The Rocketeer with Zach Lipovsky
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She packed my bags last night pre-flight. Zero hour 9:00 a.m. And I'm gonna be high as a kite by then. That’s right, we’re watching Elton John’s The Rocketeer, with special guest host Rachel Schenk from Screen Snark, and guest director Zach Lipovsky!
Starring Ash Blodgett, Pat Edwards, and Rachel Schenk
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Ash: And don't worry about doing like a sink or anything.
Pat: No Brett is very talented in Helsinki.
Ash: Hello and welcome to another episode of let's re-watch the show where we watch movies we loved in our youth and find out if they're still any good I'm Ash.
Pat: And I'm pack.
Rachel: And I'm Rachel.
Pat: What.
Pat: What's happening.
Ash: Oh wait a minute wait a minute what's that Rachel in here.
Pat: Rachel what have you done with Breton Sam where are they.
Rachel: Here I am sneaking sneaking into your podcast.
Ash: Rachel coming in like Team Rocket.
Rachel: Blast off again.
Ash: Yeah. Pat Brett and Sam unfortunately couldn't make it due to a flight change which maybe it's just their excuse to not hang out with bad anymore I don't know.
Pat: Brent husband as a voice recording this way too much time and we played Dede literally today on Twitch so you know this word origins this past weekend in Columbus for the game fair and the joining which we did a Twitter joining call.
Ash: Are short film.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: The film Ashley made one best gaming film at the origins Film Fest which is pretty cool.
Ash: Super cool.
Pat: Yeah that was my first foray foray into Khan life again since the pandemic in it was like fun but terrifying.
Ash: Yeah you got to see people in the meat space which is weird very weird.
Pat: Yeah it was equal parts yeah it was like right it's fun but also I'm really scared.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah it's it's nice to go to a kind as like the talent though you know I think that puts like a nice little like extra bit I just went to Econo pin Clayton New York first year they're doing this Khan with my music group and it was just like I don't think I could do this if I didn't have like a set time to be somewhere I just like Rome around and be confused at all the people yeah.
Ash: Oh yes that was me at DragonCon I was like I don't even know where to go I'll just hang out at the film festival because I don't know but for those of you who may be remember.
Rachel: What what to do with hands at con I do not know.
Rachel: Army of Darkness.
Pat: Do you yeah with.
Ash: Yeah for those of you that maybe remember Rachel has been on the podcast before Rachel what was the movie that you guested on our podcast she remember oh yes very good.
Rachel: I got to watch her the first time.
Ash: And Rachel also has a movie podcast.
Rachel: U2 it's on the certain point of you had test Network very lovely Network called screen smart and it is a podcast where we grab very talented very cool people and we asked them what are they watching what they watch what she wouldn't think about it everything.
Ash: It's a great show it's very fun.
Rachel: Baker's very casual very lakebar convo kind of podcast.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Pat: I like I've gotten some great recommendations for your show cuz it's always what he watching did you like and it's it's a it's a great spot to go see like what was capturing other people's attention so much that they're going to devote you an hour of their time to talk about it.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah.
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Pat: Who is Carrie love you Matt.
Ash: It's great definitely check it out it also has our friend Matt storm as the co-host another wonderful human we actually wanted you both but Matt was too busy for us so.
Rachel: Yeah too cool with his eight billion other podcasts.
Pat: The most prolific podcaster ever to walk the face of this Earth.
Ash: So yeah so any podcasts.
Rachel: Baitcaster more like godcaster.
Ash: Hello.
Pat: Oh this is an extra extra extra special episode has not only do we have the lovely Rachel joining us Philly at the Cohoes but we have an awesome guest.
Ash: Yes we have feature film and TV director zap zap wow you know what I was so focused on your last name Zach because I'm always terrified lipovsky.
Rachel: Honestly.
Pat: When.
Zach: I really like that I think that is what I'm going I'm going with that from now on refer.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: It feels like it fits with the film they were watching.
Rachel: Yeah they same the name Sable popsky is superhero origin name to the like.
Ash: So good so good yeah guys Zach has made feature films and TV shows such as freaks Kim Possible the TV movie Dead Rising Watchtower and soon-to-be dead points he just signed a contract for a new film which is exciting but Zach there's an exciting new credit on your IMDb that was not on there last time I talked to you and that is Fraggle Rock and we have to stop the podcast right now and talk about it I'm so excited.
Zach: Yes.
Pat: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah we are returning this podcast away it is for another day we're going down to Fraggle Rock.
Ash: Yes welcome to the Fraggle Rock fan podcast now.
Ash: But you're doing it.
Ash: Wow.
Ash: Oh my gosh.
Zach: I will be right there with you I mean there's only so much I can talk about it which is basically nothing but I can definitely say that it is a I can say that it exists but I worked on it and it's coming and it's absolutely amazing and it was a dream come true I mean basically you know getting to work with the best puppeteers in the world doing you know epic cinematic work with you know 40 singing and dancing puppets in mega in.
Ash: Wow.
Pat: Well I hate to be a journalist here but I'm looking at your mdbc one of the episodes you did was called into the trash why did you throw the fraggles into the trash sack.
Ash: He can't say he's under NDA.
Zach: As well as earlier with you know if you're a true fraggle friend you'll know that.
Ash: Oh my gosh.
Zach: There is a trash related element to that to that world and you know you might have to go into that trash to find out you know what's really going on but again all the shows incredible anyone who's a fan of the original will be absolutely Blown Away by what they've done it it's both a perfect sort of.
Ash: That's awesome.
Zach: Arnaud and continuation I will just fit right in with everything that I do was but it also takes it to the next level and such a great way so you know and just being able to like work with those that level of people that have dedicated in 30-40 years to puppetry and getting to see them it's like it is truly a magic trick like you you look through the camera and it's just these creatures that are alive that you working with puppeteers at that level is.
Zach: You don't really talk to the Puppeteer you talk to the creature.
Ash: Right yeah.
Rachel: Yes.
Zach: Because end and your nnn they talk back to you and so you're busy hanging out with you no more with all the other kid creatures and you're getting just hang out with them and talk to them as performers which is everything you never imagined when your kids so.
Ash: That's so cool.
Rachel: Oh yeah I I saw Grover at a convention and I wept I whipped like I could not I was social distancing from Grover because I didn't want to disappoint Grover by crying in front of him it's that is a reality where it's just like these are so alive even though like you conceived the puppeteer.
Pat: Yes.
Ash: Okay.
Zach: I can show you one thing I know this is radio but I can show you I can show you one thing and you guys might be able to describe his cuz this is not a spoiler for.
Ash: This is just something Zach Stoll and brought home with him.
Ash: Oh my gosh.
Rachel: Oh my gosh.
Ash: Oh my gosh.
Zach: I wish so I am I am a co-director as you guys might be work so I put erect a lot of the movies that I did and I could rectiv Fraggle Rock with my best friend and this was the gift that they gave us when we left which is a co-directing Duzer made to look like that look made to look like both of us.
Pat: Yeah.
Zach: They trained back for us he got cheat on his wife.
Ash: That is so fun did he get 12 or just you.
Zach: It's the you can see it fine on the bottom it says there's a damn dude you're good to go buy them cuz I'm Zack candy.
Ash: Oh perfect.
Pat: That's so very cool.
Zach: Pretty amazing.
Ash: Did you did you like fly to LA and shoot in the Henson Studios or can you not even say that.
Ash: Okay.
Zach: Can't say it's basically they spared no expense.
Ash: Tasha did you re-watch all the Fraggle Rock to prepare.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Wow.
Ash: Oh wow.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: I definitely dive back in which was crazy cuz it's perfect for the show I hadn't watched it since I was like 7 years olds and you know.
Rachel: You know I'd rather give hints in the credit for that to be honest.
Ash: Wow.
Zach: Any other crazy thing about the show that I didn't know it was that day because most of the characters were puppets and there was only one human character day re-recorded the human character in each language that says show premiered and then dubs all the puppets so that the show was in the the local languages France or or Spanish or whatever.
Rachel: Dad said for the name did they name that character like different honorifics cuz like yeah.
Rachel: Yeah.
Ash: Oh wow.
Ash: That's amazing.
Zach: Different biking in America was. It was a dock but in like England it was a Lighthouse Keeper.
Zach: Highly recommended go check the original Fraggle Rock get that all bubbling up and then when the new Fraggle Rock comes up it'll be a great companion.
Pat: So cool.
Ash: Awesome well I am very excited I can't wait.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: I'm sorry I'm so stoked I love puppets I love him so much.
Ash: You're living the dream.
Rachel: Yeah you showed that doozer and I almost started crying so.
Rachel: Bendable teeth are so cute I can't.
Ash: Yeah yeah I was going to say you had totally.
Pat: He'll talk about another kind of rock at tear.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Twitter Weston racketeering.
Ash: We are watching The Rocketeer this is a film that you brought to us Zack so.
Zach: Yeah well it was a tough assignment trying to you know I went through all the different you know Ash tell me okay to have to be a film that you like to the kid but you haven't seen recently and being quite the cinephile I've everything for my job some often referencing and and kind of taking pieces of stuff that I've seen before and using it as as Source material and and constantly watching movies when I'm writing and so I revisit material like huge amount after I've seen it so finding one that I haven't Revisited is very difficult.
Zach: Ssf.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: If we are there alot of podcasts out there that maybe request a little research of the guests before they come on as far as I know we're the only one that gives a logic puzzle to our guests it's got to be at least this old you can't have seen it and this many years and your spirit.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: And you can subordinate are you've already got a bunch that you've done so they was topped and so yeah I'm going to came up on Rocketeer is a film that still to this day for some reason has a special place in my heart every time I see the.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: I mean yeah.
Ash: I mean come on Tesla.
Zach: Art Deco mask and the jetpack I mean jetpacks basically since that movie my life has been obsessed with jetpacks and I've always wanted a jetpack and pretty much once a week I'm walking down the street and wish I could just click a button and launch off into the sky and I think about that regularly and I'm constantly getting jetpacks or at least you know drones that you can stand on or whatever the case may be like I've always been obsessed about personal flight ever since seeing the spelling even though I haven't really Revisited so it's it's been where it's been too long like come on they have them.
Ash: And where are they is a core they are they closed or no.
Ash: I know.
Ash: Totally totally.
Zach: They have them back then why don't they have them now it's just sort of like the the hoverboard syndrome remember that much about the film I remember sort of the beginning and I remember sort of the end I don't really remember what happened in between.
Pat: Yeah I'm excited to visit this movie because I actually.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: What's.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: I mentioned it on an episode of Duty in passing on an episode we did earlier this year we did the shadow because this is this isn't a terrorist part of that era and like that like 89 like the early 90s or a bunch of comic book e movies set in kind of like a pre-war aesthetic like it started like the first Batman which was very on Batman was it was very hard to place right there's like some technology that's more contemporary but then a lot of very prohibition-era aesthetic to the city and the cars and they do it on purpose right cuz I'm like but then there's the Shadow and the Phantom unlike Darkman and this where I feel like kind of a similar error 20-year are all set with vaguely set within successful and all the executives or like.
Ash: Totally yeah.
Zach: The funny thing is all those things you just mentioned are also sort of dark they have like a dark Edge to them and when I was whatever age I was when these movies all came out it was just as I was starting to watch things that were darker than just silly kid stuff and so like I do remember like Dick Tracy seemings pool and yeah this is my first time seeing Noir basically is like a kid so I don't think dark but it still definitely has that old-timey cereal feel.
Rachel: Wow.
Zach: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah well the The Rocketeer came out June 23rd 1991 and yeah I know do you feel old now I do Joe Johnson who is guys we have had Joe Johnson films on the podcast before so let me give you a taste of some of his films Honey I Shrunk the Kids Jumanji.
Rachel: Amazing I'm in.
Ash: October Sky.
Ash: Jurassic Park 3.
Rachel: Oh oh.
Ash: Captain America the First Avenger.
Pat: What.
Ash: And to write.
Pat: Dang.
Zach: Asbestos.
Zach: Oh wow.
Ash: You're welcome.
Rachel: Yeah okay I am hyped now I haven't I haven't seen The Rocketeer never seen it thank you I've always wanted to witness this thanks for giving me an excuse I will die for first Adventure it is such a good movie.
Rachel: Yeah.
Ash: I mean you can see the parallels right with this like as far as the Aesthetics for sure yeah.
Rachel: That's that's on that just gave me like gooseflesh thinking about watching this now just like I'm excited.
Rachel: Another movie I haven't seen.
Pat: Look okay we can.
Pat: Dalton.
Rachel: Nitro Niles caulder.
Zach: We made my name better so.
Pat: Ya Thang.
Ash: But to throw you a curveball also directed The live-action parts of pagemaster which is not great so he has a lot of good ones and one not two but the screenplay is by Danny Bilson and Paul De Meo who also they co-wrote The Flash and our cats we have a great cast here guys we have Billy Campbell Jennifer Connelly Alan Arkin Timothy Allen Hall Dalton thank you I was like I'm going to mess someone's name of this is just I'm just terrible and names I hate being the person who has to do the names the truth is I'm just terrified of the names and Terry O'Quinn so some good good people they're very excited.
Zach: Alan Arkin I think I remember Alan Arkin being awesome and I think he'll bring a lot to it from the vagueness of what I remember Jennifer Connelly probably doesn't get a lot to do more to do in this movie.
Zach: I don't know I just.
Ash: I mean what makes you think that a movie made in 1991.
Pat: Zack are you telling me a movie made 30 years ago didn't do a good job of creating three-dimensional women characters with agency.
Zach: Exactly I'm a big fan of hers I think she's amazing she's always been someone I've Loved but I I fear in this movie she she may not have a lot to do but we'll see hopefully she I think she gets a few punches and kicks in there against the Nazis I hope so.
Ash: Oh nice every keto she could she could take an oxy I can see you're doing it.
Rachel: The betony yeah.
Pat: Vision Paul Bettany.
Pat: Do you want me to do the cast and I will look at the rest I won't cheat on their games.
Pat: Paul Bettany.
Ash: Random trivia that I found out while doing research for this movie I did not know that she is married to Paul Bentley or Bentley thank you f****** Envision god dammit. Just open my mouth and you can say the words thank you.
Pat: Cutting my voice is Ash's three King.
Ash: Yes there you go.
Rachel: Oh good I'm so glad we're getting some puppeteering happening here in this this little Discord chat.
Ash: Zach can direct us anyway I did not know that she was married to him I thought that was kind of interesting.
Ash: Right.
Rachel: I totally fell in that Wormhole of like celebrity power couples and was really surprised at the number of actors I did not know dated each other and even more actors I'd never heard of I was like who are you.
Zach: Assessment.
Rachel: Oh wow.
Ash: Oh yeah or the ones you find out over like related to each other and you're like oh didn't know had no idea of well we like to do a little things act called the money game.
Zach: Oh boy I don't know about that.
Ash: And I think you are probably the most qualified person to ever play this game because you actually know what budgets are for Phelps or feature films way better than probably all of us but it's a game where we guess the budget the opening weekend and the world gross of the film so first up the budget who wants to open up opening gas of the budget now remember 1991 and I will give you the clue that Disney is behind this film so there is Disney money involved but it is 1991.
Zach: Yeah stop cuz budgets were so much lower back then I also I don't know if this is true but I work.
Zach: I feel like people think this was a flop I feel like people maybe it's just that my in my mind no one gives the do credit that it deserves cuz I remember it so fondly as a kid and no one else seems to share that feeling whenever I mention it but I also feel like maybe it wasn't that big of a hit and when it came out and no one seems to finally remember this movie so I'm thinking that it probably didn't do super well whenever it whenever the opening was.
Ash: It didn't rock it to the top of its shots sorry I'm sorry I'll leave now.
Pat: I'm going to say 45 million for budget.
Ash: We did that did you say a number.
Zach: No I didn't I that was actually what I was thinking was 45 but I think there needs to be like a I think there's a 90s discount I think it can't be that high in the 90s I think it needs to I think it would have to come down from there just for the like so I would say I'm going to go with like 35 million.
Ash: Okay and Rachel.
Rachel: I'm going to go prices right rules and say $1.
Pat: Okay.
Ash: Just one just one that's all.
Rachel: Yeah you know what I'm going to say $8.
Ash: Fourth Isbell.
Rachel: You know I meant and then maybe I'll win the blender.
Zach: Yeah and then Ash has to say 46 million.
Pat: Come on.
Pat: Ouch.
Rachel: Play it wasn't a dollar.
Zach: LOL.
Ash: Yeah well I don't guess cuz I know and as I predicted I mean man Zach right on the money $35 congratulations I'm so sorry.
Zach: So I went.
Ash: Maybe the crafty was a dollar in the fudge yeah you bragging rights forever but next up.
Pat: 35 minutes okay.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: When I go to the showcase showdown where I have to guess the actual money amount that it make I don't think it did I don't think it did well.
Zach: That's my guess.
Ash: Sao opening weekend for us and Canada combined and what are your guys's guesses.
Pat: 10 million.
Zach: My guess.
Ash: Watson's Timonium.
Zach: I'm going to say.
Zach: I'm going to say no I'm going to say.
Ash: Cheats Knight do on that come in before.
Zach: Yeah when I go with 6 million.
Ash: $8 not too so that they'd make their money back just what.
Rachel: You're right you don't I believe in this film $6.
Rachel: Believe in the power of this flick.
Ash: I believe in this movie I've never seen so much yeah congratulations Pat because it was 9600754 dollars which couch.
Rachel: Next one.
Ash: Oh do you.
Zach: Well actually going by Price is Right rules I went because he went over and I'm the next one belloso dollars.
Ash: Hey Ya.
Pat: I don't remember I feel like I feel like we've done it both ways I feel like I feel like I feel like we've done it like just just straight-up closest and Price is Right rules but you're the gas so I'll default to you.
Ash: Pet finally win something.
Pat: Cuz I'm a good cuz I'm a good host. Great huh.
Ash: Yeah but worldwide gross does he want to throw out any guesses on that one just a reminder the budget was 35 million opening weekend was about 9 million.
Rachel: Oh yeah a date made $8 got two more globally know I'm probably hopefully made its budget back globally so whatever the budget was.
Ash: Okay.
Rachel: 35 yea.
Pat: 35.
Pat: Okay.
Zach: I'm going to switch away with padding to do 45 million I'm going to take his original number and say that I had legs but that's probably not true it's probably it's probably.
Zach: Yeah.
Ash: Oh nice was there you go zakka 46 million seven hundred 4050 $6 congratulations.
Pat: Is there a cash does running the table.
Zach: Well.
Ash: Zack just cleaned us out clean this out will be sending you this lovely blender.
Zach: Well hopefully I want also by picking this movie hopefully when we watch it it's not a complete this point.
Ash: Yeah hopefully we're not like you know.
Ash: Yeah that 9 million sits right.
Pat: I would love I would love a retrospective or someone I wish for like a week someone doing a Wiki for us cuz I'm really curious.
Pat: If there's any correlation in box of this cuz I feel like I can't in my head I feel like I've not noticed any Trend with box office versus how we actually feel about the movie when we come back after watching it.
Rachel: Yeah.
Ash: Totally yeah I mean there's there's so many films right that like we're box office flops but then became like cult classics or you know so I don't know that it's.
Ash: There you go.
Rachel: Yeah I'm hoping The Rocketeer has the Jennifer's Body effects of just like this movie underrated and it's time.
Ash: It's true it does are you go.
Pat: And actually has a Jennifer's Body Jennifer Connelly is in the movie like.
Ash: She's the one that got paid the $8.
Ash: Yep.
Zach: Well so this movie was right before like 1993 was really when visual effects CGI sort of took off like no computer Graphics that's when Jurassic Park came out so this movie was right before sort of right at the end of sort of know the usual facts as far as CGI so.
Zach: Yeah.
Ash: Hahaha where you going with this is terrible movie it's not great though.
Pat: I'm going to disagree with you and say was 1984 cuz I just had a podcast episode I guess it out on call DHS gems and we did Last Starfighter and that blows itself as the first movie with fully computer-generated Graphics photorealistic I'm kidding they were not good they look like an N64 game like.
Zach: Well I'm interested to see like the the flying sequences are they going to be completely laughable or are they going to be believable you know.
Ash: Definitely.
Pat: Oh that's yeah.
Ash: And there's.
Zach: Cuz I couldn't ruin the felt like if it's like cheesy Superman to Flying it's going to be pretty bad.
Ash: Absolutely yeah I like terrible green screen or something well I have some trivia for you guys about this film before we move onto our predictions and memories first up I didn't realize this movie is based off a graphic novel which I think is pretty cool and the graphic in the graphic novel Cliff the main character his girlfriend's name is Bettie Page and is named after the graphic novels Creator real-life friend the real Betty Page which is kind of cool she's not called Betty Page in the movie though just so you know and speaking of flying so there's some real airplanes in this movie so the GB airplane used for shooting was nicknamed the Widowmaker and the flying coffin because it was incredibly difficult to fly and prone to crashing.
Rachel: Wow.
Ash: But it used to be one of the world's fastest planes clocking in at 252 mph so that's that's how fast they were going which is pretty fast.
Zach: Speed speed and depth do seem to correlate pretty pretty closely so going.
Zach: That's a shame.
Ash: B2 yeah that one there's a correlation I think that also Joe Johnson's work on this film is what led to him being hired as the Director of Captain America the First Avenger and I think after watching it you know they'll be like full of course because of just the amazing art Direction and whatnot and I thought this was also an interesting thing he had a special mechanism built especially for this film called the shaky-cam it was designed to be the exact opposite of a Steadicam that is that it introduced vibrations into the picture and it was used in the scenes filmed inside the Zeppelin to give the impression of the powerful engines however when the movie went to video the affected translate so well and was therefore studied which I think is so hilarious but is used for the Neville Sinclair's mansion in this film is actually the Enos house and it's the home of a Los Feliz neighborhood in Los Angeles that was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright and you can see it in other films such as Blade Runner the day of the Locust and moon 44 + replicas of the Interior reviews for Predator 2 and if you Google this house you're like oh my God yeah that's that's Blade Runner like it's it's amazing so I thought that was kind of cool.
Rachel: Mint.
Pat: Yeah.
Zach: La have a lot of Lloyd Wright houses and they're all been used in like famous movies so like every time you you go to those houses you're like oh yeah that's been in 10 movies pretty awesome.
Pat: Did you say there's a character in this film called Neville Sinclair.
Ash: Yes yes.
Pat: That's a bit that's the villain that's the villain called right now that's the villain.
Rachel: Yeah that sounds good.
Ash: Definitely definitely.
Rachel: Yeah.
Zach: He's living in the Blade Runner house she's definitely developing.
Pat: A fancy house yeah that's the best of Millen right there.
Ash: Yeah right yeah for sure for sure.
Rachel: Yeah that person's going to twist a mustache if they got them.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: I mean Neville like if you name your kid Neville like she's definitely turning out to be you no questionable ethical character.
Ash: Except for the Harry Potter Neville he was pretty straight-laced.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: He has he had assert his surname balance out that with Lucy was her name is what is benevolent is Longbottom then you're like okay that's going to Palace going to pull them back that's going to.
Rachel: Oh you are a hobbit and that's just that's just neutral good at the worst you know.
Pat: Yes exactly.
Ash: Throwing back to her previous episode Longbottom is almost like screw eye with the screw eye guy from the dinosaurs when we watch.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: But yeah that's I mean I have a couple like another interesting fact was Joe Pesci turned down the role of Eddie Valentine which maybe maybe will be interesting after we see the film like our memories of the film when was the last time you watched it and do you predict if it will hold up so Zach you brought us this film when was the last time you watched this phone.
Zach: I'm not entirely sure I definitely have seen at once not as a kid I remember exactly how long do maybe 10-12 years ago or something like that like so it hasn't it's not in my infant brain was but I so I'd advise it a long enough ago not to remember tons about it I remember sort of the beginning and the end you know that the end has a big step piece of the Griffith Observatory which I went too often when I used to live in LA and so I would often you know think of obviously Rebel Without a Cause but also.
Ash: Imagine you're like the guy standing out there like did you or The Rocketeer was shot here and people like whatever.
Zach: The James Dean you know statue remember that and yeah like I said I remember.
Zach: It's got that sort of Femme Fatale sort of Noir.
Zach: Start a feel to it which I always like but I'm curious if it falls into the trucks of that or does it and send them I'm should probably always be tropes but but you know sometimes you're able to be able to do interesting things but it couldn't it could be cringe-worthy at times.
Ash: That's what you're really excited about the jet packing.
Zach: You believe a man can fly that's what I'm hoping for.
Ash: How about you Rachel.
Rachel: Well I have never seen this movie but I this morning I tried to watch a trailer of it and it was just like a clip and it was like The Rocketeer flying and I was like I have no context for this but I like that this looks like it's filmed in a place outside that's in you know I'm just really excited to explore a comic book adaptation that I have this just a blind spot for me you know.
Zach: Remember pink bubblegum plays a big part in the story that's something else I remember very.
Rachel: Unlock.
Ash: Yeah actually that was another fact that came along with the gum that he's chewing is considered like a lucky charm for Pilots like Pilots actually the time would chew that gum kind interesting.
Pat: Is that how it gets left off the ground he blows big bubbles with the gum.
Zach: Now it's much cooler than that.
Ash: If you have to get up first and then turn on the rocket it's a whole process how about you fat.
Pat: I think I'm going to enjoy it I am afraid this is going to fall this is going to be a repeat of the Shadow episode where I stop being a part of this show and start being a part of another of another pass or I'm just looking at ways to rewrite it the whole time or like how would I improve it because I just I like this aesthetic a lot I like this era of film I like I just think it's a lot of fun that pre-war you know I want to go to the point.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Ash: Ding ding ding Rachel There She Goes perfect thank you Rachel yeah I I remember much like you Zach I remember loving this movie as a kid I remember seeing it on the Disney Channel and watching it on on there I don't think I saw it in theaters but I remember really believing that this guy was flying and being pretty Blown Away by the the graphics so I'm curious to see if that still holds up and I just remember just enjoying the story of the film but I don't remember anything I don't I know he has a jetpack I know that but I don't remember anything like I didn't even remember that Nazis were a part of this film though it makes total sense I don't know how I could forget that so I'm.
Ash: Right yeah.
Zach: Yeah I mean it's very much it was sort of built off the success of Indiana Jones like it it's like okay let's you know let's do Indiana Jones basically.
Ash: And I believe this director also directed A young Indiana Jones one of the one of those so I could see that again like building off of that career but yeah I'm excited I think I kind of agree the same way where I feel like when I bring this film up people don't seem to respond to it as fondly as I feel of it and I have a memory of it but I also it's also not a great sign that I don't remember the plot or anyting.
Zach: Or just an amazing gift you get to experience your childhood all over again.
Ash: That's true yeah I get to relive it like it's brand new and I'm very excited to see Jennifer Connelly in it so I am biunno bracing myself for the inevitable 90s / 1930s film so yeah.
Zach: Yeah but we can do the rewrite for the sequel where you know she comes back to Kick-Ass and dust off the old jetpack and shows people how it's done.
Ash: I like it.
Pat: Fun fact there is a I don't know Zach I have three very small children so we've my life is like virtually I live like a third of It on Disney plus there is a Rocketeer show animated show for kids and it's a young a young girl is now The Rocketeer and.
Ash: Odisha girl all that's cool.
Pat: Yeah I'll drop it in the chat just for funsies but.
Zach: That's awesome.
Ash: Well that maybe you can direct an episode of that one someday to.
Pat: Yeah yeah she asked your point I please let it be okay the writing of Jennifer Connelly character but.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Oh yeah I mean you know it's there's going to be some face probably probably.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah and you know at the end of the day we can only bind ourselves that Joe Johnson did direct Peggy in First Avenger and she rules so deeply so.
Pat: Ultimate Captain Carter.
Rachel: Captain Carter yes.
Ash: Hahaha yeah well we are going to pause our recordings and go watch the Rockets here you can watch it for free on Disney plus I guess is not free I mean you have to pay them for us and we'll be ready.
Ash: Rocketman I don't know the words.
Rachel: Banana.
Pat: Burning up is bubblegum out here.
Ash: Hey y'all Rocketman.
Zach: What's up.
Pat: Hahaha I mean I mean he was his bond in The Living Daylights and.
Rachel: No.
Ash: I mean have you seen him in Hot Fuzz cuz.
Rachel: I did also very much so.
Pat: Silver Fox Timothy Dalton.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Yeah.
Rachel: I think it's just because I've been watching so much Doom Patrol that like Timothy Dalton became dials colder to me so that first shot of his just like Fay's I just a gas.
Pat: Okay I apologize cuz I know I am like the worst on the show as far as tangents but hold on right side detour cuz do patrols like the best comic book show like it is it's.
Rachel: It's so good so good.
Ash: No spoiler they ever feed okay.
Pat: Disabled.
Rachel: It's so good.
Ash: I've been told to watch it by several people and I.
Pat: Do you want to do the show or one of the best characters is a sentient sentient non-binary Street yes of course Danny the street.
Rachel: Destiny the street the greatest.
Ash: What okay has alright definitely checking up.
Ash: Okay.
Rachel: So great it's.
Pat: Is the show where they are you okay it's very very good can't recommend it enough if you love them Briella Academy this is like even weirder similar Vai but even f****** weirder than Umbrella Academy.
Pat: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah it's a.
Ash: That that's why I was told to watches cuz somebody was like I know how much you love Umbrella Academy you need to watch this one.
Pat: Very they're all very sad all the time.
Ash: Uno.
Rachel: It's a superhero movie but the whole premise not movie television show but it's just like several sad girl just so sad they're all traumatize and they're all sad it's the best.
Pat: I didn't want to be heroes or like f*** off leave us alone.
Rachel: We just want to be sad in our mansion.
Ash: Nice.
Pat: It's so good yes but.
Ash: But yeah The Rocketeer this movie.
Pat: Rocketeer.
Rachel: I love that is very fun.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Bad guys I mean I don't I don't know if it's too early to come out the gate but it was great it was pretty freaking good.
Rachel: Yeah.
Ash: Oh Pat oh.
Zach: It's not deep.
Ash: Yeah he.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: No I liked it it was okay I liked it I have stuff I have notes I was just curious what else our main fellas been in cuz his name didn't ring a bell and Billy Campbell he's got he's got such a crazy like like stereotypical like leading May Hollywood like chisell Jaw leading man.
Ash: So he was definitely a no-name actor at the time of this film and the director had to really fight Disney execs to like cast this guy cuz they were like very not on board and they wanted a major star and apparently he even cut his hair to make it look like the graphic novel character and for his audition and that's what really got him apart.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Totally.
Zach: Where you go I mean he was very Charming that was very Charming he had he had sort of all the different pieces you need in a leading man of that era but probably cuz the movie wasn't that success what the time it probably was the end of that for him.
Pat: I mean there's been working his IMDb is it is quite quite full but I only recognize most of this interesting.
Ash: And I.
Rachel: Yeah he he voices The Rocketeer in The Rocketeer cartoon.
Pat: Okay.
Ash: Really how fun.
Ash: Oh okay.
Ash: Right.
Rachel: Yeah he yeah they call him Dave in that one so I don't know if it's like this is like a new generation of Rocketeer stuff but at least at least I got him back.
Pat: Dave Secor.
Ash: What's like the spider-verse with sobriety reverse.
Ash: Yeah I was like Googling after watching the film cuz I was like wait why why was the film not a success and they were actually planning on making a sequel but because it did so bad in the box office they like and it and it just like it just didn't critics gave it great reviews but like the audience just was like they had seen Batman they were in love with Batman and then I guess they were just over it I don't know they just weren't into it.
Ash: Okay.
Pat: I mean distance right into my one big gripe with it I feel like in again I know that technology and budget are challenges with what I'm going to say but it's likely they already showed us everything they needed to be able to do this in the action sequences in my opinion were very lacking.
Ash: Interesting.
Pat: As far as there is the initial racketeering when that's at the airshow we're saves the clown guy pumpkin clown.
Rachel: Malcolm.
Ash: Classic I wait why was he dressed as the clown did I miss that.
Ash: Professional Cloud makeup putter onner.
Ash: Got it.
Ash: Got it okay.
Pat: Small Cliff was supposed to be dressed as a clown also he keep with that make it up really f****** fast cuz there's like I'm looking at the plane cuz not here you better be one minute and then I'll head full face paint on it some I'm sure it's like he does if I were to imagine I would say like they're doing you know very insync Maneuvers and Anna clown maybe goes up into very Talent stunt pilot who does like wacky stuff like he's like.
Zach: Yeah I think it's exactly that's the airshow thing did you get a clown that goes up in that looks like they're like a drunk flyer and they fly around and do silly stuff.
Pat: So.
Zach: Alright.
Ash: And that's why he was like it's all part of the show got it okay.
Ash: Well that's you.
Zach: Assistant.
Pat: Also cuz he was a greedy capitalist Pig who didn't care about people's well-being over his money give anyone a reason to ask for a refund but so there's that.
Zach: And he got bent in half.
Ash: The irony of him not bending over backwards for anyone but then.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: That's a decent little there was literally a Dick Tracy villain in this like that guy the minion.
Ash: My boyfriend kept calling him a Frankenstein's monster.
Zach: Yeah.
Ash: Oh yeah yeah he does.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Yeah and then someone else in the movie called him Frankenstein would have been great if someone would have been great is if the mob boss had corrected the person's like actually actually Pauley is Frankenstein was the doctor in in the.
Rachel: Anxiously Frankenstein's monster you see.
Pat: I love that book.
Pat: Mary Shelley greatest author of A Time.
Rachel: Mary Shelley just.
Zach: Ssf.
Rachel: Road at Road a hell of a novel you know.
Pat: I feel like the action was so there's that's a decent introductory scene for like thing it's kind of like he's getting the hang of it he's not perfect kind of sucks it up a little bit you saving the person's life is very altruistic the only public thing of The Rocketeer but like all the sudden he's known hero but he is as one little small country event that 100 people attended but now it's like a national thing.
Rachel: Yes.
Pat: And then there's the club sequence when he's inside the club which I'm like new.
Ash: But wasn't it Nationals though didn't they say it was Nationals which is a pretty big deal.
Ash: Okay.
Zach: Best on testicle.
Ash: Cat is already Rewritten misspell.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: We got to leave room for the sequel.
Pat: No Nationals like they want to go to Nationals with like a turned some kind of turned of is nothing but and then there's the finale the action sequences movie absolutely needed but as far as like the seen this movie needed to have instead of like the club scene or something is him with like two pistols or something having a dogfight with like fighter planes like planes or like the little machine that wasn't a biplanes wiggling machine guns on it cuz it had the plainsmen the airshow you put a paint job on them and have like at the end or even in the middle or at the end that's just like a blimp have like a dog fight him and his jetpack versus like a pair of like nazi-like fight-or-flight little fighter by planes.
Pat: Yes.
Pat: Yes.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah.
Zach: Plus you know what you want in the sequel is Rocketeer versus Rocketeer with guns in the air and all that type of stuff I mean the part of this is I thought was really amazing was the real plane stuff like if that was a movie shot today most of that plane stuff would have just been CG planes that they do and all the Avenger movies and stuff now but you could tell that like they were actually flying all these planes around in like that will sequence where he's up on the plane saving parts of that room like I don't.
Zach: I was starting to get a little bored sort of near the end of Act 2 like as they're all just kind of trying to all find each other I was kind of waiting for the end of the movie but I thought the end of the movie did end up being really great and really fun than and you know this.
Zach: Kind of funny how I like how the gangsters turn on them because they're Nazis like I thought that was a really fun like you know kind of.
Zach: Totally.
Rachel: No I'm afraid that line I may not make an honest dollar but I'm one hundred percent American it's just like that's cute.
Ash: And apparently that was true for the time like like Mobsters hated Nazis in the 30s.
Zach: Everyone.
Rachel: Yeah.
Ash: Haha yeah yeah.
Ash: Yeah yeah.
Pat: Yeah oh yeah the worst yeah I just like I made yeah I maybe a Horseless killer I may be an absolute cold-blooded remorseless killer.
Rachel: Yeah.
Zach: And there were some pretty good lines like like that that's route there was some pretty good one-liners of things like ladies-in-waiting were waiting and like that wasn't lying it was act acting.
Pat: That was very good.
Ash: Or the I'm going to miss Hollywood but hits the Hollywood Sign yeah there's some.
Zach: Yeah I like that.
Rachel: That's why it's no longer hollywoodland.
Zach: Exactly.
Ash: So I looked that up because I was really curious I don't know if anybody else knows the history but I guess hollywoodland was actually a Housing Development that was being made and they put up the sign hollywoodland to advertise it and then after the development they just kept the sign and then eventually became a landmark and they took the Land part off but.
Ash: Oh did it oh wow.
Pat: Yeah cuz a Nazi blimp L on it.
Rachel: Yeah.
Zach: I think the lamb part fell down like it literally got it was that that part was starting to deteriorate and so they they took that part off the speaker history.
Ash: Not the blimps the Nazi and the jetpack.
Pat: Oh yeah yeah.
Pat: Yes very good.
Pat: Which.
Zach: I love that I thought it was so funny when he's like don't worry we have the best pilot in all of Germany it's going to be totally fine and then I got out the window.
Ash: Totally.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: I feel like we all were a little frayed I feel like they did okay bye Jenny as far as your shoes at proactive she like to hit people over the head with things cuz she did it like three times as like.
Zach: Yeah.
Ash: She was still a damsel-in-distress but she wasn't the worst.
Pat: But not helpless like.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah yeah but like she's.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: TRUE.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: No.
Zach: There was a few too many there was a few too many boob jokes like there was like literally one moment were like pens to her boobs I'm like that Disney would never do that at.
Rachel: Oh yeah that that like that's caving report or just like I'd rather freeze I loved it.
Zach: Yeah.
Rachel: Buy q&q tell that Nazi.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: Yeah so she did that she did the best she could but yeah there was definitely a few moments of craziness.
Ash: Definitely.
Ash: Oh yeah totally.
Pat: You can really see holyshit Ash I don't know that when you the the First Avenger and this the Captain America and this is so much as far as I even like Howard Hughes and Howard Stark very like.
Rachel: No.
Pat: We survived.
Zach: Yeah.
Zach: I mean I couldn't.
Ash: Oh yeah I didn't even think about that totally and the way he flies and everything you know Zach you were talking about like the real planes doing real Maneuvers and like I feel like even the special effects wallet wasn't the best it wasn't the worst it was actually pretty good it was done by 11 a. M. There were like a few shots were like I'd see like a hail hail oh yeah the Flames looks great.
Ash: Wow.
Ash: My boyfriend said that.
Zach: All the Flames coming out the back pretty sure those are real Frank Flames most the time but I'm looking at it going like his legs are really close to us or I couldn't.
Pat: Other things around him are getting singed but not the back of his leg.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: Well like there was a lot of shots where like the Flames were casting light on the stuff around it and that's really hard to do it with just Optical effects and.
Ash: I mean we saw their fake Flames at the end and you know those are very different from the real looking Flames for sure.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: Totally.
Zach: I think they had some I think to some degree they hadn't jetpack that can shoot real flames and they were using it quite a bit like and there was some stuff that like when they put the jetpack on the on the Statue and it was like flying around which is a scene that I remembered from when I was a kid that looks so great like clearly they had done that to some degree practically overall I was pretty impressed with how it held up from Micah you know it didn't take you out of the movie to the point where it looks so cartooning like it was definitely it was definitely done pretty well from the flying standpoint definitely think that you could get a jetpack.
Rachel: No.
Zach: Great.
Zach: Yeah I did and there's been serious too.
Ash: Okay do you have the Google alert set up.
Zach: Recently that development in that stories people have been have started to wonder if it was actually a drawing that just look like a man with a jetpack.
Ash: Oh interesting.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: That's that's the latest theory that it was just a drone Jetpack Man fake.
Ash: It's.
Pat: Have you seen the real Iron Man suit that Adam Savage made these like thrusters on the arms and legs and stuff and yeah.
Zach: There are people like the jackass doing this and they work and all that is just the only work for 10 minutes so like they no one has the no-fly to work version where you can fly for half an hour and let you know the problem right now is just evil and the same thing for like grown backpacks like personal helicopter same thing as the batteries only last like 10 minutes so we're getting better than we might have actual flying machines but.
Pat: You can put an arc reactor in your chest.
Zach: Exactly.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: There you go yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: I mean I would so very I would do that.
Rachel: You sign yeah that works that works for Tony movies are real if these are factual things that happens right.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: So who else was surprised to see Jan from the office of this movie.
Pat: Yes the singer at the club was yeah.
Ash: Yeah I was like excuse me what.
Ash: So Random.
Ash: Totally.
Ash: Yeah yeah she really is a good singer.
Pat: Oh yeah.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: Yes.
Zach: I mean adding me to send a reminder biggest surprise of the film that was a delight was Neville Sinclair I loved him as a Billet I thought he he was he was corny but it's kind of brilliant having the good guy actor who's actually a bad guy like and he just milked that whole thing and he was able to get away with being so cheesy because he wasn't a Cheesy actor like it kind of just excused to the cheesiness and he could his lean into being a total Dylan but the sort of gentleman villain thing I've always loved like like just like.
Rachel: Yeah a real a real Class Act for a Nazi you know.
Zach: Rent totally.
Rachel: Play Just.
Ash: I mean he even has a closet full of women's clothing for no reason.
Zach: Yeah that was really creepy.
Rachel: SIU Noah not weird.
Ash: Yeah I was like I don't know what's creepier that he kidnapped her or that he has a closet full of clothes for her ready.
Rachel: Hey.
Pat: Yeah.
Zach: Yeah when he's like oh don't worry it's just the chloroform it's it'll wear off soon.
Rachel: Oh I think Coco alpeter venkman's here great fun good times we love it.
Zach: Yeah exactly.
Ash: I think it'd be really funny.
Zach: Yeah he looks great with that mustache and.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: But he also talked about this with other movies and I enjoy and villains that no other villains and enjoy being villains as like I'm and I have I know I'm the bad guy I'm having fun being the bad guy now like the actor the actor too but like the character in world is like oh and I am the villain of this reality but I'm enjoying myself immensely and tough s***.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: We pulled it off cuz he's filled with ego you notice so it just plays into his ego of being a mastermind and being brilliant Anita working for the Fatherland and so.
Zach: It all works.
Zach: Westchester.
Ash: You can tell the Edgar Wright saw this movie and he was like I need him for Hot Fuzz cuz it was again the same energy it's so perfect perfect casting so Grace.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: Yeah I love I love that scene where he's using lines from his movies till I compress her and then she keeps calling him on it and he keeps like soda pretending like he's not but like cuz it's like the perfect way of like bruising his ego is that he needs line Red Line readings to be seductive.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: I bet it's worked a lot and it's like in like she's a film she's she's like a student of film she wants to do this for jobs.
Zach: And she out accent.
Rachel: I love that scene in the diner where she was like sort of explaining like the movie at the diner or she's like no the champagne bottle like it means something you do and everyone's like apples or dumb just go with the thieves let's live there you know.
Rachel: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Call Teagan have.
Zach: Well I kind of felt like that was also talking I felt like that scene was talking about the movie in the movie we will watch it because the movie is Jeezy like it is it is leaning into a believability that is not realistic because it is of sort of a film Noir serial John Brooke and so it's some degree you need to just let it be it you know especially with the giant Frankenstein guide.
Zach: Full full Dick Tracy full full.
Rachel: Or.
Ash: Or the Giants eplin with swastikas that no one's noticed why.
Ash: Gotcha.
Zach: Like her basically saying like sometimes you just got to go with it I felt like that was the writer basically talkin about what you're watching a sort of like a you have to kind of just and if you're willing to it'll be really fun the movie definitely isn't very deep but doesn't have very strong Ark that doesn't have very strong themes it doesn't really say anything about Society it's just a fun wrong to kill Nazis.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: Yes.
Zach: Yeah.
Zach: Play some music playing.
Ash: Yeah yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: I ate I do love very much I think the standout thing for me living that I'm going to carry forward is the scene where they're filming the scene where it says like that's not how y'all are making a movie this isn't making a movie works like it'd be one thing if I guess one shot on the set but we're getting a bunch of different edits and it's just like hey.
Ash: Yeah and he actually stabs the guy.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: She also starts dating a movie star just cuz he asked her out like they both sort of our on weird unfaithful.
Rachel: No.
Pat: Yeah I feel like he was very derogatory to her career which in my opinion is more legitimate than his career which is like I'm going to iFly stunt plane and or I fly this plane is competition in step to blank stuffed at 3 profit like.
Pat: She was working.
Zach: Weathercaster.
Ash: Yeah I kind of understand where he was coming from though like I agree with you I think what he said was shity but I think it was because he was hurt that she was also not supporting his career by showing up and seen what he you know he had those comments of like will you miss this and yeah but I don't I think I think I'm not saying that you made the right choice I'm just saying I understand where he's coming from I guess.
Pat: No ass.
Zach: Testosterone Arts there they both sort of end up seeing each other and supporting each other more than they were at the beginning like us there arcs.
Ash: Yeah well this might be a good time for Lies IMDB.
Rachel: Unprepared.
Zach: Alright.
Ash: Okay so I'm going to tell you three IMDb facts one of them is a lie and you guys have to figure out which one is which okay so the first one is this is Disney's s comic book adaptation film The Years Later dizzy would distribute most of the Marvel Cinematic Universe films and then number two is during filming the GB plane nicknamed The Flying coffin crashed and nearly killed the pilot was rushed to the nearest hospital luckily he only suffered a concussion and number three I can count Nursery Emilio Estevez Bill Paxton Dennis Quaid and Kirk Russell were all auditioned for the role of Cliff but Disney's favorite Choice was Johnny Depp alright any any guesses.
Rachel: They all sound so true.
Zach: You're all pretty good.
Pat: If you be the first fact fact again.
Ash: PCC hahaha yes the first fact is this is Disney's second comic book adaptations film though years later Disney would distribute most of the Marvel Cinematic Universe films not the comic books I forgot the film word at the end.
Zach: I'm going to say I'm going to say number one I think probably it's close to being second but I don't think it's probably second I think it's probably like.
Zach: It's in the first 10 but I don't think it's necessarily there sucking.
Rachel: Yeah I think Disney loves Johnny Depp too much for 3 to not be true.
Zach: I don't know.
Ash: And Pat.
Zach: I guess.
Pat: I don't do the same as everyone else.
Rachel: Yeah I think it's one.
Pat: I want to say they'll lie.
Zach: I think I remember hearing that someone onset got hurt so I think that that is probably true.
Pat: I'm leaving I think I want to see the LIE is.
Ash: Most important decision of your life.
Pat: I mean that's a really specific list you put together if you made that up for the actors I'm going to say 3.
Pat: I see you put the effort in.
Rachel: Oh I'm just I am on one.
Ash: Thank you okay your three Rachel's one is that you change the one Rachel okay exact is also.
Pat: She's on one.
Ash: A1 and Zach is also one.
Ash: Disney loves.
Rachel: Oh I know I believe three because I believe that like Disney love John love Johnny Depp like look at look at all Alice in Wonderland nuts like.
Zach: That was so much later.
Ash: Well that's true.
Rachel: My wife so much later but he is kind of like a Golden Boy around this time.
Pat: It was too.
Zach: That was incredible that shot.
Zach: Oh my God.
Pat: National Treasure Alan Arkin I dare you.
Ash: It's true well I'm excited to say that I won this round because the lies number to despite the fact that the plane was called that no Pilots were injured however you are right Zack that someone did get injured on the shoot so the shot where the plane crashes and then we see it like gliding like sliding across the runway as it's like crashing there was a cable yeah so there was a cable that was pulling that and it snapped and it hits what's his name again I'm forgetting it hit Alan Arkin in the legs and he almost was like seriously injured but luckily he was okay but but he was like a little bit injured from that so yeah.
Zach: And they have that Johnny Depp standing by just in case to slide him in and.
Ash: Just in case I bring him on in.
Pat: Johnny Depp is a PV roll that's great.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: No.
Rachel: I love practical effects 11 a. M.
Zach: Yeah that match that scene where the Burning Plane lands and catch the wheels knocked off by the car and then crashes in the car hits the the fuel truck like that whole thing I was like we never get stuff like this.
Ash: Yeah I don't know how you would plan that it's crazy.
Ash: Cuz I like you couldn't either yeah I have no idea how they would do that it was nuts.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: Well obviously there was a cable involved in it almost done almost badly hurt.
Ash: Almost lost a National Treasure.
Ash: Oh man.
Pat: Nice.
Zach: No.
Ash: The other thing I had was that Bulldog Cafe I don't know I know Pat and Rachel have probably never been but Zack I don't know if you've ever been to Idle Hour in LA but they have a tiny replica of it in the back of the restaurant outside and it's so cool it looks just like it but the I guess the original Cafe in the film cuz it was a real Cafe got destroyed at one point but they like rebuilt it but yeah.
Zach: Was so cool.
Rachel: No.
Pat: Yeah cuz some Mobsters came and shot it up like big jerks.
Ash: You know.
Zach: We don't have a cap anymore we just have a gazebo.
Zach: That was a that was a great great.
Ash: But their 100.
Rachel: We're going to come in and destroy all your pies but we don't like Nazis.
Zach: The writers had a lot of fun with that.
Pat: Oh man I would love some diner by I love.
Rachel: What's a labor of love.
Ash: Listen you can ruin the diner coffee but the pie come on come on.
Pat: I'll men I'm a man.
Rachel: Odair.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: So good love a greasy Diner meal.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: No yeah.
Zach: Well I'm glad the movie was on a total Dad I'm glad that you know in my memory of my boys defended this movie and people wasn't very good but I was like I think it was good and I think it is good I think it's a little note definitely leaves into the into the genre but you know.
Pat: Oh I love that I really like that aesthetic I let this error like setting this time movies I just.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: I just really enjoy that I love the is a combination the Golden Era Hollywood stuff I like that that's I really appreciate that enjoy that and just yeah.
Rachel: Oh yeah I want to go to that nightclub for real.
Rachel: Gorgeous.
Ash: Oh yeah those are cool absolutely.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: Yeah I want to go yes I want to go to like the club like that or like Coco Copacabana or whatever or something like yeah I want to go to those kinds of clubs like the dinner Club they said yeah.
Rachel: I want to put on I want to put on my Opera gloves I want someone to hide a note and some soup for me.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Absolutely.
Zach: Wouldn't it be awesome if like someone had a club like that and they built a club like that and then like once a night.
Ash: I'd be so cool.
Rachel: Man.
Pat: So great.
Ash: Let be the best.
Pat: And.
Zach: There's like a shootout and like Nazis come in in like you know Indiana Jones comes through with micros by with a giant Kong and like the whole thing like happens and then like dinner resumes like would not be awesome like they're like at Disneyland today you'll be walking along and suddenly like something happened.
Ash: I will say.
Pat: Guys always work it was always part of your suit with a hat with party Pursuit I'm totally down for the know that shade over here up like so I have to worry about messing up my hair with a hat so I can totally down for wearing a hat with my suits and I want to wear my fancy talks and everything.
Rachel: Genius.
Ash: It's it's not quite the same thing but I have some friends that got married and in the middle of their wedding ceremony somebody bussin with a sword and then the groom pulls out a sword and they had a full-on court and then the bride like also grabs a sword and it was amazing to say.
Pat: That's great.
Zach: Cuz I like is there anyone else who says this wedding should not continue and then a guy comes in with the sword that would be awesome.
Ash: Yeah right it was pretty epic very Epic.
Ash: I have.
Ash: It's.
Zach: What I don't know if any of you been to the Magic Castle in LA but putting on a suit in the end and going there is probably as close to going to the you know to the seaside Club as your eyes okay.
Rachel: Yeah the closest.
Pat: I want to I want to do that.
Ash: That's true.
Zach: It's like going into a magical magical world.
Zach: Yeah.
Zach: Australia.
Zach: Yeah.
Pat: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah.
Zach: Yeah you're right I just like tomorrow as well that little jazz club was awesome and you kind of almost wanted that to be the whole experience.
Rachel: But sometimes you just got to run up a set of stairs after after ding-dang Macker just trying to find out what he's up to what are you doing.
Ash: Well.
Rachel: Oh no.
Ash: Oh no.
Ash: Oh my God.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Rachel: I just.
Zach: Absolutely remember when I went when I went to sleep no more the guy that some people in line with us was this grandfather and his grandson his grandson was like 20 years old and the grandfather was you know look well into his 80s and had sort of no real understanding of why he was there and what was about to happen and any sort of there in this jazz club and he's like oh and then they happen to Aldi in our group in like the sort of minor spoiler alert for sleep no more the first thing that happens is you get in an elevator out of the jazz club and then at least in my experience the elevator stopped at like the first floor in the cage opens and they push out the first person and then close the door and keep going up and the guy they pushed out was the grandfather.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: This isn't for you get here.
Zach: Yeah.
Zach: My God I was like Jen.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Okay I'm sorry but you have to explain to me what this is now cuz I have no idea what you're talking about.
Zach: It's like nothing else.
Ash: Okay yeah yeah.
Ash: Stagehands.
Rachel: Oh my God okay let's I'm going to make this real quick cuz I ain't had a fright a roommate who worked as one of the like sort of like the attendance they weren't in the show but like they were the people that would like stop you from going upstairs or like make sure that bouncers but like yeah kind of like / but it's telling of the play Macbeth completely through like performance art and dance with a little bit of like a novel also thrown into like so weird like other characters beat I can't remember what the other pieces called but like.
Ash: Okay.
Ash: Oh wow.
Rachel: It sort of says like three Loops of the story as you go and like your kind of just wandering around and you might like find like a character and follow them and follow their story or you could just like wander and see what you fall into but like one of the things like the Gathering of the witches is like this really loud like rave music like strobe lights there's like a baptismal font there's a spike of fake fetus in it it's wild it's nuts.
Rachel: Yeah.
Ash: Wow.
Pat: Bro.
Zach: Yeah and like crazy Rave blood-covered naked people like running around and screaming and like it's pretty crazy experience cuz you're this massive building that's three or four stories tall that you can just wander through and every in every room there's maybe something going on with 10 people watching and then that person will run off and do some people will follow and you can choose to follow or not and you know it's been weird one at one point I was like in this room watching this woman just put makeup on with like six other people were all like wondering like is something going to happen and then eventually she eventually she would she like goes to sleep and all the other people left and I'm just like standing in this room with this woman who's sleeping and I'm like okay now I'm feeling creepy like should I leave and then and then the the the Wardrobe opens up and this like man comes that wakes her up and they both walk-in.
Ash: Wow.
Zach: Until like a secret passage that I look so that I'm like okay so that I like to follow them then to this other secret room where there was like this ritual happening like this the whole thing is like a weird experience.
Ash: Wow.
Ash: Wow.
Zach: Yeah I saw that.
Rachel: Oh yeah it's like and there's tons of like secret rooms or like one-on-ones like I know like if you get lucky that an actor will pull you into like a secret room and you'll have like a one-on-one with them like I think there's a nurse and she like talks to you about being a nurse and stuff and like a little hunt off till like the side or there's like an asylum set up and like Lady Macbeth is like having her breakdown and she like gets in a bathtub or there's like an interrogation scene in a long hallway and they just like are doing this like two-person dance would like a swinging lamp it's like it's it's it's like the things.
Rachel: It's walking.
Pat: Oh man.
Rachel: Hopefully hopefully he found the candy station.
Zach: So then imagine I completely lost and disoriented eighty-year-old man walking through.
Pat: We got it.
Rachel: Sleep old man.
Zach: Yeah James Horner.
Ash: This is a short film guys this is a great short film I love it oh my gosh I'm sorry I'm sorry I know we don't need more films well I think I think if we want to get to like our final or final closing thoughts and one thing I'll say to cover is like the cinematography the lighting in the music in this film are all great there so fantastic.
Zach: Great great theme theme music.
Ash: Totally and and Pat fun fact for you mr. Love of Disney World Apparently one of the songs from the film play at Epcot.
Ash: In the around the world oh he's pulling something.
Pat: I believe that.
Ash: Disney out I don't know what this is.
Pat: Where I've been seven Pockets with you since I've been back have I asked.
Pat: On my last trip.
Ash: I know what is I'm scared it looks like a weapon your falling-out oh.
Rachel: Wow.
Pat: It is a weapon the best their greatest weapon in the galaxy.
Zach: Amazing.
Ash: Wow I got himself a lightsaber guys's fellow well the noise.
Pat: Listen to hear that you hear that listening.
Zach: He's now holding a lightsaber I hope he doesn't burn his house down.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Ostensibly ostensibly it's for my daughter but I mean come on.
Rachel: Yeah but she is.
Ash: Is that what you told her.
Pat: I mean we built it together it's a cool it is.
Ash: Yeah right in the man cave.
Zach: That's why it's in here that's the best way it's in in your room in a bag and a bag that she can't open.
Ash: In the corner.
Rachel: That means she'll go to college someday right.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: Wow.
Pat: It is a cool yeah yeah it's heavy man these things are it like that it's like but it's a it's a whole thing when you go to like Galaxy's Edge and like you go through the lightsaber Academy training and like this the actress to it it's a whole ordeal and like you picked a different pieces and put them together and you you pick your kyber Crystal like what color you want and stuff.
Ash: Oh yeah know you had a pretty great.
Zach: Yeah.
Rachel: Beautiful.
Pat: Yeah nice cool they they do it update there yeah.
Pat: We just missed each other by week.
Rachel: Wow.
Ash: Oh my gosh.
Zach: Actually was at I was very lucky to go to the opening of Galaxy's edge with like Harrison Ford and George Lucas and like I was there with all the fireworks and then when they cut the ribbon and all that stuff it was pretty amazing.
Pat: It was soap.
Ash: Did you get to meet any of them or were you just there like in the audience.
Pat: Oh very cool.
Ash: That's cool.
Rachel: Wow.
Ash: Wow.
Zach: I didn't get to meet them know I was in the audience and I got to meet Frank Marshall and Kathleen Kennedy.
Pat: Lava Cantina.
Ash: But so cool.
Rachel: I meant they were so impressed to meet someone who's worked on Fraggle Rock you know like they are losing their mind.
Ash: I know I was going to say like did you drop the Fraggle Rock.
Rachel: Awkward.
Zach: They asked for a photo and an autograph and I was just you know how to play the cool and you know what I could for them.
Rachel: Hey hey.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah really guys guys guys I'm here on Pleasure not works you know.
Pat: Your very self you're very Singer self okay you guys like seriously be a professional.
Rachel: Tell me more about the Doozers.
Ash: He pulls out the one he has carried around.
Zach: Definitely.
Pat: Make a necklace out of it it's only like a Foot Locker stock.
Rachel: Put it put it put it on your charm bracelet at the dinner Club.
Ash: Yeah you go there you go.
Zach: I will.
Ash: Yeah I think I think this field was pretty good I don't have a lot of negative to say about it I feel like it was I mean there's the whole like damsel-in-distress thing but you know.
Rachel: Yeah.
Ash: It's a movie from the 90s that's about the 30s so.
Pat: Would you say the Jenny was a prize at any point in this.
Ash: You know I was thinking about that cuz.
Pat: Got you covered Sam if you're listening Sam we got you covered.
Zach: I mean.
Rachel: Yeah.
Zach: Yeah.
Ash: I know I was thinking about that in like I don't really feel like I guess you could make the argument that she was the prize cuz he was going to swap this the thing for her but like it didn't quite feel that way it felt more like Damsel in Distress and not necessarily like women as prize.
Ash: Right.
Pat: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah cuz I think for me that distinction really lives in a is she a prize that you're winning for the first time considering that these two are already in an established like romantic relationship it feels less like he's winning her as a prize and more like their relationship is expanding through this ordeal.
Ash: Yeah and I just want to say you said he's a shity boyfriend but he comes and sees her cheating on him and he's like I don't care I'm just really worried about you that's kind of romantic as f*** man.
Pat: That's good he did growth.
Zach: I loved I love that soup thing I thought that 15 was so fun.
Ash: Yeah yeah.
Pat: Yes.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Zach: And he's like where's your boyfriend and she's like oh I don't know he's he's having some harebrained scheme right now he's standing there like I thought that was ripped that was very funny.
Ash: I hear you.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Yeah it was more the date that motivated me to write that note down for myself there to their date where was like it just felt very like you can come to my one likes airplane shows like I was working at this like berry-like hard industry to break into and I made some traction and I get you I'm getting cast in Studio Productions and you wanted me to come.
Pat: To your air show out in the in the valley nowhere in with 50 people and watching make $50 like come on I get it.
Rachel: Yeah also.
Zach: I think the bigger to me the bigger issue with the movie I mean definitely.
Rachel: Oh yeah.
Ash: Good good poems.
Ash: No.
Pat: I think.
Zach: It has its its Standalone some distress Miss but I couldn't see a single person that wasn't white in the entire fence.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah that's a great point.
Rachel: No.
Zach: Ends and I think that's probably the biggest thing to say that is wrong with it more than you could at least she knocks him over the head a few times at least she you know I'll wait salmon sort of you know gets out of the situations and she has her moments but yeah but the lack of representation was was pretty shocking.
Ash: That's for sure.
Zach: It was the 90s.
Pat: Just a lot of middle-aged white men.
Ash: Yeah it's.
Rachel: It was it was it was the 90s representing the thirties there yet it's a boy it's it's almost like you could say this kind of stuff is systemic.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah I'm glad we finally found a word for it thank you.
Rachel: It's like it's like it's an institution.
Rachel: Didn't like the code of Lake this country I guess you know.
Zach: Exactly.
Pat: So many middle-aged white men.
Rachel: Yeah I'm sorry that Jennifer Connelly couldn't get away to go see the airshow cuz they're just filming this movie in order.
Ash: Kia.
Rachel: Play she couldn't get away they weren't just like putting her in like her blocked feeds there is like no we're doing it like a play it's fine first going through the whole movie Just filming it as we go.
Rachel: I'll never get over that I don't work if I don't work at the cinema but I'm like I know that's not how you make movies.
Rachel: I know that's incorrect.
Pat: I mean I don't know cuz it I didn't obviously do so I'm telling you one scene cool like through the mountains like the mountains of Southern California dog fight with a couple biplanes with those like those like machine guns at like time up with the propeller shoot between the propeller blades to fit that the soup and threw like a canyon he like he's more Nimble than they are so we can kind of get around and maybe doesn't even need a gun he's this is like taking them off and like was like soup around come up behind her out or something very Dynamic I think that does a lot for this movie.
Ash: Do you want Captain America the First Avenger I think right.
Pat: Butts.
Zach: Indiana Jones 3.
Pat: That was my 10 things like I need to do more some more at least one more more Dynamic action scene which is again I understand it's hard but you have all the elements there you've already got these planes already shown you're doing stuff with them.
Ash: Spare.
Pat: That's it for me.
Rachel: Yeah I'm thinking about how fun the action sequences are in a movie like The Mummy which came out shortly after this like how.
Rachel: Yeah.
Pat: The 97 or something or.
Ash: I think it was it yeah it looks like 6 years later.
Rachel: Yeah but like even that doesn't doesn't have like big epic fly thingies but like their action set-pieces are very.
Rachel: Complex in a way that I think could be done.
Rachel: In The Rocketeer.
Rachel: Given the city's the same amount of tools you know but it just yeah if they do play a very safe with like the fight choreography and the sequencing.
Rachel: It's fine though I had fun.
Ash: Is that all of your final thoughts Rachel.
Ash: I know they were saving.
Zach: Well we we we could have we could have wished for a sequel and then we would have had all those all the things we hope for it to that all they doing a sequel is throw money more more money added and bigger sequences and all that stuff.
Zach: Hopefully it's in the cartoon.
Ash: Yeah.
Rachel: Yeah my final thought is I'm I'm just really glad that they filmed this movie and order you know.
Ash: Yeah totally.
Rachel: Never get over that pretty impressive how they just filmed this in order you know just like turn the camera on do the whole thing great stuff.
Pat: Oh yeah Rachel they had to because at the final scene when the rocket jet pack explodes how are they filmed any other scenes with it after I blew up so you had to film that last.
Rachel: Are they going to see you at 8. Destroyed yeah the hollywoodland sign got messed up at the end like.
Pat: Yeah that's only we only getting one take it that.
Rachel: Only get that one time.
Rachel: Oh yeah.
Pat: Oh I'm sure.
Ash: To be fair there have been actual feature films filmed in order just to be fair it happens occasionally.
Zach: Like etet was going order.
Ash: Really I didn't know that wow.
Zach: Yeah yeah he wanted it cuz he wanted them to basically fall in love and then the last time they ever CT is when they say goodbye.
Rachel: Wow.
Ash: Wow that's really powerful.
Pat: Way2go Steve manipulating children's emotions.
Ash: Like he does.
Zach: Yeah that's what he's a master at.
Rachel: Via puppets you love it.
Ash: I will use that.
Rachel: More puppets in this one thank you.
Ash: Yeah there you go we just need more puppy.
Pat: The puppeteer.
Zach: My final thoughts.
Rachel: Zap it was sap.
Pat: That.
Zach: That.
Ash: Exactly how about your final the Puppeteer directed by Zack or zip.
Zach: That was pretty cool Final thoughts I think it's definitely never seen it it's definitely worth a watch it's a very fun movie don't expect deep deep you know character Arc don't expect a deep theme but it's very very fun very very kind of well-done I think well-acted great villain great visual effects the sequences that were there I thought I totally bought an incident in fact some of them sort of in that old movie style like I was I was at the planes I just was in that you could tell they were actually doing it and it really kind of like that would have been even better but.
Zach: When I say hey you should check out the scrap then I will tell them to listen to this episode and will prove them wrong.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: You can say well I did guest on a podcast where we talk about it.
Zach: Definitively we figured it out.
Ash: Yes.
Zach: We said all there is to be sad about.
Zach: For sure.
Ash: Zack thank you so much for joining us is there any place where you want to direct people to have like a website or social media I didn't even talk about the fact that Zack makes one of my favorite filmmaking apps which is called shot Lister which I will plug it for you if you are planning to shoot a movie download shot Lister and build your shot list and your schedule with it it's incredible but Zack where can they follow you.
Zach: Yeah.
Pat: Have you created a film or shot Lister.
Ash: Oh yeah no no I have used.
Pat: Eddie created an award-winning film using shot Lister.
Ash: I have created multiple award-winning films using shot Lister thank you very much sex thank you.
Ash: Build-it-yourself.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: Well I will pimp ashes review of charlastor which is one of the better videos explaining how to use the app so if you're the app is free can check it out on on iOS for free and then head over to Ashley's Channel what's the name of your channel but I'm sure you can put all the time tell me yourself she tells you everything you need to know it's awesome video for me people can check me out exactly buffsuki although I might have to create a zap lipovsky Instagram.
Ash: It'll be like you're evil villain twin version.
Ash: Perfect for spooky season.
Zach: Yeah. It again and check out my latest on freaks on Netflix it's a very fun genre-bending thriller so you like the rocketeria like Freaks and.
Zach: Yeah good for it's not too scary but it's scary enough and yeah other than that crap on all the different social media platforms.
Ash: And Zach actually has shot a film in order at a short film in order all in time Rachel.
Ash: All in one take.
Ash: And it's very good.
Rachel: I love that.
Zach: Messer I didn't I did do a film that's all-in-one take so that's pretty fun very sort of inspired by the same type of stuff yet they seen action adventure movie all in one take in a neighborhood.
Pat: Very cool.
Ash: Yeah it's very fun.
Zach: Call crazy lady.
Zach: I think so.
Ash: And you can you find that on YouTube I think I think that's where I saw it yeah definitely worth the watch check it out.
Zach: That was one of my first films ever made.
Ash: Which is very impressive for a first film.
Rachel: That is that's wow.
Zach: Very fun.
Ash: Yeah it's it's good Rachel there's like it's basically an entire like like neighborhood that is like part of this film and we go from house to house we get like we follow car like it's all sorts of it's very like orchestrated it's very impressive but speaking of Rachel thank you for filling Brett and Sam shoes.
Pat: You're hired.
Ash: They're fired you're hired.
Rachel: Oh my gosh thank you for letting me come I'll take it no no way no no no no no we all we all got to be on the network together we awkward if thank you all.
Rachel: Oh well we're swapping oh oh cool that's fine.
Ash: That's okay they can be on Matt's you know Moby on-screen snark with Matt you can come yeah well just switch Yeah Yeah.
Pat: I mean Brett has enough snark to go around 4.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Rachel: Show called smart we are really sweet we're like sweet babies over there like we're not particularly smart key at all.
Ash: But do you have any socials that you want to play.
Rachel: I do yes if you liked any of these human mouth garbage I just said out loud I write a lot of mouths garbage via the hill site twitter. Com you can find me at IM Rachel Corky and if you if you like listening to my thoughts about movies about superheroes please check out my podcast of the infinity podcast the number one Infinity podcast in the world all about the correlation between popular comics and popular culture I host that with my buddy Scott Thomas good time we have to talk a lot about aew wrestling now sorry we fell into that hole and it's it's a whole thing.
Ash: Oh well.
Pat: I am never the wrestling Fed so many people on my Twitter timeline are wrestling fans I'm like.
Zach: Chestnut.
Ash: Interesting.
Rachel: Oh my gosh ew ew is the Renaissance of pro-wrestling you like it is the.
Pat: I just see it every fourth tweet is wrestling related.
Zach: Iowa Iowa.
Rachel: It's so good Tony Khan and like heading Omega have just made a really good promotion.
Ash: Wow.
Zach: I want made a movie for WWE wrestling and got sucked into that whole world and I will tell you that is an incredible world that I didn't know very much about it but once you sort of fall into it you realize how many millions of people really are into into that world and it and it's pretty amazing like I was I would walk down the street with a wrestler.
Ash: Oh wow.
Zach: And everywhere we went no matter where we went people would be screaming and shouting and waving and you don't like it it's it's pretty crazy.
Pat: I've heard it described to me before is like superhero soap opera.
Ash: Oh that's a great description.
Rachel: Yes it's yeah it's superhero soap opera and the way they tell the story is through really amazing stunts.
Pat: Nice.
Rachel: Like just like the stuff that they do with their bodies.
Ash: Wow yeah.
Rachel: It's it's wild I love it.
Rachel: Fighting with my family.
Ash: Wow yeah I've never watched like a normal wrestling but I saw wrestling with my family I think that's what the movies called fighting with my family yeah that is also really good and sort of like I was like wow there's a lot to this world that I didn't know about really interesting.
Pat: Nice.
Ash: Wow.
Zach: Although I did go to I went to SummerSlam which is like one of the main you know WWE like events and set up in the booth with all the wrestlers and stuff and watching wrestling.
Zach: Watching wrestling without hearing the announcers because when you're in the actual Stadium.
Zach: You don't hear any of the announcers cuz they're all down like at the tables at the.
Rachel: Yeah cuz they're doing they're doing the broadcast like so the people at home.
Ash: Yeah.
Zach: So you're all your hearing is like yours Watching Two Guys in an arena go back and forth and it's not as good as very key.
Zach: Yes it is much more brutal much more brutal.
Rachel: Oh I I deeply disagree I was just at A&W Dynamite at Arthur Ashe here in here in my neighborhood of Queens New York and one of my favorite things was minus the announcers you got to hear the bodies like really like slamming like when they hit that canvas and it just like.
Ash: Oh wow.
Ash: Boom body boom.
Rachel: I was I was way up high I'm sorry we've just weave devault I was so up high it's just to talk about wrestling and what was wild was I was so I was all the way up at the top of the stadium so I watch the body drop and then heard the sound so like the Sonic would like it was nut and nothing and there's nothing like watching like Paul White formerly The Big Show silencing an audience of 20 000 people so you can hear him just like slap his opponent on the chest it ruled it was amazing.
Rachel: Sorry.
Ash: Well.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: That's a great I love I love it I love the passion.
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Pat: Mitch.
Ash: It was Mitch good job Mitch we also had DJ from Comics Quest also guessed it correctly Jade be sorry.
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Pat: He.
Zach: Djjj.
Ash: Listen she could be a DJ of comics she could be she said and of course case also said that he loves this movie so sorry j. D. I was reading very fast off of Twitter listen it's already been established that I'm very bad at names Zapdos what I'm talking about.
Pat: Zappos.
Zach: No I think I might case you improved my name so I'm pretty I'm pretty happy.
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Zach: I was like like I don't think that's what it's called.
Ash: Alright well.
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