Clerks with Taylor Morden

This week, we’re watching a movie about a round, hairy, grumpy animal who hates Monday’s and isn’t satisfied with Lasagna anymore. That’s right, it’s Clerks, with Taylor Morden, director of The Last Blockbuster, streaming now!

Starring Ash Blodgett, Bret Eagleston, Samantha Willson and Pat Edwards

This week, we're watching a movie about a round, hairy, grumpy animal who hates Monday's and isn't satisfied with Lasagna anymore. That's right, it's Clerks, with Taylor Morden, director of The Last Blockbuster, streaming now! Starring Ash Blodgett, Bret Eagleston, Samantha Willson, and Pat Edwards

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Bret: Welcome to another episode of let's re-watch the show we watch movies that we loved in our youth and find out if they're still any good.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Bret: Yeah that was a we're getting so good at that intro guys.

Pat: Yeah it's like a put electric pepper on that.

Ash: We're getting the still good at saying our own names.

Bret: You would be surprised at how bad we are saying our names Ash.

Bret: Sometimes it's like 20 minutes of editing and I'm like oh s*** like finally did we finally get through the intro oh my God so here we are right at the beginning.

Ash: To be fair we only have one word you have more words to be funny but I'm very excited about today are you excited about today.

Ash: Westside Auto.

Pat: I'm so excited about today Brett's dying apparently I don't know I was about to make it say this is the fastest who gone off the rails it's not though this not that it's not even know.

Sam: Show on the rail Springs.

Pat: We have a great guest Ash and Ash introduced our amazing guess.

Ash: Yes we're very excited to have a Taylor Morton on the podcast he is a documentary filmmaker director what else are you Taylor tell them about everything you do.

Taylor: I just recently had to write a short bio and I went with former third grade spelling bee Champion failed musician turned independent filmmaker.

Ash: Wow yeah hey same.

Sam: So you like to fail upwards then.

Taylor: I can't wait to see what I do when I fail at my next film.

Ash: Well I have to say I have seen your most recent film the last Blockbuster and I absolutely loved it it was so great.

Ash: Yeah I've now want to go to the last Blockbuster and I'm so excited that they're still around even despite covid-19.

Taylor: Spoiler alert for the Moon.

Pat: Where can people watch your film Taylor.

Taylor: I thought we now digitally iTunes Amazon Google Play Fandango Voodoo cable and satellite stuff and then it's on DVD and Blu-ray at Blockbuster Video so you can make it there.

Ash: Wow you can make it to the one the one single one.

Taylor: If you live in my neighborhood you can go rent it at Blockbuster.

Bret: TV was advertising it to us for a bit there.

Ash: How do you live in the same neighborhood as the last Blockbuster.

Taylor: It's about a mile away.

Ash: Bow wow that's amazing that's so cool I highly recommend the film anybody who remembers you know if you're under if you're a youngin just turn off the podcast now but anyway.

Sam: It was like Redbox but a whole store.

Ash: It was a whole thing.

Pat: Redbox you can go inside.

Ash: Lecrae.

Taylor: Yeah I like to say it's like if Netflix was a place.

Ash: Yes yes.

Bret: Netflix is a place.

Ash: Right yeah.

Bret: Video.

Pat: There was a time if you if a movie was out on your home video it wasn't a given that you could watch it anytime you wanted it was a go to stores like all they're all out its will rent twister again.

Ash: I I didn't have in my local town I don't think we had a blockbuster we had a Hollywood Video do we have a blockbuster Brett.

Sam: Yes it was by the Walmart.

Ash: No that was that was Hollywood Video.

Pat: I worked at the hours counterculture.

Sam: Do the Blockbuster was by the Target.

Ash: Yes it was by Walmart.

Bret: Yeah there is one of each about the big one was the the home via the small mom-and-pop video stop.

Ash: Oh no.

Sam: What's the only joy in my childhood Ash the only joy I lived up at the mountains by the lake there was no internet barely at cell service all I had was that Hollywood Video guess you're right.

Sam: Ocean.

Pat: I worked at a Hollywood Video cuz I'm a rebel and I don't go with the flow with a conformist and we had where I live there's a Hollywood Video kitty corner from a blockbuster so it's like Turf wash it there is across they were like diagonal across the intersection.

Sam: Did you put like dog poo in each other's drop boxes and s*** like that.

Pat: Can we just hang out smoke weed after we closed at midnight we are with each other.

Sam: Sound like a rivalry.

Ash: Are you basically did the movie that we're going to watch with your real life.

Bret: We still have some Hollywood Video DVDs.

Sam: Yeah Hollywood Video still owes me like 1995 for my like monthly unlimited rentals cuz.

Pat: A weird thing.

Ash: I think you could get that I think you could still you know just give him a call.

Pat: At least mine to the thing we're like separated the game that made the video game store and made it like it's own kind of store with its own entrance and.

Ash: Right that's why I brought it up is because like what I was watching the documentary I was I had Hollywood Video and that was the one that I went to and my boyfriend went to Blockbuster and I was like do you remember the video game rental section and I don't know if Blockbuster did it but Hollywood Video totally had like this whole separate section for video games.

Bret: All that you know that people is that managers or just thinking you know I clientele or high-class they come in here for family entertainment or pornography we can't have any of those crusty video Gamers hanging out in the aisles looking at that Lara Croft.

Pat: I just remember because the manager I forgot what the name was cuz it had its own name the Hollywood video video game section but the manager at work that he also was like all about he had his own record label lays on hip hop record label.

Bret: Wow.

Sam: Was he a white guy.

Ash: Of course.

Pat: Of course.

Taylor: P**** was.

Ash: Of course.

Sam: Chef's kiss meme.

Sam: So good.

Bret: Speaking speaking of movies at movie stores what are we watching today.

Ash: I was Game Crazy by the way what's the name of the store I look today.

Pat: Yes do me to do it since I'm hosting.

Ash: Yeah you are house are you hosting.

Bret: Yes that was that was that was the handoff to The Host.

Pat: Why are you asking me to do it I'm not even supposed to be here today.

Ash: Oh you got me with our.

Pat: Watching Clark's Clark's Clark's I just like really I don't remember I don't know if everyone seen it before so I was like.

Sam: Why is seem part of it.

Ash: This will be interesting this will be interesting then yeah we did a movie poll we took a bunch of Taylor suggestions and clerks one gosh I think last time I checked was like 34 35.

Ash: Good pick everybody.

Bret: Yeah it was it was pretty close.

Pat: I mean just it just goes past Mallrats.

Pat: I mean.

Pat: Blowout.

Taylor: If you combine those folks into the to The View askewniverse.

Ash: Yes overall Kevin Smith.

Pat: So I take it Taylor like myself.

Pat: Especially in their Prime and you were quite the Kevin Smith fan Mallrats clerks Chasing Amy.

Ash: Why would you think that.

Pat: Well cuz he suggested above saying I feel like also is just guys of that age was just it was a very if you wanted to be creative stop psychologist.

Ash: Size of that age and me as we've established.

Pat: Yes.

Pat: But yeah but those are movies that was just one of those things were I feel like everyone's like these are so great this is new modern real film in his art but it's like raw and it's like the pseudo the pseudo deep Bro stuff but I think I'm going to enjoy it but obviously I assume you have a little bit of a history.

Taylor: I mean definitely that it was one of the movies I rented the most back in the day it was like like you were saying about twister whatever if if the movie I wanted wasn't in I guess I'll rent clerks again or Mallrats or Chasing Amy but yeah at that time you know it was like the Indie movie that that made good right.

Pat: Yeah it.

Taylor: So for me like as a filmmaker was one of the things that was because even at that young age I think I was like 13 when I came out it was like oh I can tell this isn't like those other movies you know this isn't like Jurassic Park I don't know why cuz I'm a kid with black and white but I can tell it's less expensive so then maybe I could do that.

Pat: You're not alone in that sense of it of do you know who told Kevin Smith that this clerks was the movie that made him want to be a filmmaker was Jason Reitman.

Ash: Really.

Pat: Yes Ivan Reitman son.

Ash: Wow wow.

Pat: But he wasn't interested in.

Taylor: Blue passed all of his dad's movies with straight to Clerks.

Ash: Not really interested in that but this.

Sam: Who is this I'm sorry.

Pat: Which one Jason Drive.

Sam: I don't know either one.

Sam: Okay okay okay.

Pat: Ivan Reitman Ghostbusters Stripes like Wild Bill Murray Vehicles Jason Reitman did Thank You for Smoking Junot directed I'll tell you.

Taylor: He's doing the new Ghostbusters that's not out yet.

Ash: Right yeah yeah.

Pat: Ended up in the air.

Bret: Son of Ghostbusters.

Ash: Yes he did do Juno.

Pat: He hasn't he is a producer on up in the air the George Clooney.

Ash: Good things he does good things is what the point.

Pat: The airplane businessman yeah so clerks came out in 94 and as everyone probably knows Kevin Smith has the writer and the director of it and I Taylor you already looted so we're going to jump right into budget game and it's Taylor Taylor as you already.

Bret: Daily.

Taylor: What's the first that's a brand new one I've gotten Tyler my whole life I've never gotten dahler that's amazing.

Ash: Taylor.

Pat: As useless as you said.

Taylor: Fighter of the Night lyrics.

Pat: You mentioned it it's one of those it's really well known as like a low budget Indie movie that made good I want to see if anyone knows just how good.

Ash: I got into Sundance right didn't get into Sundance.

Taylor: Maybe I'll go last yeah.

Pat: Let's do this let's do this game so what's everyone's budget you might know you might have it on hand so tell you go last.

Ash: Taylor might have the huge Advantage here because he has made future films.

Pat: Who wants to go first with their budget.

Sam: 17000.

Ash: That's not bad that's not bad at 20000.

Ash: What's the max because I do know that he paid for it on credit card so what's the max amount of credit line you can have.

Pat: Depends on who you are.

Sam: Really depends it depends on the year.

Ash: Cuz it could be.

Taylor: Fun fact you can also have more than one credit card.

Ash: This is true okay I'm sticking with 20000.

Bret: I'm sorry what.

Pat: Yes are you Mexican if there's a big difference if your me or Jay-Z what your max credit card limit.

Taylor: Very true.

Bret: I feel like I don't know but like just thinking back to when we were trying to do stuff for no money and how many people were in this and like.

Bret: Maybe didn't even get paid I don't know.

Sam: Sure nobody got paid.

Ash: Yeah I don't I don't think the actors got paid those for sure.

Bret: So yeah I feel like the envelope thousands is a good thing it was did somebody say 10 I was going to go even 10.

Ash: I didn't know nobody said 10 yet that was the I was I was like 10 or 20 I think it's 10 or 20.

Pat: 17 Samuel 17:24 at time Taylor.

Taylor: So I am probably remembering it wrong I've heard it before because while I haven't seen this movie in a long time I have watched all the special features many times in my life and I think it was either 30 or 35 thousand and I think you're alright about the actors not getting paid but you got to remember film was very expensive in the early 90s.

Ash: Alright they shot on film bright.

Bret: Actual film.

Taylor: It was an actual film even those black-and-white because it was cheaper.

Ash: Right right.

Taylor: I might be wrong but I think that's right.

Ash: By the way guys Kevin Smith is Aiden Taylor's film.

Ash: So did you eat did you talk to him about Clerks.

Bret: Nike make sense.

Taylor: I have met him we did not talk no not really I mean we talked mostly about his time working at a video store because we were talking about video stores and so he did write clerk while he was working at the video store that you see in the movie so it did did come up a little bit.

Pat: So you think 30 or 35.

Ash: Winter clothes.

Taylor: Yeah I guess I'll go with 35.

Pat: Are you going to tie with Ash because it's right down the middle between you two guesses at 27000.

Ash: Nice.

Taylor: Should have gone with 30.

Ash: Go to the fake injuries.

Ash: Haha.

Pat: And yes as you are correct he paid for it with Maxine on all his credit cards borrowing $3000 from his parents and also he use settlement money or insurance money from he had a car that he know but he had a car that he shared with Jason Mewes who plays Jay who the car got swept away by a flood it was part by Acker Riverbank or there they lived in New Jersey.

Pat: And they got an insurance payout and instead of put that towards like a new car they put it towards this phone.

Ash: Yeah functional you can definitely ride film to work.

Bret: What comes on those big wheels.

Pat: Who wants to guess what it grossed at the at the box office.

Sam: Did it actually release in in theaters or was it like.

Pat: Yeah Miramax picked it up.

Ash: Oh yeah cuz it got into Sundance and that and that's really key to the success of the film.

Pat: What you be surprised it only or I'll save this piece after we tell you the number is actually really impressive but it did compared considering I'll tell you it but yes Miramax picked it up and it got.

Sam: Just because it gets picked up at Sundance doesn't always mean it gets a theatrical release especially nowadays with streaming so that's pretty cool for then.

Ash: Right but back then it was a pretty big deal.

Taylor: Yeah this one did but are you asking for theatrical or total gross cuz I think I did way better on home video.

Ash: Gross Pat.

Pat: I'm saying whatever the gross USA was for whatever IMDb uses.

Pat: I'll give you a clue remember remember the whole point of this film like when its biggest calling card was like how successful it was for how she was doing a budget it was.

Ash: How to say 60.

Sam: 60 that's bold I was going to say.

Ash: 60000.

Ash: No it's got to be more than that I think it made a lot more than that yeah.

Bret: It's in the millions I think it's probably like it's probably not like major huge movies numbers but it may be made like 25 mil.

Sam: I was going to kiss 30ml but I'm sure I'm way off.

Ash: That sounds great USA 35 sorry Taylor.

Taylor: That was that was my Price is Right Move I was going to be 31 but now I'll do 36 just.

Pat: Y'all have the decimal just in the wrong spot it was just 3. 1 million but again.

Pat: But it only did that it only get released on 50 screens and it still did 3. 1 million.

Bret: Oh that's like knowing that made a lot of money for being nowhere.

Ash: Yeah good for him.

Pat: When you consider it.

Bret: I was imagining like Nationwide release.

Bret: 50 screens.

Pat: This is also in Arrowood Miramax doesn't have the best name I feel like.

Sam: True Grit what year is this we didn't cover 94 okay.

Pat: 94's.

Taylor: So that is just the ethical.

Ash: Yeah.

Taylor: Cuz I know you know from the anecdotally that it's it was a very successful home video like DVD Sales & rentals.

Pat: Oh I mean yeah it's it's this is definitely one of those Emily gets used a lot I feel like the term but this is a cult classic for sure it is it's got his following I mean is Ben all the follow-up Kevin Smith is done and I don't know if anyone else I'm assuming Taylor you probably know this but there was a clerks Animated Series in 2000.

Bret: Oh yeah I seen that.

Taylor: There are action figures and I do have.

Pat: What's crazy is you wonder why who is making these decisions so they only created 6 episodes only two of them ever aired originally before was canceled but they didn't hear them in order they aired 4th episode 1st.

Pat: Anime are the second episode which relied heavily on flashbacks to the first episode which had not been aired.

Sam: Solid release plan.

Taylor: But it's another one of those DVD things that was also a clerks comic book that was before or after the cartoon.

Bret: I miss the comic book completely.

Taylor: I found one I found one of those at a thrift store not too long ago and it was signed by Kevin Smith at the first pick a stack of 10 of them they were all second but you paid 9 of them.

Pat: And Taylor's you said you alluded to Kevin Smith actually worked at so there's that little it's a little too front strip or there's two there's a there's a convenience store in the video rental store and he worked there both are owned in real life by the same people the same family.

Ash: Okay.

Pat: I guess their employees would kind of be interchangeable and hot between the two and as needed you work there and they let him shoot there but only at nights when the stores were closed so they shot 421 Street nights he would clock in at 6 a. M. Finish working at 11 p. M. And then shoot till 4 a. M. After which you would try to sleep like an hour or two.

Ash: Cheese wow.

Ash: Right.

Taylor: Which is why fun fact the shutters are closed so they could get away with shooting day for night interior.

Taylor: They pretended it was daytime but they had to shut close the shutter so you'd be able to tell.

Taylor: That's why they.

Pat: Otherwise Black and White 2.

Pat: Black and white cuz it's easier and also it's cheaper for like lighting purposes.

Taylor: Film cost half as much to develop to.

Ash: Yeah to develop totally.

Ash: Where do you know where this was shot exactly.

Pat: In Leonardo New Jersey.

Taylor: Leonardo New Jersey.

Ash: Okay so are you just say that I just wasn't listening.

Ash: So cool.

Taylor: Like last year he made another movie and they had to rebuild it so they built those two stores again for the reboot Jay and Silent Bob reboot and I think yeah I think they're using him again he's doing clerks 3 now but it was like cheaper to build these two stores then to fly everyone to New Jersey.

Taylor: Yes.

Bret: That's hilarious that's quite a change in the budgetary situation.

Sam: He's working with Marvel now right.

Taylor: He's been writing comics for them for a while.

Taylor: I don't know if he's.

Pat: Yeah I mean he got his he got a little Easter egg in Captain Marvel cuz there's Stan Lee's cameo in Captain Marvel he's reading the Mallrats script which makes a cameo Stan Lee make a cameo in.

Taylor: Because in 1990 whenever he would have been reading metscript that's great.

Sam: He's also doing he man now.

Taylor: Yeah with Mark Hamill as Skeletor.

Taylor: Very excited.

Sam: Yes that's magic that's Magic.

Pat: Is that animated or they're doing like live-action with like effects.

Pat: I said for that did not know that at all.

Bret: That's when I got to work on the pitch for.

Sam: But no I don't know if yes I don't know if it's still the same that was the very week.

Bret: I doubt it's that was so early but yeah.

Ash: Well that's so cool.

Pat: And then what were you guys are talking about actors and so so there are 50 credited actors in this.

Ash: What I'm sorry I don't remember that many people in this movie.

Bret: Remember like five.

Pat: Only two had at least one film credit before appearing in this movie.

Pat: The other 48 made the first on-screen appearance and most of them would become so I guess this says most only some would become regular faces and Kevin Smith films but many have never been done.

Pat: Take a different flavor to it in the current ERA but so.

Pat: This feeling really was going to get an NC-17 rating.

Pat: Just for the language cuz there's no Vine.

Ash: Really the end though but the end though.

Bret: What's the latest talk about it.

Taylor: But they don't they just talk about it.

Pat: Yeah.

Ash: I know but think about like 1994 you know.

Pat: No but this says explicitly mainly just to write the content of the language of the dialogue to talk about so.

Taylor: 37 dicks.

Pat: Miramax.

Bret: That I feel like that was way more explicit.

Pat: 7 x in a row line is what made me relax so a guy at some whoever was there another trivia whoever was reading it at Miramax stopped started laughing out loud at that line and immediately got up stop reading walk to the vp's office and was like here we need to pick this movie up based on like that.

Pat: Miramax.

Taylor: Why not.

Ash: So you just need to write a film with 38 fix.

Bret: Mordex more better.

Pat: Like I said like I said once Sam becomes a big-time producer I'm just going to write the script with lots of pants splitting open scenes and I know I'll get the green light.

Ash: Hahaha.

Pat: So.

Sam: Is My Kryptonite putting their pants over and is really funny.

Sam: Actual lawyer.

Pat: Solicitous Miramax to get it to fight to get it down to an art hired Alan dershowitz to Kia's was on the OJ Simpson defense team he is also more recently more recently he's been with tent only connect.

Bret: Fun fun fun fun fun fun.

Ash: All around good guy.

Pat: But yeah and he got it lowered it to an AR.

Pat: That's why I said that gets weird now and like retrospect.

Taylor: Yeah it would be PG-13.

Ash: Can you imagine hiring like a lawyer to negotiate the rating on your phone is that a thing that you've ever had to do.

Taylor: No because it cost a lot of money to get a film rated at all and so I've never minor all unrated.

Ash: Yeah.

Taylor: You know I wouldn't care I mean in 2021 we don't care what the rating is it's just for Midwestern soccer moms to not let the kids watch I think.

Bret: I just said the rating system is so bizarre out cuz like the one that immediately Pops to mind is you note the all the James Bonds being all PG and I was like we watch that one on the show or it's like he punched a woman and assaulted her and if he G film and they're going to get NC-17 for talking about dicks like what.

Pat: Yeah I mean no it's definitely that I feel like that was my upbringing and my parents are like way more chill with me seeing like crazy violence and gun fights and sword fights and people getting murdered left and right but God forbid I see sex.

Taylor: Or someone safe.

Sam: I mean that's the American way right like we're perpetually and War violence is okay we don't do anything pleasurable.

Ash: Do we have a Puritan history you know that is branded into us.

Pat: You're right. I am okay yeah I'm okay see having my child watch someone get their head cut off but I'll be damned if they see at it.

Pat: So my last alarm pre-roll tidbit here is at.

Pat: Kevin Smith says he got his inspiration to be a filmmaker and make clerks after seeing Richard linklater's slacker witch from 1990.

Sam: Has not seen that.

Ash: I haven't seen that one oh yeah.

Taylor: What I just watched I just watched it for the first time because some that came up and some conversation is like I should really watch that movie cuz I I consider clerks the movie that made me want to make movies sounds like I should watch that and I did not enjoy slacker at all.

Taylor: It's boring and nothing happens.

Taylor: It's a real Slice of Life which I guess is why people liked it but it's like just normal. I think by today's standards is just slow and nonsensical.

Pat: I do remember people like my junior high who were #deep who like love slacker and I tried to watch it and like this is stupid this sucks and I stood. I've never fixed it.

Taylor: It's like a series of Indie short films that are not really connected like one character will walk out of one scene and then into the next scene and then leave and then it's a short and then one person from that will walk into the next scene and leave and another short will happen.

Pat: Ass.

Ash: I have to admit that I had a similar experience with the movie Chinatown which I know is blasphemy for a filmmaker to say but I tried watching it and I was like this movie is so slow compared to date standards.

Ash: Play God.

Pat: I'm with you I'm like I watched it within I watched it within the last 5-6 years I saw it and I was like this is just kind of like.

Sam: I like Chinatown.

Pat: Okay and it's not it's not like an old movie by us.

Bret: That's definitely like a style difference for sure because like I want a movie that's slow as s*** all the time.

Pat: No but I mean I just watched I watched literally like a week ago and it's been forever I watch Casablanca and that movie f****** rules still.

Sam: You still haven't seen it.

Ash: I haven't seen that one yeah I need to.

Ash: You got it now hear it here it go.

Pat: I liked it a lot but no doubt chinatown's ending unlike and like I feel like Chinatown. The area of the city Chinatown doesn't really play it's been awhile so please Garfield PL go ahead and add me tell me I'm wrong Twitter go ahead but but I feel like the neighborhood Chinatown doesn't really play that big a factor in the plot.

Bret: The metaphor.

Ash: And it's also. Just like I'm sorry welcome to her many trying to town podcast of it's not just like the pace of the film like most of the blocking is just people sitting and talking like they're not even moving and so like the.

Sam: I don't remember any sitting and talking I clearly need to re-watch this movie.

Bret: It has been several years.

Ash: Oh there's a lot of it there's a lot of.

Sam: The movie that the old movie that is like highly regarded that I was just like what for me was The Graduate.

Ash: Really interesting.

Sam: I think I was expecting something way off base.

Bret: People people talk that one up before we watched it then.

Ash: I think that's another one though that like if it's at the time when that film came like understanding the perspective of the time and the message it was giving at that time.

Bret: So yeah that's that is totally the vibe because I don't mean this derogatorily but if anyone's listening of this movie seems to have meant a lot specifically to Boomers.

Bret: Yeah and like I haven't heard positive things about it from younger people still talking about that still talking about The Graduate.

Pat: Boomers try to shut us down.

Ash: Do The Graduate okay I thought you meant clerks and I was like that's weird of course they did.

Bret: I feel like whatever it Whatever happened in The Graduate doesn't resonate with younger people.

Sam: It's the American dream you can suck the hot older lady and then marry her daughter.

Ash: I like the point of the film is that that's not actually happiness right like that doesn't that's that moment at the end on the bus where they realize like this isn't actually what.

Pat: That wasn't intentional building an after-the-fact decision.

Pat: I've never called cut.

Pat: It was not like an intentional thing.

Ash: Yeah but it's brilliant that's the thing that makes the movie brilliant though.

Ash: Hey sometimes happy accidents right.

Bret: What is it is the the German thing where you like the word at the end of the sentence can change the meaning for the whole rest of the sentence.

Bret: Sounds like here's here's a movie about this dude just like living the stupidest life and like he gets everything he wants kind of and then out but by the way it sucks.

Pat: Happy accidents totally sounds like it would be a movie made in the 90s that just a bunch of like vignettes of like people having philosophical conversations while chain smoking cigarettes and like Condon coffee is.

Pat: Sam you said you seen parts of us but not the whole thing has ever know she was seen it and has a pretty good memory of it or.

Ash: I've seen it I've definitely seen it it's the last time I saw it probably was when I was in college so it's been a while since the last time I saw it and I have such a specific vivid memory of when I saw it I was dating my ex boyfriend at the time and we watched it with his dad who was a man who did not like the film and spent the whole time ripping it apart and just saying how like these guys are f****** bums what are they doing.

Bret: I think the last time I watch this was also with you.

Ash: Yeah definitely.

Bret: Laughing my watch it was in high school cuz we watch this at least twice it when we were in high school and.

Bret: Yeah I mean I what am I memories of this movie I mean it's there are there are two jokes in it that the whole movie is based around and we have we have quoted them already so I don't care to know what else it has the offer at this point.

Pat: You really brighten this one up.

Bret: Hey hey I recall liking this movie I think it's hilarious but I am curious to know because of our Chasing Amy episode that we did fair this is a movie from a time. And then I don't know what genre is specifically throw this into but it's the like jaded white guy comedy that a lot of those movies haven't aged well and Chasing Amy had we had a long discussion about stuff that was weird in that movie philosophically even though the movie was pretty enjoyable I think so I'm more interested in is this like problematic created by a comedy or is it strictly dick jokes and and and Yaks cuz I'll be in for that but I don't know I don't really know.

Ash: Oh wow congratulations.

Ash: This will be the end of your marriage right.

Taylor: Interesting I don't think I've seen the movie all the way through in about 20 years yeah which when I was in college for those of you wondering how old and jaded if a white man I am but no I was talking with my wife who has agreed to watch it with me and the last time I saw it was with her on our second date which was 20 years ago so it'll be interesting and that I didn't really pay attention to it yeah yeah it'll bookend very nicely but I watched it a bunch in high school on VHS I was like the first movie I remember going and buying at the mall so I could own a copy so I can stop renting it because I really did and I had like the VHS camcorder and I was doing all the school projects and.

Ash: Yeah hey.

Taylor: Editing on to VCRs and fancied myself to be a future filmmaker or whatever and it was just and I was right but it's a there's like a 18-year Sidetrack in there or I didn't but no I have no idea if it's going to hold up because like you're saying I know it's dick jokes I know for sure I still remember them and they're very quotable.

Taylor: But like it's not one that I go back to to watch now I'll go back and watch Chasing Amy or Dogma or like Clerks 2 is like modern feels modern this one I think is going to feel super duper day.

Pat: 1990 Forest 26 years ago.

Ash: Oh my God oh my God.

Taylor: Nope nope nope no no no no.

Pat: 2720-21 now.

Taylor: Worse that's worse.

Ash: Ouch ouch.

Pat: I am going to do what I love to do it there isn't just like ride coattails on these predictions I think a lot of what Taylor said is going to be very accurate I predict like.

Pat: 600f the jokes will hold up which I get to call this in that positive.

Pat: There's definitely going to be some gay jokes that are not cool.

Ash: Definitely.

Pat: Probably some.

Pat: Massages some sexist jokes that are not cool or not even jokes just comments that are just like oh not great but.

Ash: I mean does anyone else remember the end cuz I feel like the end is probably pretty problematic.

Bret: I remember the end.

Taylor: Yeah from a from a consent standpoint.

Taylor: I think I do remember the mechanics of how the end works but it's not.

Pat: And we'll talk about it there is actually an alternate and and like final scene to this.

Ash: Oh really I didn't know that.

Pat: That was shot and then cut and we'll talk about it after but I think it's dead that's a better conversation for a free watched it but I think yeah I think the net it'll still in the stall just going to play a real strong Factor Rhino for me as far as it give this thing a little bit of a head start in that regard.

Pat: I still think it's going to be you know mostly an enjoyable experience but just knowing full bore there's definitely be a handful of jokes and comments and dialogue that.

Pat: Will make us all cringe.

Pat: Specifically adding those two Arenas when it comes to gay jokes and jokes at Women's Expo.

Sam: I think I only saw part of this and it was like I was in high school I think with Brett.

Bret: We all three watching together.

Ash: Probably no.

Pat: I would be willing to bet.

Sam: No no no it's just me and you and I didn't care for it and I don't know why I didn't make it all the way through so who knows how my tastes have changed but my high school memory of this is like there was nothing in it for me and like a weird sex thing with a girl that made me uncomfortable and I just I was done.

Ash: That's a movie you just did the whole movie.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: I'm I'm going to bet I'm going to predict my addendum yeah it's going to be asked Taylor and myself are going to be in the clothes 123 if we like rain we're going to enjoy this Ashley and tell her we'll be in the 1 2 3 Brett will be like right there in the Middle look like for thin and Sam I think you're going to do this to the least I think but.

Sam: I think it's going to be like I think I'm going to fall somewhere in the realm of how I felt about snatch which was like it just wasn't my thing you know like it's that's not bad it's just not my style not what I enjoy.

Bret: I can see why some people like this.

Pat: I think you should absolutely not watch darkest Azad a labret in my first dream job because my character is pretty much a character from snatch in D&D world so.

Sam: I do watch it and I did watch it and I do like your character.

Bret: I had to pretend to be you after you left early.

Bret: As like always.

Ash: About the whole accent.

Sam: I am worried about the the problematic stuff in this movie a little bit little bit but as a filmmaker I do really like Kevin Smith and his later stuff so I don't know I didn't taste.

Ash: Yeah as a filmmaker this was like so inspiring to me as a film student where I was like look what you can do this is like the perfect example of hate single-location couple of characters so apparently there's like 50 of them and and what you can do with that and how you can still make a film and I think that's amazing and how you can just use the resources you have and all you need is a bunch of credit cards and you can't make me feel guys.

Sam: The American dream.

Taylor: And some insurance money.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Taylor: One thing I remember though before we go watch it real quick if the soundtrack was also pretty amazing.

Taylor: I still listen to that so I don't know if that's going to happen.

Ash: Do you think both the budget went to that.

Sam: Was just going to say.

Taylor: I don't know cuz bands like that we think of being cool in the 90s probably weren't that cool in 93 so they it was probably really cheap but.

Taylor: I don't know.

Sam: Or they brought the music in with Miramax so that's a possibility.

Ash: Maybe.

Taylor: Show that totally could happen Sam could have quadrupled the budget.

Bret: That's interesting I don't remember the soundtrack at all and now I'm excited.

Taylor: Real 90s real real 90s.

Pat: I'm leaving with two things before we go one is I just counted and there are 50 people on the IMDb page on the cast exactly 50.

Ash: There's not even like shots with a bunch of extras in the background so like these people.

Pat: I don't know but so and also Kevin Smith I just I just like this this like all or nothing going all-in type Metallica's bassist like he is cited the reason he put himself in the movie cuz he based the main character on itself but didn't want to play him any face Randall the secondary main character on a friend of his.

Pat: The really put himself in in a smaller role was he was like.

Pat: This works maybe have a career as it doesn't work I'm going to be in a debt I'll probably never crawl out of my entire life but at least I'll be able to point be like.

Pat: Hey that's me in the eye mask cream.

Ash: I like that.

Pat: I did that thing at least.

Ash: Yeah it's it's kind of.

Taylor: I worked out he's like one of the only characters that had any staying power like Jay and Silent Bob are the two that took off like it's good that he didn't put himself in one of the other roles.

Bret: I guess I mean there's a limited mileage on clerks unlimited mileage on two Stoner profits.

Bret: Alright well we're going to pause the episode here and go and watch clerks and let you know what we think when we get back.

Bret: Would you like to making f*** Berserker.

Taylor: Turn turn turn What a Wookie.

Ash: Not the Chewbacca What a Wookie.

Pat: What you would like to make podcast.

Ash: I love it keep it all in everyone is recording right.

Bret: Alright Clara lyrics.

Ash: Works.

Bret: It's it's Norwegian player.

Pat: Lyrics dick lurkin.

Taylor: Lyrics.

Sam: Do you want full Scottish there.

Pat: Ladder fireworks.

Ash: Do they all there you go.

Pat: Not even supposed to be here today.

Sam: Clarkes International.

Ash: I want it I want it do it.

Bret: Who's got initial thoughts I feel like I feel like Kevin Smith watch Home Alone and then made Randall the grown-up Macaulay Culkin.

Taylor: I can see that.

Bret: I was just watching that sick that it's just I could be absolutely completely flat affect like snarky sarcasm Kevin McCallister.

Ash: I like that.

Pat: I want to rip the Band-Aid off.

Bret: Atsui grows up to be cats at Which Wich Band-Aid.

Bret: I am covered in Band-Aids right now.

Pat: Is the couple there's a couple title card of the view Askew logo I'd forgotten about that.

Bret: That was actually the worst part of the movie for sure.

Pat: I forgot about that.

Ash: Yeah I was Kofi I had confronted forgot about that as well as like what the f*** is happening right now.

Bret: Last summer who is the murderer clown murder names mixed up they see that was the Gacy the title card right eye what they're going for.

Pat: I didn't they were going for a look how do you we are boarding.

Bret: Exhilarating.

Pat: 90s style.

Bret: Before it existed.

Ash: I don't know it existed back then.

Bret: For sure.

Ash: People just weren't the thing I kept thinking about is this whole movie is just internet trolls in real life.

Bret: Yeah that title sequence was like shockingly problematic at Sam was like oh no.

Ash: Hahaha.

Sam: I instantly said I was like oh my God I hate already and then it cut to a scene of a dog and I was like I like it.

Ash: There's a dog in this okay.

Bret: I don't want to say unproblematic but it was like not like not as bad as there's only one time I was like super super like oh that was not like that was just a flat-out bad joke and it was the second or third time Jay was making gay jokes cuz it's the first time he's making gay jokes it wasn't like it was the joke was him so it wasn't really like such a big deal is only about very last parting line or he's shouting things alright yeah.

Pat: The use of the F-word.

Taylor: Yeah there's a couple of days not great.

Ash: I thought the worst gay joke was Randall calling being gay a deviant lifestyle which I was like oh gosh.

Bret: I completely missed that one.

Ash: Yeah that one was free bad.

Taylor: But then I thought maybe.

Pat: It's like it's like a slipped in there but yeah.

Taylor: Yeah but you could maybe give him the benefit of the doubt that it was Raising sheep that was the Deviant lifestyle.

Taylor: Drove them to raise sheep.

Ash: Maybe.

Pat: That's a big f****** benefit they're Taylor.

Ash: You're really yeah yeah be nice there.

Pat: I mean Dante Soul sex talk about women and men and women to have to do it like pretty pretty f****** sex or thought like his whole.

Ash: I don't think so no yeah.

Bret: For sure but are we supposed to be like empathizing with it with Dante at all even a little bit.

Pat: I like Randall as a is you when you're younger that kid like Randall but like. Say I'm like I'm over you man you are annoying.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: That scene at the end when he's like having his heart to heart with Randall and Dante it's just like.

Sam: Being an a****** like fix your life I just turned to browse like oh my God is that what every day was like when I was working my last job and hell and he was like yeah but I was like I'm so sorry.

Pat: You are the Dante.

Sam: I would look.

Bret: Everyday I was like she seems like a terrible thing happened today is like like why do you deal with it cuz I cuz I have to.

Ash: You're like no you don't know you don't.

Ash: I do love the part though we're at the end there where is Dante is Kevin Smith keto like manifested as a character I love the fact that Kevin Smith is the one telling him look there's a lot of ladies out there are not many of them are going to make you lasagna you know like I love that he's like it's it's a very like what's the word.

Taylor: Meda yeah he's telling himself.

Ash: Take Meto like he's telling you he's telling himself.

Taylor: It's very Garfield.

Bret: I thought you were going to go for Garfield it was very Garfield.

Ash: And the cat was there you know.

Pat: Dante hates Mondays.

Bret: Providence supposed to be like.

Taylor: I did I had to look it up because you know cinematically it's is more grown up or mature than I remembered and Kevin Smith was 23 when he wrote it.

Taylor: Which you know.

Taylor: Some credit where credit's due.

Bret: Yeah there is some really good I mean I guess that's Kevin Smith whole thing is is fun maybe not realistic but very fun dialogue.

Ash: Snappy.

Taylor: Yeah Supernaut realistic everybody has the perfect come back and everybody is equally verbose.

Ash: Hahaha.

Pat: So the perfect comebacks can be a little unrealistic for me the most unrealistic scene first I'm going to give it I'm going to be like a little sandwich you know I'm a compliment it and then criticize it I don't know if I have another piece of bread that complement with but we'll get across that bridge is the the scene where Caitlin for shows up in her and Dante kind of get into it I don't know what that is a 5-minute one take does unbroken that they shot in one take those like good I'm then that's a lot of dialogue to just kind of but also so that's a little compliment like good on them to remember that.

Ash: Put on them for being actors remembering their lines.

Pat: Although might be the most unappealing he is in the whole movie.

Pat: And she is at the end of it she ever seen she is throwing herself at him I'm like.

Pat: In a movie where a person unknowingly Fox a dead guy everything else that goes on the movie that's crazy like cell like you do having a gum representative stir up trouble to sell gum the most unrealistic thing is that at the end of that dialogue she's into him.

Pat: Is he is just like whining in her face.

Pat: Neck popping neck like vein popping in his neck.

Ash: Yeah he shaves her as she walks yeah she walks across like away from him through the parking lot he shall said try not to suck any dicks on your way or whatever it's like that would be oh gotcha.

Pat: Don't know Katelyn erotic the app when she shows up and he's like giving her s*** about her engagement not telling him and stuff like that also it's like bro you're in a relationship he's a relationship you're not allowed to judge each other at all cuz like you both are like being bad be my people to like you don't get to have moral High Ground when your.

Sam: The only the only headcanon that kind of grounds that seen for me is like it she in my head she fully plans to just use him for sex like she knows that she's in a better position in life and she knows that is driving him crazy and it's kind of getting her off if she's like greats I'm going to use this exactly for what I want it which is sex and nothing more like that's.

Ash: And she got it.

Pat: Heathen Heathen out from her she's an out he's an out from the other relationship.

Pat: She doesn't she's bored by maybe she doesn't have a good reason for it but if she says she's interested in there in love with this other person that's a more viable out for herself.

Taylor: Cleaner brake.

Sam: Yeah I don't either.

Bret: Assuming everything was intentional like I feel like a very strong play from Kevin Smith to make it look like they were both just horrible for each other a towel like how could she look at him and be like I want you after that weird ranting like whining I don't even know that I don't take that tone of voice with anyone that I ever intend to talk to again that yelling he was doing like.

Bret: The whole movie it sounds like you just yell at everyone but like your.

Bret: A bummer.

Taylor: By the age of 22.

Ash: The least believable thing for me in the movie is that he's slept with 12 other women sorry I can't buy that I've no no.

Bret: I'll definitely not.

Sam: Well I mean she is counting oral sex.

Taylor: That's true.

Ash: That's true that is true.

Taylor: Has different different metrics.

Ash: I was curious to know which that has the word sex on it was he a f****** of course I don't know.

Pat: Know if someone asked me how many people I have sex with I wouldn't I would only count.

Taylor: The Bill Clinton defense.

Pat: I would count like intercourse.

Bret: I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

Sam: That's how I would count it but.

Pat: You have to if you said.

Ash: If a part of another person's body goes into your body I think I think.

Pat: I'm telling you just the way I would my default babysit having sex with it would be intercourse if you have to part you would have to like preference it like.

Sam: How many people have you been with.

Pat: Yes yes.

Pat: Okay thank you Sam.

Taylor: Can you do that same thing that that same joke again in Chasing Amy about what counts as sex.

Sam: Probably he was very sexually confused Kevin Smith.

Ash: Hahaha.

Taylor: Not well I don't know Noah.

Ash: What's going with the mask.

Bret: This is a person that Taylor Knows by the way.

Taylor: Outlet.

Pat: Amion.

Ash: Kevin Kevin how many people have you had sex with Kevin.

Sam: I'm not looking for nothing personal thank you I do not need to know that.

Pat: Fun fact.

Ash: What is 37 right.

Pat: Oh my God.

Sam: Yeah the person that married their high school sweetheart I've definitely said 4:30.

Pat: Precious that good of an impressionist.

Sam: You say it's all of his personality.

Bret: UCI DND show no you haven't but.

Ash: D&D sex prop closet Mill.

Bret: The sexiest it's he's so.

Pat: Brett's new character on Darkest Days of Dale is I can't he's going to make me break character so often so angry at him.

Bret: It's a good one though he's got he does he whips he's got the whips going the whole thing.

Ash: What okay.

Ash: Wow okay.

Ash: So this movie.

Pat: But whips and rats TuneIn Thursday is 2 p. M. Eastern igeek Liang I have some fun facts about it interesting and cute so the dance scene with Jay and Silent Bob so apparently Jason Mewes is like really shy and there was nobody Manning the camera he basically made them set up the cameras or recording and everyone had to go like inside the stores uses to like shy to do it in front of the crew.

Pat: So it's just a camera with no one behind it Manning it and him and Kevin Smith to do that dance the dancing scene.

Ash: When he does the Tucks thing tell everyone to leave there.

Ash: He didn't care okay.

Pat: I think he I think he got in Clerks 2 I think by that point he got over his his face shadow.

Pat: Wild horses.

Bret: Yeah watching him like grow into that character over the years is really interesting cuz I thought he started off real uncomfortable.

Bret: You can tell he was uncomfortable saying most of the things he had to say in this.

Ash: He was more comfortable than some people though.

Pat: Speaking of uncomfortable the scene where Randall rattles off of Randall sounds like Brett at the end of our show lately.

Ash: Taylor's Lake what did I get myself into.

Ash: That's usually ridiculous.

Pat: At the end of the show tells you next week we watched blank and it's like a it's a real movie title but it sounds ridiculous and he accidentally stumbled into.

Ash: Foreign titles.

Ash: I sound like Porter.

Pat: Boys are not pornos but they sound ridiculous but he actually stumbled into real p****.

Ash: It's so much funnier when we explain the joke definitely.

Sam: Yeah.

Taylor: I appreciate it I appreciate it.

Pat: I'm telling her that you left out I'm being a good host for a guest yeah you just want to let him f****** flounder.

Sam: Guys get up that bag.

Bret: You know it's it's not a pat it's not a path segment unless he's explaining a joke.

Pat: Yeah listen so but go back and watch a show that scene for the editing because.

Pat: The mom and the kid or not he liked wouldn't do it like he said he didn't want to do it in front of them actually supposed to the kids so it's like it's a close up on him when he's rattling off those titles.

Bret: Oh yeah they just got back.

Pat: Do the mom the kid or not when he actually says that yeah.

Taylor: And that stands out because so many scenes in this movie we're winners like.

Taylor: So many scenes were like I guess this is the angle and there's no coverage and you can tell like they just use the best take they got from these actors the one where they got most of their lines and it's like you couldn't use the.

Ash: Yeah and they'll cut to like a close up like like a close up of painting the nails just so they had something to maybe cut between sometimes.

Taylor: That's like a wide shot and an insert and nothing else that's heavy.

Ash: Yeah that's it.

Sam: I left the cut to the cat reaction shot in the butt like they use those cuts for comedy which it was really well done especially knowing how low budget so.

Sam: I guess I'm coming out and say I was impressed.

Bret: Did you say how long it took them actually shoot this movie.

Bret: 21 days.

Sam: Holy crap.

Taylor: 21 nights.

Pat: Yeah thank you.

Ash: So like like.

Ash: Like 10 and 1/2 full day if you fed it together.

Ash: Oh man that's crazy.

Bret: I'm thinking of that some of the other.

Taylor: Oh my God.

Ash: You know what it doesn't show at all I'm sorry.

Bret: Some of the other like long winners that they had though that that the one that stood out to me was the their car ride where is whipping back and forth.

Ash: Oh yeah yeah.

Bret: You can cut.

Ash: Which probably was hard though to achieve with like a big ass film camera in the backseat of a car.

Taylor: Right I was picturing like Kevin Smith in the back with a giant Panavision or something.

Bret: That was fairly lockdown.

Ash: I totally was he did he shoot it was he the cameraman.

Taylor: The credits were pretty funny though I did you guys read some of the credits.

Ash: Oh no I didn't.

Taylor: First of all of the 50 actors that are credited one guy played five different roles.

Bret: I did see that.

Pat: And you guys offended.

Pat: Opera scene.

Taylor: And it's noticeable if the guy checking all the eggs he's also at the beginning with the cigarettes and he's also empty next Shot Ya which is the next scene is the customer into things in a row.

Pat: And that's seen those funny what's California about the deal he's buying he's buying paper towels and cleaning in like Windex.

Taylor: Nice.

Ash: That is funny that is funny I didn't say okay so the scene with the cat pooping in the Box.

Ash: I get the joke isn't that it's not the cat box but if it's not the actual cat box what is that.

Taylor: I thought it was the cat box and he was just setting it there like in between putting it back where it goes or something.

Ash: Gotcha.

Taylor: I don't know.

Sam: That's how I took it and it was just like the irony of the guy that claims to care about his job like setting the shitbox on the counter where people buy food like yeah dude okay right.

Pat: Originally cast himself as Randall.

Sam: Interesting.

Ash: I could see that what changed his mind.

Pat: I didn't find anything about that maybe he just didn't want he wanted to take a smaller role.

Ash: Yeah I was going to say it's a law to lie.

Taylor: Yankees said it was too many lines I think he said it was too many lines like he couldn't memorize all that and then pull so Direct.

Pat: Also.

Ash: Totally I couldn't cuz this is this his first like did he do like a short or anything before this or is this just his first I mean it feels like a first.

Taylor: Did the Spurs.

Ash: Was like I couldn't imagine directing myself.

Ash: I had my first feature film at the same time.

Bret: I feel like there's only so much time you can spend in front of the camera before you like not directing it.

Taylor: I was surprised he was in so many shots like there's a video store scene where he says you can see him through the window and it's totally unnecessary.

Ash: Oh yeah yeah.

Taylor: Like why is he what did he put himself in the background of the shot.

Ash: My only guess was because well yeah because like why is he not directing and watching the take but like.

Ash: There's like nothing.

Taylor: Right apparently nobody watches the camera right it's just.

Pat: Is his face visible or just the back of his head.

Ash: Yeah he yeah both him and J.

Taylor: Yeah he turns at the end of the shot cuz I was watching is picking all they just used a double that's smart no.

Bret: The effect of that though and like.

Ash: Have that budget to.

Ash: Right yeah.

Taylor: And then.

Bret: Just a huge number of people involved in this even though it most of it was just the ones that and barely anywhere else the entire time it really felt like it was a world that existed cuz it could easily just felt like oh this is just one room in like four people but like there really weren't 50 people in this and they just came in and out and they were they were the background.

Taylor: And a lot of them to get other jobs if you if you look at the credits it's like they're the grips they're the Pas that's the crew so everybody in there in that big cigarette scene in the beginning that's the crew pretty much.

Ash: Oh man.

Pat: Speaking about casting to another interesting is that he originally wrote the part of Dante for the actor who played Rick derris the personal trainer Jackie dude was going to buy milk.

Ash: I love I love how they're like this dude is not ripped so put a sweatshirt on him like he's just cover it up Noah.

Ash: You can probably tell.

Pat: And she like lightly puts her hand on his arm instead of squeezing it all feels like barely but I guess he showed up and he didn't like learned any of the lines for the audition was like okay well you're not going to do that.

Ash: If you was just a random person with fake ass he wasn't like a frightened or something.

Pat: Yes.

Taylor: I think so the Dante guy.

Pat: There were three scenes that were either filmed in cut or they something went wrong in the filming like technically and they couldn't reach shoot it and the budget or Time 1 is when Rena goes to the video the big big toys video store they film the interaction with him and a clerk who like to pull her up in the whole point is to be like the polar opposite just like.

Ash: Oh man oh even so good.

Pat: Call Mike helpful super confident happy to be there the exact opposite apparently they wrote a scene for what happens in the week.

Pat: Never were able to shoot it.

Ash: Well I thought that was.

Taylor: It looks like they couldn't get permission like it's only an exterior shot and I feel like they just walked up and then ran away.

Taylor: I never even got permission to film there.

Ash: Which I mean is very creative you know what I mean like like obviously it would be way better to see this whole scene of him knocking over a coffin but like they still story-wise are able to do it and they just explain everything to you later.

Bret: Yeah and it's weird cuz Kevin Smith movies are one of the few places where Italian not showing is the whole bit.

Ash: Yeah yeah yeah.

Bret: Like I'm not even mad at that.

Taylor: Yeah I kind of wish they had just talked about playing hockey on the roof that looks so ridiculously far-fetched and I was like the whole time it's so dangerous like who would be on Rollerblades on a roof.

Ash: I know like even just.

Ash: Yes.

Pat: Never honestly never thought about that till this viewing of like oh my God they could easily just like fall over and they're dead like break their neck or something.

Taylor: Crazy.

Ash: Play from a filmmaker's perspective I would be dying the whole time I feel like nobody get hurt.

Taylor: Ryan cuz you know they actually went up on the roof they didn't they couldn't afford a fake roof.

Ash: Oh yeah no yeah.

Pat: Rollerblades.

Ash: Yep.

Sam: Yeah that is just now occurring to me that thought it was not fiction that was real oh God oh my God.

Sam: No safety captain that day.

Ash: It's like worst case scenario piano ad for sure.

Bret: You weren't expecting of us stunts.

Pat: Then the other scene that was fully shot and was part of the original cut that was eventually removed was the ending.

Pat: And tell her I assume you probably know this erfurt about this or maybe you seen it.

Taylor: I have but I do not remember.

Ash: That's a good sign.

Pat: So everything up to the very end of the credits are is exact same you know like they leave they make up Randall tosses in the silent k your your clothes.

Pat: And then from that and then what we saw cuts and goes to the credits the original version was from there. They start counting out the register.

Pat: What is head down a customer comes in his look up he just says we're closed and he looks up and it's a nun first you can't see their face with a gun who shoots him in then robs them this isn't it ends with like a close-up of like his like lifeless eyes yeah he died he gets shot by robber at the end and that's how it is.

Ash: Oh my God.

Sam: That was the wrong crib decision like no.

Taylor: It's kind of great.

Ash: I kind of love that though I kind of do except man I bet he's glad he didn't do that so that he could continue this property.

Pat: Yet there was a stuff about like there's a note that is like me is like I am to be throwing shade at me or Mexican or backs who is known to be notoriously.

Pat: Hands-On or Force changes actually didn't forces on him so it was up to him but then then admitted later they were very relieved when he chose.

Ash: Oh wow.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: You know I mean the movie ended and I was like am I supposed to feel good about any of what has happened like nobody I don't think anyone learned a lesson.

Pat: Veronica learned a lesson about self-respect and she can do way better than Dante and she that's probably the best scene in the movie where she's kicking the s*** out of him and she's reading the riot act and she's spot-on with everything she says.

Ash: Totally agree except you know we don't know cuz we don't see that same but then Dante's like yeah go to go smooth stuff over with Veronica but also go check on sew-ins the other chick at the hospital and I'm like so dear just right back to both of them huh okay yeah.

Taylor: It clearly learned nothing.

Ash: Exactly.

Pat: He did say first he is a he's first going to go like he's going to first see how Caitlin is doing at the hospital and then probably what he says in the tone of it will depend on that like how catatonic are you feeling you're going to be here for a while okay I'm going to go make up with my girlfriend.

Bret: A real world situation honestly if the person you were just talking to just did that he might go check on him but this guy you know he's up to no good.

Pat: He said that he's gauging like it she like lucid and I talk he's like.

Ash: You want check out this Hospital bathroom I hear with the lights don't work.

Bret: I feel like also that via the One Missed opportunity for a lot of jokes at least in my head is just the implication that he could be confused for a dead body.

Bret: Have like an old like very rotund gentleman.

Bret: They did.

Taylor: Well they establish that he's out of shape.

Ash: Yeah that's true that is true.

Pat: Yes but there's not any fat on his body.

Pat: According to him.

Ash: The cat box we we figured that out the cat Buy.

Taylor: I have a question for everybody and it's it's open to interpretation but I think I've been feeling this one part of the movie Wrong my whole life and I'm still not a hundred percent sure but when they say Asian when they say Asian design major.

Ash: Oh yes.

Taylor: Is this an Asian person who majors in design or is this a person who majors in Asian design.

Ash: I was wondering that too.

Taylor: And they did confirm that he is Chinese later in the film.

Ash: Yes which made it worse.

Pat: Why would you put that in the paper.

Ash: It was 1996 or whatever.

Taylor: Oh yeah that's totally professional input no one puts one person's name and the other person's occupation in a wedding.

Taylor: I'm still I'm still not sure because Asian design my wife tells me was very popular in the early 90s I don't.

Bret: Their last name was saying.

Sam: It was right around the noguchi.

Taylor: Yeah.

Pat: So do you think it's supposed to be a joke and not in the NBA.

Taylor: It is supposed to be.

Pat: Donna Raceway from Kevin Smith know no better joke I'm saying is if a TIF the concept of Asian design was very topical and popular at the time was he doing a thing where he's like he's an Asian design major he's an Asian design major in the whole time you mentioned you're leading up to it the audience who in that * 94 is like oh he's majoring in Asian design they're assuming that and then she says his name and he's Chinese it supposed to be like oh he's like.

Ash: Does that make it better though.

Pat: No I don't think it does but I'm saying because the thought the top prices like well what are you what were you going for right I feel like it's the question you're right it was like what was he what was it what was it going for so if Asian design was a buzz term at the time.

Pat: I can see that trying to be the intended bit it doesn't age right it doesn't age because of racism but also cuz like that's not a thing that we talked about is Asian design right now I'm trying to give an equivalent like what's something right now.

Ash: Why not let's get back into it I would love to talk about that.

Bret: It has a strong like rural juror Vibes you know.

Pat: It be like it be like if you like a movie or like is a tic toc professional he's a tic toc professional and then you meet the character is like yeah.

Bret: Hartford Pat.

Pat: I'm making.

Taylor: That is the exact modern-day equivalent.

Bret: I'm muting your mic.

Ash: Hahaha.

Sam: I really I really hope the intent was that the guy is studying Asian design I hope they were trying to kind of play up that Duality between Dante and this new guy that she found like he's super smart he's cultured he's in college like he's successful in like he's snooty but not just like interior design snooty but like Multicultural designs nudy so I'm hoping that was the intent I am not confident that I'm correct.

Taylor: I know but it is very possible that you know Kevin Smith in his early twenties knew someone named sang who majored in Asian design and just put it in.

Taylor: He clearly also had something out for guidance counselors for his particular guidance counselor.

Bret: Yeah well that's probably mostly what it was as just a lot of the writing in this movie and in a lot of Kevin Smith movies are the things with observational comedy but specifically things that Kevin Smith thanks or pretentious.

Taylor: Yes.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Bret: Asian design.

Taylor: And I thought the movie itself like it's a bunch of Dick jokes but then it was also more pretentious than I remember.

Ash: Yes.

Taylor: As a film with the little the title cards in the leg you got you got to be smart to get this movie but here's some dick jokes very confusing.

Bret: Genre trap.

Ash: Is that like a style with the text cuz like you know like it's always sunny also does it.

Ash: I don't know if there's like a comparison there.

Pat: There's nine of them and Dante and there's nine circles of hell and if that was intentional.

Taylor: That makes sense so it's based on a thing cool.

Pat: I mean very Loosely like.

Ash: Others logic.

Pat: I mean again go back to the future he's 23 so definitely like he read it once probably it was like hashtag.

Pat: It is a lot of hashtag deep in this.

Ash: Kevin Smith was actually an Asian design major that minored in Dante's Inferno.

Taylor: Simple Man.

Sam: I kind of did you guys see a lot of influence on Letterkenny.

Ash: Laughed that much it was dumb.

Taylor: Yeah yeah the Letterkenny Vibe was strong with just some dude sitting around cracking jokes.

Sam: Yeah it was like a really had that small town feel but like really big world all in the dialogue and quippy and like.

Bret: We have one of my friends said about Letterkenny that I think also applies to this is a letter Letterkenny is the dialogue is modern Shakespeare like they just trying to write like these ridiculous unrealistic dialogue.

Bret: And it's it's funny and witty and rhonchi at the same time and say I get it like that's totally totally divided in this movie.

Ash: What minus the raunchy it's very like in 1950s Snappy his girl Friday style dialogue which is interesting especially since this is a black and white movie it's like oh seems like you were inspired by that in a weird way.

Bret: Yeah what's what's the general filmmaker traffic right is like anything you've ever seen if you do it again it's like inside jokes and inside references for everyone who does film and that's like that's that's what it's doing it's all about man that's how.

Pat: I mean I mean I mean Kevin Smith.

Ash: Go fuc yourself for me.

Bret: Payless and we we bought we've all done it freaking animation does it more than anyone else so.

Pat: Kevin Kevin Smith is.

Bret: The call out on everyone I know.

Pat: Is arguably the most self-referential filmmaker ever.

Pat: There are just references on references and everything is like his first four movies all reference each other even in the casing Amy references like that girl who died in the pool and aneurysm that's the week they went to.

Taylor: And there are other or other sister or somebody is the girl in Mallrats who's doing the sex study.

Taylor: The Jones Sisters.

Pat: The the the the girl yes wait other three sisters then cuz there's yeah there's.

Taylor: I want to dies.

Taylor: Youngest of the Mallrats.

Ash: I'm still hung up on this ending that never happened because.

Ash: It makes all the difference for me.

Bret: Can see what you want Dante to die.

Pat: I think you're the first person.

Sam: I thought you said was Randall.

Ash: Cheapest don't don't you know no it's Dante Randall leaves.

Pat: No nose. Is Dante gets killed.

Sam: That's that's way better I thought it was Randall techno Randall's the only one that's right okay.

Taylor: Randall's going places.

Ash: No it's like it's kind of perfect that he dies in the end and I'm kind of sad that that's not what happens now.

Ash: Oh my God thank you.

Ash: Absolutely.

Pat: Don't even notice till like I got a feel like I would have closed the shop at like noon and like you said you're going to be here at noon I'm done like I wasn't supposed to come in the first time like I was here first I was here.

Ash: I turned my boyfriend and I was like this is why I cannot work in retail cuz I'd be like well I guess bye.

Sam: And if it were Brett he would have shown up and saw gum in the locks on her bed like guess the store is not opening today.

Bret: It was like this.

Pat: Or just go buy more gum somewhere and put it in the lock to the door so I can't even get the door open to they did they'd dig they got us.

Pat: But definitely.

Ash: Heathens in this town or whatever they say.

Taylor: Bunch of savages.

Ash: Savages Thang.

Pat: I mean obviously the accounting is not super airtight cuz he just like in real fast and lose like giving stuff away taking money to go buy papers whatever it is leaving money on the counter so you could literally just like close up and be like yeah wait no customers.

Ash: Yeah like how no one's going to know.

Pat: Is no money is missing then right and Omission this is missing if you never open the store or if he opened it for a little bit.

Taylor: And they don't have security cameras.

Ash: Yeah and they don't they don't we know they don't.

Taylor: I doubt they talk about it people assume they're being watched.

Pat: Timer relay don't work.

Ash: Right right I mean think about all the merchandise they destroy her fight at sea.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Taylor: Yeah in their fight that was fun though I've never seen this in HD before and like reading all the 90s candies and like the fiddle battles and stuff that was fun.

Ash: The Cherry Pie slime I was literally just talk to my boyfriend about that the other day and I was like God I miss cuz like I just miss junk food so much in quarantine it's like the one thing that I'm just dying for a bag of Doritos or something.

Ash: I know I can buy it but.

Pat: Dipping Doritos in salsa.

Ash: No but it sounds good.

Sam: I know I think they were Tostitos.

Ash: Craig Craigslist.

Pat: I swear to God it's a Doritos.

Ash: No it says Doritos a thing.

Sam: That's a that's not a good decision.

Pat: Why would you want to mess the perfect flavor.

Ash: I think it'd be great just you can't use the salsa after the fact but what if it was the nacho cheese ones Doritos and then you put some salsa on it.

Pat: Not as good you're still detracting you're still.

Ash: You guys have not been high enough.

Taylor: Reeks of Stoner snacks.

Pat: You just attracting from the Flavor which is perfection.

Sam: Yeah yeah.

Bret: If you have to turn off your brain to enjoy your food.

Pat: Famous movies right.

Ash: That's not how it works.

Taylor: So was it a thing in the early 90s that everybody knew what shoe polish melt like.

Pat: That's a great point.

Taylor: I don't know I have no idea.

Ash: That was like a running joke that really wasn't Landing it just wasn't working.

Taylor: Everybody is like why do you smell like shoe polish and I'm wondering why do these 22 year olds know what shoe polish smell like like.

Sam: Does Doc Martens were real f****** popular.

Taylor: That's probably it they probably didn't know he was wearing those boots.

Ash: Okay okay lawyer lawyer.

Pat: Yeah again though the him like why you going so far above and beyond to do the sign in the first place like.

Pat: You could just open the front door.

Pat: Cinnamon like mean people.

Ash: It also could have just said we're open but he I assure you he added letters but she didn't mean.

Bret: Even even that man yeah they're just coming back to the like the Letterkenny Viber this cuz better K does that repetition thing a lot you know is Edgar Wright like I think that's just like.

Ash: What a running gag you're just you're just talking about a comedy that's just the comedy thing.

Pat: No no I know a breast saying yeah I know exactly.

Bret: It's a very specific subcategory of running gag where everybody says exactly the same line no matter who they are or what they're reference of the original situation you know you've got red on you like that sort of thing.

Pat: I know exactly what you're saying like one character says it another character who is not there for the saying of it comes in with no context and says the exact same like verbatim I get what you're saying no.

Taylor: He goes to all the trouble he goes to all the trouble to make the sign and then every customer who comes in says hey you open you open.

Ash: TRUE.

Taylor: Sounds like an exercise in futility.

Bret: Really really does have better the Dante's Inferno Vibe do it too.

Ash: That's why he should have died it would just would have been so perfect.

Taylor: I was thinking at some point like how inexpensively we could remake this movie it's so few shots so few locations and so few actors so why don't we do it will remake it and we'll put that ending in.

Taylor: And it'll be great we'll make thousands of dollars.

Sam: After gender flip everyone though.

Taylor: Oh yeah.

Pat: Oh I like that a lot.

Ash: We will lose it that is brilliant and then we will lose the dozens of dollars in the lawsuit canvas files on it.

Taylor: I don't think that will happen asperity.

Ash: You have his ear go go ask him if we can.

Taylor: I'm not going to ask for permission.

Ash: We could shoot it in the last Blockbuster.

Sam: Plaid Pantry.

Taylor: I'm sure there's a convenience store nearby can do the video store and it would work.

Bret: Plaid Pantry.

Bret: That was pretty good.

Ash: I was going to say actually I have shot in a convenience store before and it is f****** murder for sound and this movie is the perfect filmmaking example of it does not matter how shity your visual quality is as long as your sound is good your golden because some of these shots are garbage yeah but the sound is fantastic and I don't know how they did it I really don't.

Ash: Maybe yeah maybe.

Pat: I think yeah.

Pat: Auto Parts.

Taylor: Is a lot of ADR and it's stood out though like you could tell when it was a TR.

Ash: Those fries like you point the camera or a mic towards those fridges and that's all you're getting is the f****** hum that's it.

Taylor: Nearest shooting in a real store like they couldn't turn off the freezer for the night.

Ash: Yeah they can't turn it off also shot in a bar before and it's the same thing where you can't unplug the fridge you know like you can unplug the ice machine like they need all these things and so it's just as loud as f*** and you're like well body is garbage.

Bret: So that makes me think of how we record the podcast when we're all in the same place ad.

Ash: When I record it for my walk-in freezer.

Pat: Is that ever going to happen again I don't.

Bret: The the nicer than Mike's you have the worst your audio sounds if the environment is bad so maybe that they couldn't have nice mics maybe they were just using Dynamic mics on everyone and it couldn't f****** pick up the fridge cuz they were ten feet away.

Ash: Maybe there was the sea.

Sam: Leave it to the Boom by cop to know that how they did it.

Ash: If there was the scene where Dante is talking to.

Ash: His ex-girlfriend who's Mary and her audio sounds great and his audio is echoey and I was like whoever was Boo mopping has the mic pointed towards her butt and is not turning it for when he talks.

Bret: Oh yeah I mean yeah I didn't dive into the credit so this this is like everybody's first movie right like.

Ash: Everything yeah.

Taylor: There was somebody for sound there were like three credits and the first one was like they're over joke Reddit like initial shity sound mix and then professional sound mix and they were different people so I think they probably if they spent any money on post it was for sound.

Ash: What a way to call out your friend that was f****** helping unite shoot.

Taylor: What it was it was the producer who is also an actor in like the editor it was like.

Ash: The shame him.

Taylor: I thought they could do this and then so that was Scott they thought he could do the sound he cannot do the sound they hired somebody else and they put that in the credits like like they just didn't have enough credits.

Bret: The shame credit I feel like has to be accompanied by like some Financial loss like that costs an extra like a couple thousand dollars a jerk.

Pat: I like that yeah you tried to but it sucks so we had to spend another five grand on this.

Ash: Hey he's still awake is he still editing let's see.

Pat: Scott Mosier oh he I mean he and like Kevin Smith and good buddies and he he he does bit Parts in a lot of his movies he's been like a producer on a ton of different realms.

Ash: I was looking to see if he's still doing editing the last thing he edited was 2004.

Ash: Eventually sound was like Scott Stapp.

Ash: Wow.

Sam: I kind of I kind of feel like I should go first cuz in the in a weird plot twist of events I think I set my expectations solo but I was like this is actually pretty funny and I like the dialogue and like I don't know I think I was expecting like I don't know like really like low student film quality.

Ash: I mean there's some of that in there.

Sam: Yeah yeah they're certainly is but like I don't know so I was like okay it's pretty funny it's wildly inappropriate it is not PC by any standards of today it is wildly offencive.

Sam: But there is some little like.

Sam: Elements that you can kind of cherry pick out that are worth appreciating particularly like is the limited budget in the creativity of getting the story across and then also I really liked the way the dialogue was written I really liked how he was able to keep it fun and like entertaining between two people when most of it was just talk.

Sam: So.

Sam: I probably will never ever want to watch it again but but I enjoyed watching it and I was not bored and I was not as offended the second time around as I was the first time around but it's certainly it's that I get why I felt that way the first time so yeah.

Bret: Who's next who wants to go.

Ash: Nice luke warm blanket Sam's vinyl.

Pat: My predictions were pretty enough or pretty on like iced enjoyed it for the most part it was a trip down memory lane I think I might go probably go watch Mallrats and Chasing Amy in the next couple weeks or so.

Pat: Didn't hold up this some stuff that probably even at the time was a little questionable from the PC or problematic standpoint but the nice thing is Kevin Smith seems to have.

Ash: I don't know I think f****** a dead guy is totally fine.

Ash: Oh okay.

Pat: Oh yeah me too I that's how I was talking about at all yeah.

Bret: Don't kinkshame.

Pat: Yeah yeah yeah we are so this is a sex-positive show your pulse doesn't have to be positive for us to be positive about your sex life.

Pat: What I was trying to say.

Ash: And Taylor is deleting us from his accounts.

Pat: Northwestern say was it was nice though is to see that Kevin Smith is obviously evolved as a person in that regard instead of his social awareness and social consciousness.

Ash: Totally.

Sam: Malice.

Pat: And and I think more the stuff that doesn't hold up was not out of any single where he is now yeah and Malice just ignorance.

Pat: Which is good to see growth and people growth and evolution but I'm glad they keep looking I was here with you really love this movie as a young lad and guy I'm glad I got to visit.

Bret: Why you got a frown over there I love most of the movies we watch this is this is a she.

Ash: I'm not frowning you are projecting.

Bret: There's no there's no projection it sure this movie was better than I was expecting a given just the memory of watching Chasing Amy I feel like weirdly Kevin Smith started out in a more positive place then he went later with that one just from the The Vibes of the dialogue and what we're supposed to think of the characters cuz Chasing Amy definitely had I like.

Bret: The guy was still a jerk but.

Bret: I think was held up as a more of a hero character than then I feel like we would definitely supposed to hate Dante by the end of this movie.

Bret: So it was it was like it was pretty good it's interesting cuz there's a bunch of I want to say iconic stuff but stuff that was in our high school circulation like the the General Media circulation live the Star Wars conversation and.

Bret: Stuff like that that was really funny back then and is so funny today because it was from back then but like.

Bret: What's the for the internet and you can you have that conversation at your fingertips 24/7 and I feel like nobody would write that joke in a movie today because it's just like a boring joke now but like that but it's funny in the context of when this movie was made.

Ash: That's what I meant when I said this movie is just internet trolls in real life before the internet.

Bret: It's interesting seeing like the wave that one yeah Kevin Smith has changed that to the ways that writing and comedy have changed and how even with that if this was still pretty funny all that Ash talk about technical stuff in the movie cuz I honestly wasn't paying that much attention to what what happened technically but the writing was really fun and surprisingly unproblematic given that everything that was bad was said by a person that you weren't supposed to light.

Ash: You want to go Taylor do you want me to go.

Ash: Did it ruin your your are you still married let's make sure oh good.

Taylor: I'm still married and she sat through the whole movie and she said she want me before she's like I'm probably going to go watch Real Housewives and not finish this and she finished the movie and.

Ash: Wow I had the opposite.

Pat: Which one my wife was watching Real Housewives while I was watching this.

Pat: Angels watching Dallas.

Ash: There's more than one.

Taylor: Oh I have no idea I can't keep up okay you're a better better husband tonight there's so many Housewives oh my goodness.

Taylor: Wow.

Pat: Hahaha.

Ash: I had the opposite experience where my boyfriend and I ate dinner together watching the movie and I said do you want me to go downstairs to finish this and he said yes please.

Taylor: Yes it was like my first time watching it through the lens of someone who's made a movie you know the first the last time I saw it I had getting shot on VHS in my high school and had given up filmmaking to be a musician so I had never gone back and I just remembered it as being an inspiration for filmmaking and all that so I was definitely watching at this time through the lens of like how did they do that for no money and who are these people and I why does it sound so good and all these scenes are in one take and I had one shot and I that's why they acting isn't as good as I think it should be because you know he had probably two takes with everybody and this is the one where they got the words right it was no.

Ash: Yeah and Kevin Smith is outside for this one.

Taylor: I don't even watch it like stuff like that was blowing my mind is like and that's why I looked at how old he was cuz like when I was 23 you know I mean he wrote this to in the writing is the part that everybody's like out on the filmmaking is not that great but the writings pretty good and it's like all of it was so much more impressive to me now that said it wasn't nearly as funny as I remembered and the characters were way less likeable like when I was a teenager I think like I thought Dante was fine and that Randall was the coolest guy in the world and that even Jay was redeemable and now watching it as a as a grown up I'm like oh oh.

Taylor: Veronica's the only redeemable character in this film and that was intentional and oh my gosh.

Taylor: I didn't learn anything from it as a teenager aside from Dino the contractors on the Death Star or innocent bystanders.

Taylor: But I still think it holds up as an amazing lesson in filmmaking and what can be done with like tenacity in a DIY work ethic like.

Taylor: Considering how much harder it was to make anything back then I was more appreciative of it now.

Taylor: Then I thought I would be.

Ash: Yeah I mean I think I'm in a similar space where I find the filmmaking impressive not necessarily because like do this was a great motivated shot that's really telling the story with camera movement know that it's like wow this is really it's really cool to see what people did with the limitations and still were able to pull it off like another movie that I would like in this movie to would be creep and if you haven't seen creep highly recommend it very good its with the Ash with his name on it.

Ash: A duplass it's Mark duplass there's literally two people in the film and it's all shot in a cabin that was an Airbnb and it's all handheld Blair Witch style footage and the cinematographer is the other character in the film so it's literally two people and and it's and they do this whole horror film and it's great it's like Fanta as a fantastic horror film and it's the same sort of thing where it's like how creative you know you can be as a filmmaker with these limitations and still pull stuff off and that's what's really cool like that you were talking you're like all that Ash from it on the technical like technical perspective.

Ash: There's not much to comment on because they clearly didn't really light this film but because they shot black and white that helps them so like they tied I don't know if it was intentional on from a filmmaking lighting perspective but like that totally he do the shooting black and white save them otherwise the lighting probably would have been a f****** nightmare and would have been just mixed bag of all sorts of horrible overhead lights and what not.

Pat: They said yes yeah they said it will cuz it was there filming at night and had to make it look like day and also trying to get like accurate lighting would have been Way Beyond them.

Ash: Yeah and probably even getting lights in the small space cuz they actually shot in the store right.

Taylor: And they didn't have lights back then like we do now that just run off of Regular ac they would have had to have a generator in there or something would have been crazy.

Ash: Something yeah so.

Sam: You know there is something to be said about being that young of a filmmaker and like knowing your creative limitations though.

Ash: Yeah I mean you see that time and time again right where you see a filmmaker who's really brilliant starting out because they have these limitations and then when someone says here's all the money in the world make whatever you want and then it's like oh sudden.

Sam: Lucas.

Ash: I wasn't going to say it.

Bret: It's just it's so easy.

Sam: What did I say something I just had to cough.

Ash: But you do like I think limitations can spark creativity and and make things that's the whole basis around the short film Pat and I made was through the limitations of shooting a film in quarantine the you know we came up with this idea but.

Ash: But yeah I think it's impressive from a filmmaking standpoint I think it's absolutely a film that every film student should watch because I think you can learn a lot from it has it aged well no not really but the the banti dialogue is funny I have to agree with you Taylor I didn't find it as funny though as I remembered and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that like the shock value of out of a lot of the things that they're talking about aren't very shocking anymore but when I was in high school it was like.

Ash: So I think that's maybe because it was definitely a lot of shocks factor that made things funny or like the knocking over of a a casket I don't know I feel like I've seen that before and I'm calling my own self out cuz I've definitely written that in a script.

Taylor: I think a lot of the jokes were aimed a lot younger to like in a blue Navy Seals is not a funny joke but when I was a teenager it was.

Taylor: I still think what's the cat's name annoying customer holds up as a very good joke.

Ash: The end still bothers me though.

Bret: You just want him to die now now that you know he could have been dead.

Ash: Why do I do want him to die but I mean like the whole her f****** a dead body thing is just like.

Ash: I think what bothers.

Pat: I didn't call at the end that's more like the climax.

Ash: Yeah so I can better wear a big liar.

Ash: I just like who thinks that up what sort of f***** up that's a f*****-up thing that they cover.

Sam: Horny boys.

Taylor: I feel like like a lot of Kevin Smith jokes it came from somebody telling him that the human body can maintain an erection after it's dead for up to so many hours cuz that's like a line in the movie and he's like how do I reverse engineer that to be my whole movie you know.

Bret: And what did we say he also would like worked as a clerk or something like this was based on him yeah so like you know that I mean there's a reason why everyone hates using public restroom because there is probably just like frequent.

Ash: The dude died in it and someone f*** them.

Bret: The precursor to that there's probably lots of jazz in the public bathroom on every surface.

Ash: Okay cool cool cool cool awesome love.

Bret: All right so thanks for coming on the show today.

Taylor: You guys are fine.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: God I hope so.

Bret: Tell everybody where they can find you one more time.

Taylor: How you can check out my new movie the last Blockbuster wherever you rent movies except Redbox we're not in Redbox or fighting with Redbox.

Ash: A joke.

Taylor: Do I posted that when the movie came out in Redbox like got in a little Twitter beef with us it was cute.

Ash: Oh man.

Bret: Bayview Blockbusters big competition.

Taylor: I'm sure yeah I know last Blockbuster movie has links to all of our stuff and I made other movies too you can do you know Google Google me.

Taylor: Yeah if you like Ska music.

Ash: Yeah you have a ska documentary that the Aquabats are in.

Sam: Awesome.

Ash: Brett yeah wheel wheel of the Aquabats.

Taylor: Good you're good people then.

Bret: WhatsApp.

Ash: Well I mean if you can say that after this episode then sure.

Taylor: You're Super Rad people.

Bret: What's that one called to say the name of that.

Taylor: Has come pick it up ska in the 90s it is all about Sky music for.

Taylor: Focused on the 90s with bands like Reel Big Fish the Aquabats The Mighty Mighty Bosstones no doubt Save Ferris and Delight.

Bret: Mighty Mighty Bosstones are having an internet thing this week I was fun to go back and listen to some of its.

Pat: Revel Chris Revel.

Ash: We should also thank our friend Chris Chris revelle who had he threw you our way see I knew I was in a funk it up Chris Revell the reveal okay I'm going with that one.

Ash: Every one of his podcast episodes he reveals something about himself.

Sam: You can do a pick up Ash it's okay.

Ash: What is it.

Bret: It's okay thank the thing that you want to say and then say the other one.

Ash: But we should think our friend Chris Revel because he threw our way and you were on his podcast let's chat with Chris and everybody should check out that episode as well if you want to know more about Taylor.

Sam: What song is pick it was Twitter's pick.

Ash: Why would I don't know you know everything you need to know about him from his pic of Clerks.

Taylor: Come on the internet pics I was pulling for Revenge of the Nerds what time which I'm sure holds up way worse.

Sam: Has a wave or problematic sex scene in it.

Taylor: Way more problematic.

Ash: Brett Nix that one as soon as the pool went live.

Bret: I was like yeah we're going we're just there won't be anything else to talk about except that you can't do that episode.

Ash: We will all be very happy by the end.

Ash: Well thank you so much for being on.

Bret: Any further audience engagement.

Bret: Potato gun there.

Ash: I don't think so cuz I didn't do a.

Ash: Oh I said no cuz I didn't we did the podcast.

Bret: Human potato hybrid.

Bret: I think Sam goes next.

Ash: Oh you wanted me to do this what I thought you said okay sorry.

Pat: Yeah yeah it gave the audience.

Pat: Yeah.

Taylor: You guys.

Ash: Shut your f****** face Taylor.

Bret: Yes this is the outro the thing we do at the end of every episode for a hundred and fifty episodes.

Bret: Lightly.

Ash: No yeah I know it's just no no.

Sam: Bear.

Pat: No it yet yeah there's been an audience.

Ash: We'll do it live.

Taylor: There was this is why this is why are we alive.

Bret: Lightly edited I usually cut like an hour out of every episode this is why we never do a live episode.

Ash: I'm glad you're enjoying it can also follow us on Twitter we're at let's re-watch where we do fun things like the Twitter pull or you guys got to pick the movie or if you don't pick the movie I will tweet a picture and you get to guess which movie We're watching so sorry Mitch there's no guessing this time cuz there was a Twitter poll that's right I'm calling you out.

Sam: So if you like our podcast please give us a 5-star review on Apple podcasts or Google podcast we love your positive feedback and please tell your friends and join us you know on the interwebs and spread the good word.

Ash: Appreciate you.

Pat: We are part of the house doing it we're part of the certain pov. Com network of shows.

Ash: Shut your face Brett you're the one ruining it this time.

Pat: Come check us out at certain. V. See some of our other great shows hosted by a phenomenal people like another past screen snark Saturday morning confidential circle of friendship.

Ash: I love that person another pass.

Pat: I said shows hosted by great people come check out and ask the real movie critic versus the ceiling guy.

Ash: So keep talking please.

Sam: Does Pat is the only one he's the only one that doesn't suck up the ending just f*** it up by talking over it.

Pat: I'm just feeling like I'm just really excited to go out I can't wait to watch Taylor's I want to watch last last Blockbuster and it sounds like it's really great or at least that's the impression that I get.

Ash: It's good.

Taylor: No no no.

Ash: The canceled.

Bret: I like that one.

Bret: Can we tell people again to watch us on Thursdays.

Pat: Watch Brittany play D&D Thursdays at 2 p. M. Eastern. Twitch. Tv / geeklyinc.

Pat: We are going to icewind Dale the darkest days Adele with our adventuring party Apparently after I left to go take a call from my publisher they named our adventuring party the mitochondria so we're going to have words later.

Bret: The PowerHouse of the cell.

Ash: Oh my God are you serious.

Taylor: Powerhouse of the cell.

Ash: Oh wow okay.

Bret: All right well that's.

Ash: Tell you it just makes me want to watch it less the more you.

Sam: Never watched a single episode of it.

Ash: That is not true.

Bret: You don't talk to me me to a creepy voice for 2 hours and talk about whipping rats.

Ash: Yeah sorry about that.

Bret: How God alright well thanks again for coming on Taylor this is a lot of fun I'm sorry that you had to listen to our voices for so long for the listeners join us next time when we watch a movie that has a bunch of weird implications Jesse James meets Frankenstein's daughter.

Sam: Weight is that one app or no.

Bret: The basically the sequel to this movie.