reading Rainbow theme song with a bunch of squares cut into it.

Ash: You know what though that's so on brand with for you though that's so on brand.

Nika: Oh my God.

Sam: It is but it's hilarious and now it started to haunt me and like the other day has a what am I hearing and I like clicked the volume up on the Google home and it was just playing the Reading Rainbow DMX unprovoked.

Bret: It was just like it randomly just starts playing it.

Sam: I was like what is going on.

Pat: Itsfunneh.

Ash: Trying to tell you something.

Bret: Oh God.

Nika: What if that's your theme song for your life now.

Ash: Wow.

Pat: That's why you sent I think they're just big records or she's pushing because maybe a couple of months ago our girls were trying to tell our Google home like a Google Play a song and it was also start the cardi B started playing and I like ran into the playroom like no.

Bret: My Philosophy.

Sam: You could just take my philosophy and just feel like starting young I mean I was not joking when I said I was like Boppin to walk this morning like holding my six-month-old.

Bret: He's like doing well dance.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: Yeah you can you can get away with it at that age isn't what they're saying I'm minor almost 6.

Ash: Build in the expectation that women enjoy sex too early and it's nothing but good.

Nika: It's so true.

Bret: Although I did I did have a dream.

Sam: Yes I agree I'm all for this I'm although I did I did have a dream that are baby's first words were you and I was like oh oh no.

Bret: It's very likely.

Sam: It is very light.

Nika: So my.

Ash: Yeah I mean I'm going to say Sam Hits.

Sam: Yes.

Pat: That's.

Bret: Love this.

Pat: I mean death.

Sam: That is a fantastic story.

Pat: The most America thing ever.

Nika: So my first words legitimately were go b**** go because my papa was driving and the light turns green and the person in front did not go and apparently the sweet voice sweet Angelic child voice in the back was mine repeating go bit ago and I've never stop swearing.

Ash: Can I be your gravestone we could go fetch go.

Pat: She went.

Sam: It's your epitaph.

Ash: Perfect.

Nika: Yeah go bitch go.

Pat: No.

Bret: I'm sorry I was detoured from your attempt to talk about absurd cloud.

Ash: Yeah mister hard out over here doing the tanjun.

Nika: Yes.

Pat: I want to Nika I want to ask you so you suggested this and I am in our email and I M like yes 1000.

Nika: You know I think it's really funny that you said what you said because it's because I love it with ermine so much as poison ivy as a young young child very confused about why are girls so pretty why are man nipples so pretty you know this was a great movie because it provides a young bisexual so much I just feel like.

Ash: We got a little from column a little from column B.

Nika: You know you can get that you have Arnold Schwarzenegger it's so bright and colorful and the characters and everything I I just remember it's so fondly in my head that I was like it has to still be good.

Nika: Yeah.

Nika: They're beautiful.

Pat: I know unless I know them the mummy the Brendan Fraser outing The Mummy has been getting a lot of love in the past year so online as like everyone's bisexual Awakening film and rightly so cuz everyone is very very hot and attractive in that movie.

Ash: Especially the mummy use very hot.

Ash: It's true.

Pat: I mean actually yes before he was like in the flashbacks when he's like he's a handsome man.

Bret: That's that's the two crowds did you like the mummy before or after.

Ash: It's like a BuzzFeed quiz to find out your sexuality do you like.

Bret: Turns out you're into monster porn00.

Ash: Welcome to this section of Reddit.

Pat: So.

Nika: Damn I mean this is a Venn diagram between the mummy and Batman and Robin monster p***.

Ash: Shrew.

Bret: The Google.

Ash: Oh wow.

Sam: You know it's funny that you mention this because Brett was Googling a Convention Center on Google and the Google photo was of a still shot of a Furry Convention it was our hotel.

Pat: Cool.

Bret: It was the who was our hotel yeah and it's not like where we going navigate it was fun.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: Sannino that's like the hotel employees are probably pretty cool and chill cuz like anything you do they're going to be like that's whatever you like I'm so sorry to bother you bro it's okay like.

Bret: I just don't know how you're going to walk around Phoenix Arizona wearing the Fairy Costume they got to wait too hot.

Ash: No no.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: Dedication to the life bro.

Nika: That is.

Sam: Yeah yeah that's I didn't even think about that what a poor location.

Pat: Are there other scalies other scaly reptiles their persona.

Nika: How to be right.

Ash: I don't I don't like that word please don't say that word.

Sam: That is that is a real thing and and they are called scalies.

Bret: That is that is a real thing.

Pat: Is that the word.

Ash: So not good.

Bret: That's.

Nika: We okay do do they wear outfits like the mermaid tails like those kind of like silicone like rubber eyes outfits.

Bret: Ocean connect.

Ash: Rubberised or rubberized.

Sam: I don't know but I know a lot of my friends in the stop-motion Community they had to build.

Nika: Rubberised I Arlene h.

Ash: Sorry Sam.

Sam: Okay answer.

Bret: Unless there's a good Venn diagram of the crossover between the scaly community in the eczema Community 2.

Sam: Tell us more facts.

Ash: God.

Bret: And I am pulling the brake backpack absurd cloud.

Nika: Best year ever.

Pat: Okay this movie came out in 1997 What a year does let's go ahead I just forgot the mechanics of this are we still working it out but I'll take some guesses at what the top 5 terms are for keywords.

Bret: Nipples.

Ash: Ice.

Sam: Oh yeah that's a good one environment I'm going to say environment.

Sam: Just cuz Poison Ivy's in it and she's like all environmental and stuff.

Sam: Maybe like chemical I feel like I don't know.

Pat: Yeah okay.

Nika: Oh.

Bret: I want to know some of those IMDb word get really specific like kissing on the mouth.

Ash: We can do phrases.

Nika: 10th glances.

Sam: Okay.

Bret: Okay.

Pat: So I'mma go from from five down to one in the order so this is the fifth one is freeze the fourth one's ice.

Ash: Those clothes.

Sam: What.

Ash: Okay.

Nika: Okay.

Bret: Okay.

Bret: Arnold.

Ash: Oh that's right.

Pat: The third one is pun just pun pun fun I mean that's one of my trivia is is Arnold says 27 I space puns in this movie number 2 is heavy breathing.

Sam: Oh no.

Ash: Oh no.

Pat: The number one bat nipples.

Bret: Yes nibbles.

Sam: Yes wait that's like key words like these are said in the Fillmore these are said about the film.

Bret: Now this is like the IMDb like word cloud tag.

Pat: No it's just like like search-term.

Sam: Oh okay I thought it was like what was said in the film.

Bret: It's the things it's when it's people typing these words into search and then finding this movie and clicking on it because that is what they were looking for when they search bat nipples.

Sam: Well okay that's fair alright alright that I was.

Ash: Why yes I was looking for this vill.

Sam: I'm.

Bret: I'm surprised that anyone is just searching heavy breathing on IMDb but hey they ended up here.

Sam: Yep but I totally misunderstood the game then and I might see.

Pat: I mean on the internet sure in general like on Google have yeah but not on.

Ash: That's why I was like environment is a weird choices.

Nika: Poison ivy.

Bret: I was thinking like out of the script the word said like that would.

Pat: Yeah yeah okay.

Sam: I was thinking like of the script the word said like that would be my bad.

Bret: This is Poison Ivy's second-best appearance behind the the new cartoon Harley Quinn show.

Pat: Harley Quinn show which is so good it's so good.

Nika: Oh gosh yes that's amazing.

Sam: Yes it's phenomenal.

Ash: Check it out.

Bret: It's real good.

Pat: 7 directed by Joel Schumacher.

Sam: Really.

Pat: Prolific.

Sam: Wow.

Pat: He was a he directed the one before the steward about Comer one.

Bret: They wrangled control of the series away from Tim Burton.

Pat: Yeah so it's it's weird cuz he's are all lumped together these for right this is the first two are very very strong they're so different though if you go back and watch the four of them they are the first two in the third and fourth.

Pat: It is not the same city it's so you have Tim Burton Batman Batman Returns Batman Forever Tim Burton did not direct that one he produce a producer I think.

Sam: Really.

Bret: I feel like it had still felt very bertony that Batman Forever.

Pat: It was kind of looks like maybe a blend of the two cuz I said Tim Burton was still a producer on it.

Bret: Craig.

Pat: Craig come back.

Pat: One second.

Pat: We didn't.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: Edward Scissorhands is my favorite movie I'm leaving.

Pat: Everyone double-check make sure your personal recording still looking good and I will jump back in.

Sam: You know I have.

Bret: You know I have grapes again.

Nika: Use.

Ash: Oh yeah no I was pretending to be alastor.

Pat: What don't you have rights against.

Sam: FairPoint.

Bret: Hat.

Bret: Pat you're stealing my stick here.

Ash: Great.

Pat: Okay we are hey we're back confirming yes Joel Schumacher did direct the Batman Forever Val Kilmer outing as well.

Sam: Alright.

Pat: Did the first yep let's it's a lot I'm going to try and be super.

Pat: But the conversation has a lot to talk about these.

Pat: He believed had been fighting cancer for a while but I didn't seem very very shallow diving on him and he seems really interesting it's like a lot of people make the joke about like these movies were very Like Cocaine fuel but actually he had been he has a very crazy wild life with lot of drug use but he's actually was soaked it got sober in 92 so he was Stone sober making this.

Pat: He seems like a pretty decent guy he went on like a whole tirade like going after media and reporters cuz they were criticizing Alicia Silverstone who's in this cuz a bunch of Batgirl scenes had to be cut cuz she had gained a little weight and couldn't fit like into the Batgirl suit and then of course certain Outlets were total f*** heads about that and he called a bunch of like magazines and stuff personally to like read them the riot act about how f*****-up it wasn't like she's like a teenager reliever the f*** alone like it's normal for people to fluctuate their weights late like maybe like f*** the f*** off.

Bret: This raises.

Nika: She literally was like 16 to 18 during this time.

Sam: Wow.

Bret: Yeah that raises a lot of questions I'm agreeing with ashes looks on camera here.

Ash: Says the guy that cut the seams.

Pat: Yeah I guess Fair.

Sam: Also the guy that guy that refused to make a room in the budget for a alteration to the suit but yeah.

Ash: Yeah that doesn't quite sit well with me.

Sam: Only afford.

Pat: Okay.

Bret: They could only afford one suit per person and you know like the batsuit once it had the nipples everyone knew was a bad idea but they just like it that's it we're stuck with the suit.

Sam: Also why spandex is a thing why was that not.

Pat: Is a robber.

Ash: Rubber stretches.

Bret: You just eat it's it's a look of the of the of the later series is it's a very hard hard-bodied hard rubber very fat as she looks everything.

Ash: TRUE.

Sam: Wow.

Pat: How much those shipway the Batman costume weighs 50 lb the the the cape the cape weighed 40 lb that does include the cape.

Ash: The cape.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: What.

Bret: 40.

Nika: Took 90 lbs total.

Ash: Wow.

Nika: Good God.

Pat: Yeah 50 + 4490 lb yeah he's wearing.

Ash: Wow.

Bret: Why haha.

Nika: Yeah.

Bret: Hey call that maths planning.

Ash: Yeah he'll just do the math back at you you just to confirm.

Pat: I don't know what I'm looking at my notes not people's Batgirl and Robin's costumes for 50 lb and mr. Freeze's weighed 75 pounds.

Ash: Wow.

Ash: Yeah right.

Ash: He'd be fine.

Pat: Right.

Nika: Why did you give Arnold the one that weighed the lesser amount when he yeah.

Sam: You know let's let's sit on this for a second can you imagine a world where Arnold played Batman instead of George Clooney.

Sam: Be amazing.

Bret: I mean that would be a fantastic movie absolutely.

Pat: I'd love it.

Ash: It's like the spider-verse but the Batman verse where it's just like different version.

Pat: I would love that.

Ash: Eastlake Brava different universe.

Sam: Abadie verse.

Ash: Yeah.

Nika: What about the next Batman that's this Generations Batman.

Sam: Baddie.

Ash: Albadi verse I heard daddy verse.

Nika: Nobody verse yeah I'm so sorry.

Ash: Okay.

Ash: Yes I was like wait what.

Nika: But also daddy burgers.

Sam: No no no no no no no no no.

Pat: That's just all the different versions of me.

Bret: What did you what did you hear the daddy versed.

Nika: All Batman or dads.

Bret: Nuestra teacher.

Ash: Wow.

Sam: So funny story I'm sure told us on the podcast but I'll tell it again when I was in preschool my dad told me that that man used to be called Fatman but then he lost a lot of weight and he was able to change his name to Batman is like not dad is like yeah go ask your teacher not thinking that two-and-a-half 3 year old me would actually go and ask my preschool teacher and I chose to ask my teacher the day before parents night and so I asked her that night my teacher confronted my dad about my car it's so good.

Sam: Yep yep.

Pat: That's amazing that's some great daddy right there love it I respect you.

Ash: I see nothing wrong with this scenario.

Pat: We've named checked a few quite a few people but let's do a quick rundown of the cast we have this is George Clooney as the bat his first outing and we have course Arnold Schwarzenegger as mr. Freeze.

Pat: Afraid I've heard in reference to a character.

Ash: I like that you keep using the word outing as if it's like a summer afternoon today.

Pat: And.

Nika: Casual 90 lb.

Pat: And I think I should also Thurman as poison ivy Chris O'Donnell who was contractually obligated to be in every other movie from 1996 to 1999 is Robin Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl and it was so interesting about this whole thing of movies is with this run is so much changes of the aesthetic and the people playing the characters in who's in the vibe of these movies is all very different but there are two constants in these foreign this in his nineties Batman movies in that is Michael Goff who played Alfred pennyworth through all four.

Pat: And Pat Hingle who played Commissioner Gordon throughout for movies are the only two who remained constant throughout for their roles.

Ash: Before Christmas.

Bret: I feel like there is a certain cohesion between the styles of these movies in my memory but like it I guess it's just like the weird stuff cuz I had the the burnt ones or definitely was just like the Batman before Christmas or whatever but like the these later ones I feel like it feels like like the closest thing to Lego Batman in my memory where it was just like something about the world. Feels like a like a toy world.

Pat: This one for sure.

Nika: Yeah I think that's the one thing that I remember about this so much as that it's just it felt so different all of the other Batman feel like really dark and gritty and the villains are with with the exception of hurdler the villains are pretty like you know normal-looking or like kind of just Gaga.

Nika: Greedy people but like everyone is so bright and colorful and Batman and Robin just everything seems like so over the top.

Ash: Definitely.

Pat: One more one more Castle to call it just cuz I think it's interesting and I didn't know this was their r100m movie has to have like shots of him as a kid going through or dealing with things are getting some like words of wisdom from Alfred it's a requirement apparently but the actor who plays young Bruce Wayne in this is the same kid who is the kid in in The Santa Clause that the Tim Allen Santa Clause his son Charlie.

Sam: Really.

Pat: Notice that yeah it was look for that apparently it is noticed that but yeah.

Sam: Was he also the kid in that Home Alone reboot.

Pat: I don't think so.

Ash: Probably not.

Ash: Just like Santa Claus.

Sam: Oh.

Bret: This explains canonically how they can have the same connected series and so many different Batmans because if you kill the Batman you become him just like The Santa Clause.

Nika: And if you think about it if the only two characters that are the same or Commissioner Gordon and Alfred are they not the main characters of the whole series.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: And it's funny cuz they're both like in this like straight man in like straight man rolls to the these f****** lunatics around them dressing up in costumes is like like the police force I'm just trying to be a butler to a wealthy estate and it's like.

Bret: I like.

Pat: Here comes another one yes yes yes here we go getting drinks late at night.

Bret: It's either that.

Nika: Suit & Tie one day I don't know.

Bret: Ass either that or like the they're the Puppet Masters of this like weird body-switching world like kind of like a dark City Vibe.

Nika: Oh my God.

Sam: Oh this is good.

Sam: It sounds like an awesome Robot Chicken sketch.

Bret: Let's see how they act when the batsuit has nipples.

Pat: Edgar Gordon is like peas like the Seas like head of the city he like changing the sit around that's why it looks so wildly different in the different movies like now and I'm really in the neon right now so I'm going to make this whole f****** City and Cheyenne Trail.

Bret: I've spent.

Nika: He's going through a cyberpunk phase okay.

Bret: I spent a lot of time on tiktok lately and I really fall in love with by lighting let's do it for the whole town.

Pat: Press conference of the mayor of Gotham is like our crime is through the roof will look we freed up 7. 3 million dollars in the budget to do neon lighting every block the whole city.

Bret: I mean I really could earache again Pat take us through is it anywhere anyone else on the cast.

Pat: As far as household names know that we should L McPherson is in this is a smaller also is actually Vivica A Fox's a small role in this is well.

Sam: Oh.

Ash: Random.

Pat: Nope. Yeah I think as far as cast that does that and then that this like I said I talked about it the only film and he's for that Timber and had no involvement and.

Pat: This is the second Batman movie in which the actor playing the main villain was build over the actor playing Batman.

Bret: Wait what was the first one.

Pat: The first one Jack Nicholson got the building over Keaton for the first Batman.

Sam: Wow so does that mean Arnold got it over Clooney.

Pat: Cocooning at this time this was his like leap two major films he was just the guy from.

Bret: This was his leap.

Sam: Oh from the ER right.

Bret: This.

Ash: Wow.

Pat: He talks he talks about a lot how like how is very mixed feelings and like a lot of them very much regret doing this movie and does a route was like an urban legend that if he needs you and you tell him you went saw in theaters he gives you a refund on your ticket price I saw that come up multiple times but also he's like but also it was like my first big like starring major film role and kind of allowed me to make that crossover.

Nika: Interesting.

Ash: I'm sorry but he doesn't get to say that he regrets doing any film sorry no.

Nika: Yeah.

Sam: Oh you know I mean I thought could have Works actually.

Bret: You want to.

Nika: I don't hate the idea of it.

Nika: He needs to grow good facial hair we have to see what he looks like with wild facial hair.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: I think we got that a little bit in that that goat movie The Men Who Stare at Goats let me have a whole thing in that.

Ash: Vicki Devin midnight sky as well.

Bret: Siri loves Raven traded by.

Pat: Oh yeah no that's good I like it.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: What a weird I I really wanted to find more information on this piece of trivia because it's fascinating to me I want to know how the decision was made because these are both kind of in development early early development at similar times but the working title of this movie that we're about to watch was Batman Forever with a 4 cuz it's the fourth movie and the and the other one was going to be called Batman and Robin somehow they switched.

Pat: I don't know why.

Bret: Really.

Pat: I couldn't find it but I'm like yeah why didn't you do that Batman and Robin you just Robin in the mail camera one and then this is the fourth one Batman Forever.

Sam: Yeah me too.

Bret: Yeah cuz I have the as a younger me I definitely thought that the titles were reversed like I always like Batman Forever that's this one Batman Robin was the one where Robin shows up right like.

Sam: I mean doesn't Robin show up in this.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: Batman and Robin this is very he's introduced in the one before.

Bret: Yeah.

Sam: Oh yes it's yes okay yeah I totally thought that as well for the title.

Ash: I mean they named it with him but he doesn't show up on the phone that all the title.

Bret: Alright.

Ash: I'm glad that joke went over real well.

Bret: It went they went under when under ass is 6 ft.

Pat: But let's do the money game.

Nika: Oh God I'm so bad.

Nika: Was it Tim.

Pat: Sup Niger we are going to guess the budget will start the budget we really like budget and like total gross how much you think this money and we had assumed closest number wins we had to guess at the last one who just assumed you're doing crisis right wheels and I didn't want to check about it.

Ash: No.

Pat: No.

Nika: Okay I was like we always do things my Price is Right so it's time that made sense.

Ash: Yeah.

Nika: 3 hours.

Pat: Tim and Jennifer are welcome to come back or imposing a strict run time limit on them cuz they made us watch the Kevin Costner Robin Hood which is like almost 3 hours log or something like that but budget how much do we think and I have an estimated budget how much we think this movie cost to make.

Ash: 97.

Ash: Go for it.

Nika: I want to say something okay I have no clue so I don't know why I started to say anything first but I feel like I want to say either like.

Nika: Okay wait hold on how much did it cost to make something like Titanic.

Pat: Is this like the windows this year too.

Nika: Okay perfect.

Ash: I don't know if the top of my head but I will say a low-budget movie is 40 million a high budget movie is like 80 million and up if that helps.

Nika: Okay because my guess was 150 million 150 million.

Nika: Okay.

Ash: Yeah that would be a lot.

Sam: But also I could see that.

Bret: If you don't but it feels like a lot but this was like yeah this would be a place of the Surrey one of the film's where they spent a ridiculous amount of money for no reason.

Ash: Yeah it is possible.

Pat: This is the fourth one the other three made all the money's.

Sam: Yeah I could see it.

Bret: Yeah I mean I think I was going to say 120.

Ash: Stick to your guns.

Sam: You're going to say what.

Bret: 120.

Bret: It feels like a lot but I think it this was like a Hollywood Like Money movie.

Sam: I'm going to say 91 million.

Ash: Google I'll say 80 million.

Ash: I think 90s.

Ash: Oh.

Pat: Niger you're doing well Brett you doing the estimated budget is 125 million dollars and.

Bret: Yo.

Sam: Why.

Pat: It's estimated that the rumor is at Schwarzenegger got 25 million of that.

Sam: Oh yeah.

Ash: Oh I didn't even think about the fact the cast the cast definitely added to the cost of this movie.

Bret: Yeah.

Bret: Yeah the big money.

Pat: What do the cost 125 million dollars Let's do let's just go to gross its US and Canada combined so gross US and Canada and gross worldwide.

Bret: Do you do both.

Sam: 330.

Sam: We're doing both.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Domestic.

Pat: Other device.

Bret: Our worldwide.

Nika: 263 domestic.

Sam: Our worldwide.

Nika: 485 worldwide.

Sam: Escape.

Ash: Nice dresses yeah I would say like 250 domestic.

Ash: 400 worldwide.

Ash: Just $400 though noticing.

Nika: Adjust.

Ash: Double double.

Bret: Double double double double 240 480.

Pat: Do alligators movie alot more credit it US and Canada 107 million so didn't make its money back domestically and in 238 worldwide.

Ash: Ouch.

Bret: Oh goodness so not Double-Double.

Ash: But they kept going huh.

Nika: Damn.

Sam: What is the nipples fault cut right through their box office.

Bret: My son saying is I think.

Ash: Cut the glass right through.

Bret: That's what I'm remembering about this movie is I mean I even it might just be a movie that was too like to gay for the 90s and like a super awesome Liga today.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: Ariana Grande predictions.

Bret: That's my thought about this and then and that's that's what I'm opening with as my prediction for this film is I'm going to love it today.

Sam: Yeah let's do it I'm going to come out of the gate and say this is not a good movie this is going to be a bad movie but an awesomely bad movie like I'm going to love watching this bad movie and young me love this movie and I think adult me will love this movie for completely different reasons.

Nika: I completely that is a very good summary of what I was also thinking and I feel like I feel like the the the reason that the pretty ladies the pretty man alright that reason is staying 100ut at some point I'm probably going to say are you in a way that they do something that's completely unbelievable and wild but I'm going to lose my shirt over it and I'm going to love it in the end.

Bret: Do you have a specific something in mind that's unbelievable wild cuz I can think of like three off the top of my head.

Pat: I got her saying yeah.

Ash: Yeah.

Nika: It's going to be something that isn't like his wife frozen in ice it's like something that they could make believable but yet they did something so Fantastical to make that thing unbelievable like instead of opening a jar they do like you know something like a rock hits and there's like all of these different things I don't know you'll see it when you know you'll know it when you see it.

Pat: That was completely unnecessary.

Bret: A Wallace and Gromit asked series of Contraptions to make your toast.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah I equally think this is going to be banana pancakes or sure I feel like I remember this movie Banana Pancakes I remember Arnold Schwarzenegger is cost you.

Ash: Just by itself is Banana Pancakes it's like ridiculous.

Bret: What about his face paint that's what I remember.

Sam: What what about his face paint that's what I remember.

Bret: I do.

Sam: I do yeah yeah.

Ash: Yes yeah the whole thing but I do remember really loving Yuma Thurman and this movie so I am very excited I kind of agree with Sam that I don't think it's a good movie but I think it's going to be super fun to watch for sure.

Sam: Yep.

Bret: I mean we try to watch one Arnold movie every year try to time it out with with thanks gackt Thanksgiving if we can and I think I also don't think this is going to be very action movie to be honest I think I can remember like one action scene.

Nika: Oh wow.

Sam: I weirdly remember most of the action coming out of Uma Thurman.

Bret: There's I think there's something.

Ash: And a little bit from Arnold's but like it's mostly I feel like I remember it's mostly just him punching things but not really like.

Pat: Zeiss gun.

Sam: That counts yeah that counts yeah that's what I thought was like freezegun yes yes.

Nika: Ice guns.

Bret: I think I think Arnold does guns in this movie Ice guns I know Robin does something absolutely stupid with the motorcycle and I can't remember that was in this movie or in the previous one.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Bret: That might be the Wild Thing.

Nika: That might be the thing he could have done a normal way but instead he did it the other way.

Ash: I could have just parked the bike but instead.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: But for sure I was going to be a fantastic time I don't see how I would dislike this cuz I mean Arnold has 27 puns in this pack how many minutes is he on screen like how many puns a minute are we getting from Arnold here.

Ash: Every time he's on screen there's a pun.

Pat: I think it's going to be I think the ratio the pundit minute ratio of Argos great times going to be pretty rich going to be pretty yeah. Body like to do this the tagline.

Sam: Who who.

Nika: I don't even fit with the theme of this very gay movie.

Pat: There's two databases variations in the same one it's strength now courage always family above all Batman and Robin!.

Ash: I mean above all you know.

Bret: There's a scene where I think Batman and Robin almost make out so.

Sam: Vaguely remember that.

Pat: You just dreamed that.

Nika: 10th glances.

Bret: Family above all not like I sorry.

Ash: That was my joke thanks.

Pat: You're the one who's a note listen Heroes. Villains. Triple threat.

Bret: Triple fat.

Ash: What is only two things though that a triple triple threat.

Nika: Oh yeah Bane is a big hembo.

Pat: Is it cuz there's three and three there's Batman Robin and Batgirl and then there's mr. Freeze Poison Ivy and Bane the worst on screen.

Sam: Bane Bane is in this.

Bret: Pages in this ya sick pain very thick pain.

Sam: Okay alright.

Bret: Okay but like.

Pat: Okay it's a character they call Bain listen I'm going to Tamper down the comic book nerd inside who wants to come out and rage to have a character named vein in this movie also not my vein.

Ash: #not my babe.

Ash: The Deckard Cain boys.

Bret: Now the Tom Hardy Bane is also maligned but it's that voice that they've carried over to the Harley Quinn is just the best thing that's ever happened to Baden you know like the other Decker Bane.

Sam: Yes Deckard Bane.

Ash: Patrick Reed.

Sam: Yep.

Bret: But yeah this one this one it I forgot it was in it and I know we're watching it I've been thinking about it for an hour now and I forgot it was in it.

Sam: I am excited.

Bret: Biggest flexes.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Pat: Yeah I do my predictions agree with primitive hitting everyone decide I think this will be where I'll get it I think I'm going to enjoy watching it then we're all going enjoy our times watching it I think four is very different through the lens of 2021 as opposed to at the time I think the.

Nika: I can't wait to River poison ivy because I want her to take everyone down.

Sam: Yes.

Pat: Yeah I think we're going to definitely look at this from a different angle in our current occurrence Paradigm that we look at Society through and this year as opposed to 20 years ago.

Sam: Excellent poet.

Pat: Yeah that's watch this thing.

Ash: Hahaha.

Bret: All right well yeah let's pause the recording here and we're going to go and watch Batman and Robin and well you know maybe we'll have a case they can ask accident and watch the wrong movie and we'll see you when we get back.

Sam: What's the one with Arnold guys.

Pat: Arnold I don't know.

Sam: That's good I like it.

Bret: Done song.

Ash: Action Thanksgiving from.

Sam: Okay.

Ash: Yeah he tweeted that.

Bret: Showcase texted me in the middle of it and was like we're going to I'm going to do Batman and Robin like before for another pass in a week I cannot believe you're doing this at the same time and we had a very long very long chat Avea text about which Batman content was the horniest and I maintain that it is this movie by a long shot.

Nika: Oh my God.

Sam: I got it has to because I cannot imagine a Batman movie more horny than this one.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: I said the mr. Freeze's henchmen there costume was Uggs thigh high socks and a skull song find me a horny or hinge.

Nika: Everyone.

Pat: No this movie be Tails by miles to be fair in Batman Forever Nicole Kidman is doing some work in the horniness niyoshi like there's the bat signal just as some of them for a booty call like that's a whole thing she's like but she's kind of putting the whole hoernis game on her back for that movie and it's just this movie is like an ensemble of horniness.

Ash: On her back.

Sam: Choice.

Bret: A iPad word word choice by word choice.

Pat: Okay.

Nika: Drive a phallic-shaped rocket through.

Ash: I'm sorry.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: The rocket was a bit much.

Nika: I'm in little nail on the head there.

Pat: I mean this whole movie.

Sam: Yeah this this whole movie is cringe incarnate for sure.

Bret: This whole movie is cringe incarnate.

Ash: Yes.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: What's up you just drop that in front of any five-minute any part of this movie the blank was a bit much.

Bret: Basically.

Ash: I mean Bane is just a Mexican wrestler in this.

Ash: Oh okay.

Ash: Gotcha.

Pat: Well that mask is so like that the look of him is Canon like the like kind of the Luchador any is South American the way us.

Ash: Well then that makes sense.

Bret: Luchador Bane.

Ash: What was it that fries.

Sam: You mean he's not just like.

Bret: Was he smarter than Batman.

Pat: The reasons comic nerds got all mad about his cuz he supposed to actually be super-smart in the comics Bane does like smarter than Batman but he's gone.

Bret: Was he smarter than Batman in the Nolan ones.

Pat: I mean.

Nika: I feel like I'm car he plans.

Ash: He does sort he sorts Batman once or twice right.

Pat: He does they just take over all of Gotham.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: Yours.

Sam: Is in the most unrealistic scenario to ever grace this.

Sam: I want talk about it.

Bret: Yeah but he doesn't really like take over all of Gotham he kind of just like I have a ball and they were just like oh I guess Gotham's yours like in the most unrealistic scenario to ever grace this the screens a man with a bomb gets the city for 6 months or whatever at anyway I want talk about it too much.

Ash: Okay but I have a question where they where they auctioning off women in this movie did that happen.

Pat: Yes Sam Sam literally.

Nika: Was it a date though or was it just cuz it seems a lot for a date.

Ash: Yeah it seems like a lot.

Sam: I think this was some Jeffrey Epstein bulshit happening in here that was a.

Bret: It was a gross.

Bret: Every Woman.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: It was.

Sam: It was a gross situation every woman was a sex object it was very frustrating.

Pat: We need to have a woman as prize t-shirt case we need a variation of a poison ivy themed woman as fries variation of the shirt.

Sam: Yes.

Sam: Yeah that was.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: Yeah that was a bit much saying that this movie was a f****** bit much guys.

Ash: So was all of the dialogue.

Pat: Yeah.

Nika: It's almost like an amusement park got a budget for a movie and they said go wild.

Bret: Absolutely.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: I was thinking that I was like.

Ash: Yeah I mean the visuals are stunning and like a really fun for sure like the style is really fun cheesy for sure but like the dialogue in the acting and some of the situations like I was like well I guess this feels like the most true to the TV show movie.

Sam: I was thinking that I was like gosh like everybody like the Tim Burton one cuz it was kind of dark you know and how did we go from there to here and then to the Christopher Nolan ones like wow that's a big range.

Bret: It's that thing that I call is the post Nolan effect it's before the Nolan Batman serious meant something else.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: There was like a quote from Schumacher about how he regrets caving to the studio cuz it just were endlessly putting pressure on him to make the movie more and more Toyota basically like sell toys make it to Victoria commercial and he gave in to pressure and let them kind of.

Pat: When she was getting dressed.

Nika: What is that.

Pat: Oh yeah yeah.

Sam: And then.

Ash: Is that's why we have the chances my ass shots in the very beginning of Batman and no of Batman and Robin in the very beginning that it's like a close-up on their butt in the suit and then like a shot of their tits and everything.

Nika: Doing hers.

Pat: I think they just did that so they could get away with Batgirl suit up Montage at the end which was really egregious.

Nika: What is her outfit.

Bret: That was so awful like she's underage.

Sam: Yeah that was so awful I'm like she's underage.

Nika: No.

Pat: I mean your uncle made that for her here like Father Figure and he's like I'm going to give her nose in this combat suit.

Bret: Wait yeah.

Bret: Why.

Sam: I mean at least you can kick somebody and kill them with a stiletto like when I pick out my outfits I love to have a solid ring around each breast that you know that's what makes me feel comfortable who know why.

Sam: Did it.

Ash: She even had the nipples on the pursuit to which was it was like very subtle.

Nika: It was like very yeah.

Nika: Alfred's horny.

Ash: Alfred was just really.

Sam: Opor sexually repressed Alfred.

Bret: I just I guess I hadn't thought about that like the Alfred made everyone's costumes really horny and they were just like.

Ash: Just alone in this house all day.

Ash: Like this he having like sex parties while they're gone it's like f******.

Sam: Lllll.

Nika: You absolutely know he is.

Bret: They come back they drive the bat car the Batmobile back into the cave and like there's lasers up and I like Alfred you'd been decorating.

Nika: What.

Ash: It's like Eyes Wide Shut in there why do they just have like a lasers pointing like anywhere in the Batcave like.

Nika: Ascetic.

Ash: Weight.

Nika: Oh.

Pat: Sensors for intruders to the alarms that are going off.

Ash: Oh okay yeah.

Bret: It's the right the Rave cave.

Pat: I'm being so generous.

Nika: So then this is an Alford could pop up and if.

Ash: Oh man.

Sam: Okay so the city sets were yes.

Sam: Yeah.

Sam: Sometimes Thursday but yeah they were toys.

Bret: So but okay so the city sets were toys like I I was like remember my prediction was like I remember it looking a lot like just toys and it was it was a miniature and the cars they didn't CG the cars in they were toy cars.

Ash: Well.

Pat: Okay with that.

Sam: I like Poison Ivy's lair.

Pat: I love layers I'll I love those up I like the timepieces I love layers of layers my favorite thing to do.

Sam: Oh yeah.

Ash: Ogres are like onions.

Nika: Onions hurt tummies.

Ash: Everybody loves a parfait.

Ash: Yes.

Pat: No practice because I talk like this thing I love I love a good steamed gang array of like a bunch of gangs of different themes and their coordination their outfits love that.

Bret: Are you talking about the.

Sam: Are you talking about the.

Ash: The ones that look like they belong to in Vegas.

Bret: Which gangs like the gang the biker gangs or the henchmen because.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Bret: Yeah.

Nika: Those were so cool.

Pat: Yeah at the at the motorcycle like yeah what is like this like the foppish guys and the Clockwork Orange guys and the punk Motors about Hawkeyes and there was like the neon skull guys over in the bathhouse those risers freaky.

Sam: Everybody's.

Pat: I like that I kind of want.

Bret: Every everybody's costumes were cooler than the actual henchman's.

Pat: Like I would do the neon skull guy for like Halloween or something that like legitimately terrifying.

Ash: Yeah that's what I'm saying they look like they look like they belong in the Blue Man Group or something.

Sam: That's what I said.

Ash: Nice.

Sam: Blue Man Group is what I said when I watched it we're totally on the same page.

Ash: We had to go to the audition.

Pat: Wasn't like.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: Or like.

Nika: The reason why they left so quickly was they had an audition I was just going to say one thing that we kind of talked about before was like the action in the movie and you guys were very much correct there was very little action in the movie the fight scenes were not very choreographed or intricate or anything it was just like one punch and there or not even a punch like you throw a chain at someone and they're out for the count.

Ash: Are the fries you just like freeze them.

Nika: Yes.

Bret: Notably of five minutes of ice skating around the museum at the beginning of the movie where no one was fighting at all.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: Give Arnold.

Ash: Okay that was like the worst seen they like started playing hockey what the f*** was even going on if it like Disney on Ice that then turn into the Mighty Ducks or some b******* what the f***.

Ash: Hahaha.

Bret: Okay let me let me paint a picture for you here.

Pat: They were keeping away the diamond it may total perfect sense and install retractable skates in their suits okay it makes sense.

Nika: We have you have to be ready for anybody.

Bret: Before that day all of the mr. Freeze henchmen just thought they were hanging out at a cool ice layer he hadn't killed anyone it was just like they bust in and they were showed up ready to just like in a crash a party and steal a diamond like haha pranks hijinks and starts killing people like what just happened but like that's what that's where that scene was was they weren't there to fight they were just there.

Nika: They were there to do the good old 80's villains yeah.

Ash: Yeah with okay so did I miss it but like how and why does he even have minions it was just like cute.

Pat: You can ask that are like every villain and I want it I do want to do it's kind of been done eventually one day I want to do some kind of content that has a deep dive on henchman in Binion's cuz yes I'm with you as like where do they come from.

Ash: Pat I will introduce you to venture brothers that has already done this thing.

Pat: I watched I watched it I mean but they have a whole thing I've seen.

Pat: No.

Bret: I don't think that I don't think Venture Brothers is the is the answer I'm looking for their I want like the yeah I want the nitty-gritty like okay you're doing real evil what's this about.

Sam: Job that doesn't require fire.

Pat: I want like I want like I want like a book or show or comic about like a henchman placement agency and it's like they're going to like what they're seeing what their aesthetic do I hate I run hot I don't like cold weather no I couldn't do that one no.

Bret: It's the only job that doesn't require five years of experience and a bachelor's degree.

Ash: Yeah I love that.

Ash: But like seriously it was okay but blank they explain how poison ivy got her henchman and four fries it was just like all sudden he's like flu-like people just jump out of the rafters for some reason.

Pat: He's probably that mean paying them I don't know obviously guys money to build his Contraptions successful doctor researcher guy already stole it with all the diamonds.

Nika: Maybe they were his lab assistants or something.

Nika: As long as you wear a skull song.

Ash: And he said you know what casual Fridays are back forever.

Bret: There is lab assistants and it's just like so how many of your co-workers would you go commit crimes to find the cure for their disease.

Sam: That's what we're looking at here.

Bret: That's that's that's what we're looking at here.

Ash: This movie has no plot holes whatsoever for sure.

Bret: None are tight.

Sam: I mean you do have to have a plot to have potholes so.

Pat: Hey there's a plot.

Nika: Oh yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: The whole yeah it's it's a poison ivy is the hero and wants to save the Earth from us trash mammals that are try to destroy it.

Bret: Also mr.

Sam: Also mr. Freeze is trying to stop global warming.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: And he's trying to work outside of our broken Healthcare System to save his wife.

Sam: Yeah exactly.

Nika: Wow.

Pat: Beginning rubber this is this is different time I feel like a perspective is all shifted as our generation has grown up from what we were fed his children to Dave AC Supply to say this is a guy who's trying to save his wife and he was trying to save the the climate they're the bad guys let's root for the trust fund billionaire kid.

Nika: Yeah.

Sam: They literally have a moment where they laugh at Poison Ivy when she's like we got a protector Rivers we got a protector Forester like like.

Bret: People need refrigerators.

Sam: Yeah.

Nika: We're throwing a Gala at the Botanical Garden.

Ash: We don't care about nature.

Ash: But we made that clear.

Sam: Okay alright in the defense.

Ash: Think carefully about what you're going to say okay continue.

Sam: She's teasing you.

Ash: I was it was drink.

Sam: Olive olive.

Bret: All of all of the iterations of the Batman Bruce Wayne's kind of like shity.

Bret: Bright like he's supposed to be like I'm the billionaire like watch me be a billionaire dick and like then Batman's like secretly I'm Batman but no one would suspect that I do good things.

Ash: Is he supposed to be I don't think he's a dick though Bruce Wayne.

Bret: The movies yeah sorry that.

Pat: Not not a definite do that in the the bail 12 Christian Bale like they they play that up we're like he puts a hit you I mean he's putting on this Persona of being just like a vapid billionaire playboy so I cover his tracks as much.

Pat: With they lean into Bruce Wayne is kind of weird in these movies.

Nika: Yeah like whenever they're at the the.

Bret: Samantha.

Sam: Would you say a little queer in these movies.

Ash: Whoa okay.

Sam: Are you getting married.

Bret: They like are you getting married to me like marriage.

Pat: Was it isn't the phrase confirmed Bachelor like code for crazy.

Pat: In the best way.

Nika: Yeah.

Bret: So I was reading up a little bit on this cuz apparently when this came out this was derided as way to K but it like a bad way and there's a whole interview with Joel Schumacher that was like you know people wouldn't have said this about my movie if I wasn't gay and while that is sad I totally said that about his movie without knowing he was gay it was a very very very gay movie but I just in the best in the best way.

Pat: They look great everyone looks.

Nika: Amazing.

Bret: Horny for all characters.

Nika: It was like watching choreographed wrestling movie with big-budget that's what Batman and Robin.

Ash: Yes yes absolutely.

Nika: Oh wow.

Bret: No.

Nika: That's really sad.

Ash: Wait Avea bummer Pat.

Pat: It's trivia the people need to know the facts.

Sam: The future it's been a long time since.

Ash: But going back to Brett's thing though I will say that somebody on Twitter was even said that this movie was his gay awake.

Pat: Josh that was Josh.

Ash: Bagel.

Ash: Oh okay.

Sam: Josh that's from the DND podcast.

Sam: Yes.

Pat: Invert and Naruto various Kuechly he's a he's a Geekly entity.

Ash: Gotcha well there you go. Or.

Sam: A Geekly entities.

Bret: A Geekly entity.

Pat: Unknown unknown entity among the Geekly verse.

Pat: Call Josh.

Sam: Also did we not know we did that with Justin as they wasn't he on our podcast but Justin was on her podcast.

Pat: Do Joshua's weeds for 3 Ninjas.

Bret: Gas.

Sam: 3 Ninja k.

Pat: Yeah but.

Ash: Welcome to the Josh cast.

Bret: Jaws cast.

Pat: Okay you but.

Nika: We do love each other.

Sam: Something something.

Ash: Yes.

Bret: Something something but see I don't know Joshua appreciate that.

Pat: Hey the race the motorcycle race so.

Pat: I love a whole I love it I love the whole conceit like Fast and Furious underground racist and they're still cool and so many people comment and these people are celebrities.

Ash: Oh yeah cuz they're at the beginning or the end that that's it.

Pat: Yeah and it's like later if you know if you did it now he's like we stood up his little cameras with his drones like if I did that because they're drones following the racers anyway they're racing and then there's like the Shady guy who's like I'm going to cheat I got people somewhere I'm going to cheat and it's like yeah that's a good plan bro like totally get it like this is you know you're trying to get money you don't care if up the rules but what is his plan exactly one they swing out on Ziplines and drop Molotov cocktails in front of him though too cuz he was there.

Pat: We just stops and they go through the fire and they fall over but the bridge is out.

Pat: Where was the race going.

Ash: Yeah I don't know.

Bret: That's a good question maybe there is like a turn.

Ash: The only thing I can assume is they also blew out the bridge but that's a lot of work just to win a race.

Pat: But then how would he win the race if he has to cross the bridge.

Ash: Because nobody's watching Pat and he's the only one that comes back.

Pat: So you just going to go around another way.

Nika: So he circles around becomes through the.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: If they made the bridge go out yes.

Ash: Yeah yeah exactly but I don't know why you need the fire then though cuz they could have just driven off the bridge and yeah.

Ash: Oh okay.

Bret: Will you like he wouldn't realize that the bridge was out if the fool cuz of the far wall of fire you like oh no fire.

Nika: Maybe the fire was supposed to be the end.

Nika: They just went through it.

Sam: I thought that.

Nika: Yeah flames.

Ash: No maybe so technically they one then cuz they cross the fire line.

Pat: Closest to the edge.

Sam: But you can't if you're dead you can't collect your winnings.

Pat: Yeah.

Ash: You mean.

Sam: Maybe that was their plan all along.

Bret: Although okay but also we saw we saw a whole Fleet of vehicles drive up the arm of a statue and catch Eric to the top of a building so maybe the bridge was out and that was part of the ride like you drop you drive off the bridge and land on something else you know.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: Those are like superhero cars is like mr. Freeze car in the Batmobile okay those are not.

Ash: You mean.

Bret: She was driving the Bat Bike.

Nika: Are you saying that cars like in Fast & Furious or not superhero cars.

Pat: Do they I mean at this point they are yes I still got to catch up with you behind.

Nika: Okay you can't tell me that that race is not like Batman's Fast and Furious.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Oh no it's great.

Bret: Oh absolutely absolutely was.

Ash: But are you telling me that something in this movie doesn't make sense because I just can't accept that.

Pat: Know-it-all percantile makes them I'm not I'm not it all makes perfect sense it all makes perfect sense is the perfect movie.

Bret: Yeah.

Ash: I will say though we did predict that Houma Thurman would be amazing and she was amazing.

Sam: Yes.

Nika: Yeah she Carrie the movie.

Pat: Oh she's Bernardo phenomenal.

Ash: So good I think Arnold keeps calling him calling Bane mr. Pain but I also really enjoyed vein.

Bret: Spain was fun.

Bret: Mobetto Frankenstein vibe.

Ash: Yeah I love what he's putting down the bombs and he's like bomb.

Bret: Oh heck yeah.

Ash: Sure.

Pat: Alright Nika Island about to lie to you.

Nika: Okay.

Pat: I apologize in advance.

Pat: But so I'm going to say 3 facts about this movie.

Nika: Okay.

Pat: But one of them is not a fact one of those a dirty dirty lie.

Nika: Okay.

Pat: Jafar all going to guess which one is the LIE.

Pat: Alright.

Bret: Okay.

Bret: Really.

Sam: Really wait who is David Duchovny.

Bret: X-Files.

Nika: Yeah I would not hate that could he be Revisited now.

Bret: The truth is Batman.

Ash: Is there still time to make this happen.

Bret: Where is it Batman is out there.

Nika: Batman is out there.

Pat: Yeah I don't know his Bruce Wayne I think he could definitely make the Bruce Wayne like a really weird like do they're weird reclusive billionaire Bruce Wayne like he would be so Corky and just kind of.

Pat: Yeah little more detected eat.

Nika: Oh my God yes more text centered and less a DC or DJ or sorry a DC Iron Man.

Bret: Yeah yeah.

Pat: Yeah and like maybe a little more detective because they're doing it with the Aquino with Mulder.

Pat: Go back to like.

Ash: Yes.

Nika: Yeah are we making a gritty inspector go go gadget Inspector Gadget you like that's what we just said Wednesday.

Pat: This do that do that dmtnt up.

Bret: But like we're watching this and sandwiches like it would be the one that pointed out like the one detective moment where he was just like to know where I went to school on your shirt is all of the detecting in the whole movie.

Pat: Well.

Ash: Yeah.

Nika: Honestly I think that was probably the most omigosh complex dialogue besides any monologue that room with her Manhattan.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Pat: I respect there was a trivia thing about her how about like like she's no shame for this movie she loves like I love the movie it was so much fun I enjoyed every minute to let me Camp it up and just go wild and.

Nika: Yeah.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: I mean her costumes get better and better as the movie goes on its incredible.

Bret: She definitely seemed like the person having the most fun.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: Oh yeah and she's like this line is terrible but I'm going to live at the fuk up.

Sam: Yeah.

Nika: Yes she understood the assignment.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: She knew exactly what movie they were doing like she she knew what movie what's a Arnold to yes her and Arnold I would say very much did it was the heroes in this movie that were like but Chris O'Donnell's whining ass.

Ash: Oh my God he's the worst person in this movie so bad.

Ash: What's the other lie.

Pat: Yeah terrible says David Duchovny number to although considered a flop Batman and Robin was Warner Brothers highest grossing film both domestically and worldwide 497.

Sam: Hello.

Bret: 497 the what came out that year.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Okay I got them more.

Nika: 97 was a really good year for movies and I think I think that's the life I feel confident in saying that his tight and I don't know okay okay.

Sam: When did Harry Potter come out.

Pat: The first one.

Bret: Where did Harry Potter come out that's a good question I don't think we can do well at no Googling.

Ash: Oh shoot.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: I don't think we can Google that no Googling no Googling but I want to say like 99.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah.

Nika: I think Harry Potter was later yeah I think Harry Potter was later the books were still coming out in 97.

Bret: You can't Google to disprove his fax here.

Pat: Despite lack the lackluster commercial performance and Universal just like from critics Batman and Robin was still nominated for four Academy Awards.

Bret: 4share.

Ash: Oh my God that's are you serious.

Sam: There's so many Ward there so few words.

Bret: There's so many award there so many awards.

Nika: Yeah.

Sam: Also.

Bret: Best best rubber costumes.

Ash: That's true I mean Emily in Paris was rated for an award this year so I can't.

Nika: Best 40 lb cape.

Bret: Best best supporting actress.

Sam: Best effects.

Nika: Yeah I still think Alicia silverstone's bodysuit.

Ash: I think you're I think you're right Nika I think it's biggest number to ORS never 3.

Bret: I.

Pat: Take one.

Ash: Orix David Duchovny I mean.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: Yes.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: David Duchovny seems weird but it's a hard to believe that this was the most profitable movie given the budget game.

Sam: The budget game yeah but this is what happens when a professional writer does lion DB it's really flipping hard hat good job.

Pat: I mean if the covers Ally that'll be an interesting Poll for me to pull out and out the side that would be.

Sam: Sure I'm going to go number two.

Bret: FC.

Nika: I don't know I kind of felt like you had thought about it whenever we were talking things out so.

Sam: Alice duchovny's Ally you're a f******.

Bret: Now it's duchovny's Ally you're a f****** narcissist Pat.

Ash: Exactly that's what he think we would say.

Bret: I'm going to.

Sam: I'm going to I'm going to.

Ash: Two different you guys have to cover it I got three.

Bret: Alright.

Pat: Academy Awards.

Nika: Change it.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Oh.

Bret: Wow.

Bret: Dang.

Pat: It was a most profitable it was their most highest grossing film and David Duchovny was considered.

Ash: Rough year for them huh rough year.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: Okay so what's the context here.

Nika: Well yeah I was going to say cuz everyone else was putting out golden 97 in the Past come out in 97.

Bret: And impatso excited I do.

Pat: Come on the past Omega Man.

Nika: Are we going to do that one sometime.

Ash: We should.

Bret: I know the past is terrible.

Pat: No it's it's just going to be worthless have ambiguity I feel like in the show it's going to be you all hate it so much Nick Nick and I'll just watch it for something else you will hate it so much.

Nika: It's so good.

Bret: I've seen the past it everyone will hate it that we should do it though.

Ash: Yeah no it's better there's more to talk about if you hate it.

Pat: I mean do you like John Leguizamo being the most John Leguizamo.

Ash: Yes of course of course.

Sam: Oh okay so.

Bret: So okay so.

Pat: Do you like Steilacoom movie real Cody like a movie that was is John Leguizamo it basically they gave him a blank canvas and say just just Leguizamo all over this movie for 2 hours.

Sam: Praising.

Ash: Ono Ono.

Nika: Oh yeah.

Sam: Oh yeah.

Nika: That would have been Warner Brothers was it is at Universal.

Ash: Wait that came out the same year.

Nika: The Warner Brothers.

Sam: I think it was.

Pat: Metallica's 97 let's find out.

Pat: Unless.

Ash: Had this movie feels like it was made like a decade before that.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: You know what you know what is the budget for this movie made it a flop right like cuz the the thing I was reading was like Batman Forever they made on a shoestring budget.

Sam: Dude you know it.

Sam: Titanic.

Sam: The only movie that anyone 590.

Bret: Show the only movie that anyone's on 97 gotcha okay.

Ash: Okay that explains a lot.

Bret: But don't like.

Pat: Man back with Sony.

Pat: Yeah.

Pat: I mean I'll look I'll look up.

Bret: That's that's holy what it is cuz I was like it was like 250 worldwide worldwide's are usually like not even that high I feel like it's usually that you know that the movie cost like 40 million like a miraculous 120 you know but so I guess that just makes sense they just burned way too much cash making this thing and that's why it sucks and why the rest of them canceled.

Pat: Yeah all the stuff I mean if you watch men in Black.

Sam: Yes but it also.

Bret: Sorry I just needed to make that make sense in my head cuz I was like houses such a bad derided movie and yet the most profitable web.

Pat: This was this was this it's it's definitely the the the bloated cost because this was the ninth highest grossing film of the year.

Sam: What are you looking at my list is weird.

Pat: Taco the numbers top grossing movies in 97 I've got Men In Black Lost World Jurassic Park Liar Liar airforce1 Titanic Star Wars A New Hope full edition.

Pat: My Best Friend's Wedding face off Batman and Robin.

Nika: Tell me one movie on that list that was not a bob fire every single one.

Bret: Every single one.

Sam: Conair also came out that year.

Ash: Oh man so good.

Pat: Yacon are contact Hercules screen to McGuire.

Bret: Weber wow 97's a Goodyear.

Sam: Rubber mermaid made more than this.

Pat: Dot ac09.

Nika: 97 I have a held forever that 97 is the best year we p297 is humanity and it's all been downhill since.

Ash: Yes I agree.

Sam: We we say it's the year Jurassic Park came out which is 90.

Pat: Fifth Element.

Bret: That's very interesting for this show it's been 93.

Ash: Yeah we say 93 but we have said 97 before 2 he said 93 and 97 and I think that's both those years were good.

Ash: F*** f***.

Sam: Austin Powers was that your tooth.

Bret: Austin Powers okay that's what I was saying that rock the Rocket taking off was so Austin Powers.

Nika: Yes.

Nika: Oh yeah.

Sam: Yes it was.

Pat: And this year.

Ash: How to say I am disappointed though because I was expecting better ice puns and most the time they weren't even puns he was just saying something about ice.

Pat: They were there is some stretches.

Sam: Like today Hell Freezes Over.

Bret: That wasn't even a pun.

Ash: Sofia is like what.

Pat: Didn't like the dinosaurs one.

Bret: I think.

Ash: That's not a pug he's just saying that ice age that's not a pun.

Bret: The real ID and IMDb is your 27 puns Pat.

Nika: 27.

Ash: Yeah she did like two actual puns that's it.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Pat: What did they counted schettino he's like when he said chill three times in a row like that's three and like no it doesn't.

Ash: No.

Sam: You realize nobody was getting his joke.

Bret: Just like he realize nobody was getting his joke analogy.

Ash: Tiffany just kept saying it.

Bret: Iceman chill.

Pat: Jeremy I said chill you get it it's funny Roblox playing it.

Ash: I do think.

Ash: Just when Pat calls you though just provide.

Bret: I'm going to make that into a ringtone I'm going to release the pat when I explained it ringtone along with the episode.

Bret: The patmac.

Ash: And you have to do the big ass spider to like just make up Pat pack wait this can be the patreon content this is the Patriotic bonus content yes.

Pat: The songs which yourself suspended spiders liquor the link to that.

Nika: Oh okay.

Bret: Yes it is in it is in the Google drive folder you can share this the music folder from there with whoever you want.

Bret: Fat person.

Sam: Barbara.

Ash: But I think also if Batman and Robin and Batgirl or whatever her name is didn't win at the end of this movie Above This would just be like the prequel to Snowpiercer right like Snowpiercer is the next movie.

Bret: Don't get me started on Snowpiercer we got to watch it just so I can talk s*** on Snowpiercer.

Ash: Oh I would love to do that because I absolutely hate Snowpiercer and it makes no goddamn sense.

Pat: Stop it stop it.

Bret: But this isn't that kind of show this isn't that kind of show.

Sam: This isn't that kind of show this isn't that kind of show.

Ash: No f****** sense and everyone is dead at the end of that movie everyone is dead how they supposed to survive in the f****** snow there dead dead it's not a happy ending their f****** dead.

Ash: There you go that's my rant.

Pat: Maybe the movies like Pro classism it's saying like if you aren't content to stay in your place unit Dumas all to death is what it's saying.

Nika: Your dad.

Bret: Bro this movie was Pro classism.

Sam: Thanks for attending ashes TED Talk.

Ash: I just I hate that movie so much.

Ash: Thank you.

Bret: Nothing in Snowpiercer make sense in this essay I will.

Ash: I'm just happy there's someone else on this planet that agrees with me even if it is Brett.

Bret: Block got fired.

Sam: Real life.

Sam: That's the only way this works.

Bret: You know it's it's a battle shipping movie it's the it's not it's not far-fetched science that they're trying to throw over ahead it's obvious science that they're saying things that you know well in real life are different here that's the only way this works.

Ash: Yeah earache ear ache again.

Pat: I'm going to pull us back on course I'm like grab the wheel of shipping like spinner really hard and cuz I want to talk I wanted to spend a few moments on the dime.

Ash: Oh no we're on ice or spinning out.

Pat: The dynamic.

Sam: Are we talking about the Battle shipping in this movie.

Bret: Are we talkin about the battleship in this movie sorry go ahead pet.

Pat: But the dynamic of Ivy and freeze together is really interesting to me cuz like she is Jonesing for him like.

Ash: Is she.

Pat: She wants a piece of that icicle.

Nika: I think she just wants him as a vehicle for getting her plans done.

Ash: Yeah I agree.

Nika: Absolutely.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: Which is pissed off about so do you think she's only pissed the jealousy with her wife is not a romantic interest it's a this is going to just this is going to distract him yeah okay.

Ash: No not at all it's a controlling yeah it's controlling.

Bret: She needed to kill the wife so she could give him a raging snow now.

Ash: Everything is about getting that d.

Bret: I don't know I thought she was horndog and for.

Pat: I thought how I was took it is.

Sam: I don't know I thought she was horndog in for Arnold I mean mr. Freeze that's how it I've read to me but.

Pat: She's awesome.

Nika: If anything that would be like a unintended side-effect like if they happen to have a fling or something then whatever but I feel like she's definitely in it for business to get what she wants.

Bret: I feel like they really Rush that sequence.

Ash: She's like a means to an end type of person we're like she doesn't.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Like your wife is dead is like great now I can Fuck.

Pat: Yes but that sequence is good cuz then cheat sheet he really quickly goes to like and she's like it has to be you and me and you like yeah yes but I thought you were in morning bro okay.

Pat: Yeah.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Pat: She's just a superfan.

Nika: He also have the lady of Vivica a. Fox and his ice Hideout where she's like you know where in her sassy little outfit and everything and what is she doing there if he's not like she just hanging out everyday in the hopes that he will one day yeah.

Ash: She's a nice groupie.

Ash: Oh nice.

Sam: No.

Nika: Aqb and Ice Cube so bad.

Bret: Revision on the area earlier his his minions were just hanging out it was actually the thing that I've stumbled into where that was just their hangout they were the ice crew and he was just like.

Ash: Usher you got it yet.

Ash: He was our leader so I guess that makes it you now.

Bret: It's like a ridicules you keep what you kill.

Nika: Yeah the power vacuum for local gangs is really strong so the person who killed this immediately gets sucked in his ruler.

Ash: Again like The Santa Clause.

Bret: Goodness.

Nika: Yeah.

Sam: Antelope.

Pat: That's interesting cuz I was thought you wasn't doing but yep I mean sex with him would be terrible.

Sam: You.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: I mean she just she seems like she's into everyone right like I don't think there's like any one person she specifically into.

Sam: She does.

Pat: No I don't think so.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: I feel like everyone else was it's a means to an end I'm using my sex appeal in my pheromones to get what I want felt like moments where she legitimately saw like an equal that she could like partner yes.

Ash: Just because you're raising your hand for yes.

Ash: Why thank you.

Sam: CI.

Bret: Ice.

Nika: Okay can I say it's a weird thing to do but so I'm thinking about it this is why I potentially think you are getting that reception but I think we are right she does that because earlier she blows the pheromones on them and she says it doesn't work on me I'm cold so she knows that the pheromones won't work so she has to use actual charm so she has to like make him think that there is a romantic link where's everyone else you just like blows a little pheromones on them and they work so still think she's using them but I could see that being.

Bret: Opposite.

Nika: Oh.

Sam: I saw that scene like the opposite of like she tries to woo him I'd he's too strong for her powers and that's attractive to her like Pat said like their equals.

Nika: Gotcha.

Sam: So that's what attracts her to mr. Freeze.

Pat: He accidentally nectar.

Sam: No bad.

Bret: The I-10 I totally get where you're coming from but I feel like there were several sequences in this movie and shot that made it very clear including poison ivy Zone dialogue that she was only horny for the plants.

Pat: Okay.

Ash: Yes I agree absolutely.

Ash: Yeah I'd like her.

Ash: And she.

Ash: Totally unlike.

Bret: Is that people were gross to her and she was using them and she was like trying to lick the plants and like it was either the whole thing there I don't see her try to lick no mr. Freeze no no Tasty Freeze over there sorry.

Pat: Nihilism.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: Motivation like she's the one that has actual motivation for this plan of hey let's like kill everyone on the planet and then it's just you and me and he really doesn't have any real motivation to kill everyone on the planet you know like he really turned on that quick but also I 100-percent think that like once they kill everyone on the planet she's like I don't need you anymore and kills him.

Bret: That is what I saw happening.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: In exchange for her plans but she tried to make out with in front of him.

Sam: Alright you've convinced me.

Bret: Look at this new plant it's alive and like I said like a lick it and it's like okay I see where you're going with this.

Sam: Also I could see.

Pat: But embracing the world.

Sam: Yeah I was going to say I could see her killing his wife to give mr. Freeze motivation to kill Batman which is part of her goal so.

Sam: I see that.

Ash: Yeah exactly so do you think she's like Evil Dead 2 Eden over there with the plant that what you're saying.

Pat: Oh my God ass.

Pat: Dammit.

Sam: Are we there's definitely there's nothing.

Bret: Are we there's definitely there's definitely tentacles in that future.

Sam: Dark.

Pat: I had a.

Bret: Whitefox are vines vines.

Sam: Patsy what you're going to say don't let them derail.

Bret: Which she was literally inside.

Ash: Yeah.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: I didn't you know.

Pat: I had a comment while I remember the comment was going to say that was very witty and insightful I'm sure why did her big like lotus flower Throne which subtle much on the why did why did it like.

Sam: It doesn't make any sense.

Ash: You mean something didn't make any sense in this movie.

Pat: Sensor weakness that she wasn't winning the fight stop it asked so we surveyed.

Nika: Maybe and it just ate.

Pat: Like Bobby a bi-week knock it off.

Ash: It's like the feed me Seymour Audrey 2.

Nika: Cast.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: I know that we're making fun of how much a movie doesn't make sense but I feel like that was the only time I was really like that didn't make sense about that one thing.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: Oh my God yes I forgot about that thank you.

Pat: Oh I forgot all my Silver Surfer ring from low orbit.

Nika: Yeah well and whenever they were like wakeboarding down at the beginning that didn't make any sense.

Ash: Cowabunga mean.

Nika: Oh my God yeah.

Sam: Wakeboarding through the sky.

Pat: If I wanted to try to get rich and go if I want to get rich in this Gotham I would open up a neon paint shop for your gang weapon chain what things sure got it for your face God that over here but don't worry your clothes down bad house got got that kind of paint over here don't worry neon paint I'll be a billionaire overnight.

Bret: There was a lot of neon in that town.

Bret: Absolutely.

Ash: We did say Commissioner Gordon found it in the budget right.

Sam: Dude was that just like the worst casting for Commissioner Gordon that has ever been.

Pat: I mean he's all four of them.

Sam: Is he.

Ash: Totally yes he's like nothing though.

Pat: He's the one in all four of them saying it's the same actor.

Sam: Yeah unmemorable and boring.

Ash: But you're still right yeah totally.

Pat: I can see him by that point.

Nika: I guess it makes sense.

Sam: You suck I hope you're listening no he doesn't.

Pat: I'm sure he's that I'm pretty sure he's dead.

Bret: Yeah yeah dude you suck I hope you're listening.

Ash: He's super dad Super Dad.

Nika: He plays a great nondescript.

Ash: Oh man.

Pat: I can see.

Sam: It's just clear that he didn't read the comics enough that I've read the comics but it just.

Pat: Do you remember not liking you I thought you was fine I feel great cuz we did the first Batman for this show it's been awhile but I forgot you was fine and that.

Sam: I completely don't remember him.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: The problem is is like no it's not necessarily like the actors fault I feel like it's just like they're like oh no he's just a generic cop and they like didn't give him anything to work with and they just casted for generic cop that you would see and so it's terrible.

Bret: Once again where the Harley Quinn show has greatly improved a character Commissioner Gordon and Harley Quinn is the best Commissioner Gordon.

Bret: I'm a damn good cop.

Ash: That's true.

Sam: Yeah and that's saying something cuz Gary Oldman is a great Commissioner Gordon Gordon I kept watching this and just like wishing I was watching Harley Quinn instead because Harley Quinn is such a good Batman adaptation and it really.

Sam: A bridges that gap between camp.

Sam: And Sirius and yeah.

Bret: I mean if you like beIN they really did Bane dirty and Harley Quinn but other than that.

Ash: Hahaha more than they did this.

Ash: Oh.

Bret: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: They do but I feel like I would actually doesn't bother me but cuz I feel like it's really self-aware but like we're taking his character that is canonically like literally the smartest and strongest of all of Batman's villains and making him like the joke of all the other.

Ash: Spoilers.

Ash: I'm just kidding.

Pat: Like 8 a. M. 11 it's like the first episode.

Bret: It's a really want his coffee cup so that says coffee is my Reckoning.

Pat: Yes yes but I'll find that for both of us.

Bret: I thought that's my that's my Elfster for the date for the holiday gift exchange.

Ash: It's a thing it's a thing I Googled it.

Pat: What do you think.

Pat: Alicia Silverstone Vine.

Nika: She was fine she did a great job she definitely I think played that role of what a feminist in 1997 is supposed to look like.

Bret: It's very different from today's feminist.

Nika: I feel like she was very sluggish Amy to poison ivy.

Bret: Yeah.

Pat: Yeah.

Ash: She was.

Nika: But yeah she was she was fine I like Alicia Silverstone so.

Bret: In a world with onlyfans Batgirl is problematic.

Sam: Yeah also just clearly written by a man.

Nika: Yeah.

Pat: Yes.

Sam: How dare you be sexy and comfortable with your sexuality you give the rest of us women a bad name.

Ash: Hahaha.

Bret: I have a computer science degree.

Nika: I ride motorcycles like everything was just she was like a not like other girls.

Pat: Yes she has very much I said not like other girls.

Sam: Exactly but I'm a good girl cuz I pronounced everything feminine.

Sam: Except for my costume that accentuates my breasts for the male gaze.

Sam: It's so annoying.

Ash: Oh totally.

Pat: Different shade to of like the black or it's like it's like a lighters but again just really how Uma Thurman poison ivy with the best character in this movie is even though she try to take over the world and kill all of humanity she still values and now against the pheromones make it a little tricky right cuz you're intoxicated people kissing them.

Ash: That's true.

Pat: Justice grab people kiss people at imma just put her lips on there isn't kill them but she's always like Kiss Me you kiss me like and then.

Sam: But it's not.

Nika: Yeah.

Sam: It's not legal consent if you're.

Ash: It's so weird.

Pat: She still valuing cinfed she's like with Roxie Clinic it's not it's not if it's I get it it's under the influence of the pheromones it's not it's still is but she literally I always remember is being weird that she couldn't as soon as Robin pulls out like why would you pull that off you pulled off the wax lipids.

Nika: She could just kiss him again.

Bret: So okay so if you want to get into the fantasy nitty-gritty of of her powers or the pheromone powers.

Bret: It seems like every time somebody felt like they were losing their own will they snapped out of the thing so I think that's probably where the consent thing comes in cuz she was just like I'm attacking you with kisses people might be like hold on wait cuz like nobody working like they were just like I'm into it you know.

Pat: What day though.

Ash: So it's like how real pheromones were.

Bret: I'm trying to make it make sense I don't know.

Sam: Okay.

Sam: But I liked it is commentary.

Ash: I was a joke I wasn't trying to be okay.

Ash: Oh my God it was so long.

Pat: I mean the movie could have been over in half the time at the auction thing cuz she literally probably could have just she couldn't think she could have just like.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: Okay.

Pat: Little smoocher Batman Robin in Lake smoochy-smoochy game over like that.

Sam: I would love to see that version of the movie.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Accumulator why not kill him now.

Bret: But also even before that in the opening scene mr. Freeze accumulator why not kill him now you have a gun.

Nika: Wait save us the time.

Ash: Because what there's more time it movie.

Sam: Because they really wanted to come back and finish their game of ice hockey.

Pat: He enjoys the gamesmanship of it again I like Billings at like that know they're villains would like that they're villains and have fun doing it and that was free.

Pat: Rochelle Rochelle.

Bret: Speaking of things that could have been over in half the time we should we should we move into trivia.

Pat: Nope just do it.

Bret: Alright this this is final thoughts no theme song.

Bret: You're looking at me should I go first I'll go first.

Ash: You go first.

Sam: Buzz.

Sam: Cut it out.

Sam: It's just it's it's.

Bret: This movie was awesome I know I don't even need to I don't even need to put it out there as like a big flip thing where I say one thing and then later I make it totally different no not today I enjoyed watching every second of this movie and I would watch it again right now because it's so f****** dumb and I love it it's just it's it's.

Sam: Ridiculous and feel like it's in the best possible.

Sam: Design.

Sam: / Metropolis I don't know let's go.

Sam: Batman there was a shot.

Sam: Ice rink fight.

Sam: Remember.

Sam: And like.

Sam: Voices the choices they may.

Sam: Ya know it sucks terrible movie.

Ash: Alright.

Bret: Ridiculous like it's in the best possible way the environment set design was bonkers the neon / Metropolis I don't know what's going on there but I like watching it on screen Batman there was a shot in the opening the ice rink fight where Robin jumped off of somebody remember but the hot was just him flying across the entire Museum ass first at the camera like that was like 2 minutes into the film and from that point on I was like busting up laughing just like the choices choices they made shooting this thing ya know it sucks and I will watch it anytime that's my review.

Sam: Yeah I'll pay you back I think this definitely falls in the category of love to hate it's super fun and the best way I can sum up this movie is Batman on Ice the movie.

Ash: Oh my God yes.

Sam: It yeah it is.

Bret: You said Batman on ice and I was like this feels like a Batman fan film.

Ash: Yes absolutely.

Bret: Head.

Sam: It had no flipping clue what Batman was and it didn't matter because this exists in its own universe and it's hilarious and just a joy to watch is it good no no it's not good is it entertaining for all the wrong reasons but yes it is very entertaining that's it. I mean I don't know what else to say.

Bret: I can see how if you were a toxic straight you might not enjoy this film that's the crowd that this is not four and there are a lot of those in the 90s but I feel like today's world everyone I know would at least enjoy watching this with a friend.

Sam: Yeah I think the only thing that would have made this even better is if it had.

Sam: Like we talked about a really iconic song with it that we could just be like jamming to right now.

Bret: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah that is a bummer I didn't have.

Pat: I definitely kiss Marrazzo's I.

Sam: Playing in my head right now.

Nika: What if we just made that The Unofficial song for Batman and Robin.

Pat: Yeah cuz it's a flower I know.

Nika: Yeah.

Ash: Oh I just got that Rose and that she's poison ivy to goddamn it's so good why.

Pat: So much of these movies are wire crossed it's like.

Bret: That's what I thought when I was a kid.

Sam: That's what I thought when I was a kid it made sense.

Ash: Wow.

Nika: I definitely feel like this movie held up I didn't love it in the same way I loved it whenever I was younger but I love it in a completely different way that was I don't know it feels like a better love and more appreciative love of the silly and the weird and the over-the-top whereas before I might have thought that was too much now I'm like bring it on it's also good only thing I would love to change the dialogue writing was not great but maybe.

Pat: Are you telling you the credit card scene in right.

Bret: That credit card thing was so funny.

Bret: What about the crops.

Sam: What about the crotch saw.

Nika: Oh for sure you got to have product placement never leave the cave without it.

Sam: That's got to stay to.

Bret: What's a crotch saw.

Bret: Oh my God yes.

Sam: What is Tangled Up In This Vice.

Pat: Yeah I would like.

Nika: It's rolling around.

Sam: So good so good.

Nika: Yeah I think great movie everyone should be made to watch it.

Ash: Is my turn.

Bret: Yes take away.

Ash: Okay yeah I noticed and pretty terrible.

Pat: I dare you.

Ash: But like.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Love the cost super fun like style and aesthetic but like like if you had told me that this was a script from the original 19 like 50s Batman show I would have believed you because the writing is so bad and so like like just you know people saying s*** the people wouldn't really say but anyway.

Bret: Clooney had some horrible line reads to man.

Ash: Just a horror yeah everyone's like acting is like really really bad except for Uma Thurman and like just terrible like Robin is just awful the entire time.

Ash: God there's just the everyone liner in this movie is just cringe-worthy they're all so bad but but yeah I mean it was a fun watch I will not be watching it again but I'm glad that I relived it because honestly I just want to be poison ivy for Halloween now that's what I got out of this movie.

Nika: Oh my gosh.

Sam: You got the red hair you could do it.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: Cool skulls.

Ash: I know.

Ash: I'm going to have to is it on Netflix.

Sam: Now you you have to watch Harley Quinn you have you have to HBO.

Bret: It's at atria.

Nika: HBO yeah.

Ash: HBO okay.

Pat: HBO HBO is like has gotten like all DC stuff.

Ash: Right.

Pat: Sister counter to Disney's Marvel.

Ash: Jose bought they bought them right there was an AT&T that's awesome.

Pat: I don't know.

Bret: I think HBO is Time Warner company now.

Pat: Israel's owned by AT&T that are trying to sell them.

Pat: But welcome to the media business talk.

Ash: Okay yeah yeah cuz AT&T bought the DC streaming thing yeah.

Bret: There are only three companies in the world.

Ash: We did it.

Pat: Yeah the Outlaw Run it out cuz I didn't do mine. It's real simple I'm in the sand brittanicca Camp technically not a good movie for the f*** that word means but fun to watch really enjoyable. Look at Great Moments enjoyed my time watching it immensely I'm probably going to go watch Batman Forever.

Pat: I'm definitely the same Kiss From A Rose as soon as we stop recording for.

Pat: Batman Forever Addison imagine that the ease and forever threes.

Bret: Really.

Ash: Oh I was totally wondering thank you.

Pat: The race MC yes.

Nika: Quick note in case anyone was wondering yes that was Coolio who was the street gang or straight racer head yeah yeah.

Ash: Thank you.

Pat: Thank you so so much seriously thank you I hope I hope you had fun I had fun.

Nika: Oh my God thank you yes.

Pat: White can you tell the people.

Ash: Yeah it was super fun.

Nika: I'm glad I could share this with you.

Pat: What what would you like Taylor honest as far as anything going to plug any social media shows anything.

Nika: You can find me regularly on greetings Adventures that's on Twitter at DND podcast we record every week release episodes every week and then I am personally on all social media platforms at Nika underscore Howard except for Instagram that's the Nika Howard but I have little link you can follow the link to anywhere you would like to follow me.

Bret: Right on.

Pat: Awesome.

Nika: Thank you so much for having me here this has been so fun.

Bret: Yeah super fun.

Ash: Yeah thank you.

Pat: It will be done.

Nika: Can't wait to come back and watch the pest.

Pat: Throne is vacant.

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Bret: Congrats.

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Sam: Tackett Pharmacy things.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: Patreon the blown-up package promising yes thank you case that he's promising things that we don't offer on the patreon but you keep going but.

Pat: We're going to do it though.

Bret: Keep going bad.

Ash: What we should do the ringtones the pat ringtones.

Ash: Yay I was it out already.

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Sam: We watch a movie.

Sam: Warren.

Bret: Heck yeah and you can join us next time when we watch a movie that's definitely not a p*** Yanks Ahoy.

Sam: What.

Ash: No.

Sam: Good.

Nika: FEMA natzi.

Pat: Receipt Internet movie.