Fight Club with Brian Fitzpatrick
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A chance meeting gets two guys into the Roxbury where they meet their dream woman and decide to open their own club. That's right, it's Fight Club, starring I am Jack's colon, Brad Pitt's abs, Lydia Deetz, and Meatloaf. With special guest Brian Fitzpatrick @thewritingfitz, author of the Mechcraft sci-fi novel series.
Starring Ash Blodgett, Bret Eagleston, Samantha Willson, and Patrick Edwards
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Ash: Your hair is very cute.
Pat: Yeah it was good.
Sam: I watched it.
Bret: Hello and welcome to another episode of let's re-watch the show where we watch movies that we loved in our youth and find out if they're still any good I'm Bret.
Sam: I'm Sam.
Ash: I'm Ash.
Pat: And I'm Pat.
Bret: Jesus Christ.
Brian: That was awesome.
Ash: Yeah you're you just ruin it.
Ash: Yeah you were a bit this is not me.
Pat: What days you're going to cut out a shed and then you're going to say during go Jesus Christ and no one's going to know why you were like cursing and doing a cuss.
Bret: Know everyone's going to know that Ash talked all the way through my intro and through my Godlike powers of editing the podcast I erased her from existence.
Pat: I wasn't even going to drink today but then I made the syrup and it's like why can't not use it.
Brian: You didn't bring enough to share.
Pat: I have three like bottles of every way too much so come by and stop by after.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Just drive just drive across country.
Bret: Pat's been texting us all day with pictures of syrup.
Pat: I'm going to do mint this weekend too.
Ash: I'm on board.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: I love simple syrup special little bottles with those like those little like corks that like on the weird metal hinge.
Brian: So no complex syrup just simple syrup.
Ash: Send me your syrup p***.
Ash: Oh my gosh.
Pat: Who is that voice oh my gosh there's another person here yeah we have a guest as.
Bret: Please let's not talk about syrup pouring.
Pat: We have a guest as we do.
Ash: The syrup has gone to his head.
Ash: Best friend.
Pat: We have the author of The Craft series of novels and the co-writer of the upcoming television series sentience skull and my comrade co-worker publisher survival Survivor Survivor of one publisher and currents Black Rose writing Bryant.
Pat: That's with you.
Bret: Welcome.
Ash: Yay.
Brian: Happy to be here so happy to be here guys thanks for having me.
Ash: Thanks for coming.
Bret: Yeah I'm very excited for today.
Brian: I am too it just might just like the intro I'm very excited.
Ash: What do lizards do know is that we had to reschedule and that you were so kind but you didn't even want to bother us to reschedule because you had a water leakage going on at your house and we had to be like no man let's reschedule it's fine.
Brian: It was bad.
Pat: Yeah we.
Pat: We're talkin in your ear like 12 or at the hotel I'll figure it out just like wait what what's going on to Piper is like oh my gosh man we don't have to do this that night we can push it's okay like it get back in your home.
Brian: The Show Must Go On The Show Must Go On.
Brian: I appreciate you guys rescheduling.
Pat: So.
Ash: Most considerate guest award congratulations.
Pat: Brian I'm really excited to have you here I was kind of.
Brian: The other one.
Pat: Securitas in rambling but as I mentioned you are with black rose writing as your publisher or novel series metcraft and I went I know our relationship we're both survivors alums of the first publisher that published her first book the other one and you introduced me to micros.
Ash: Oh oh you were both on the other one huh as well.
Pat: Yes the other one and and Brian actually introduced me to Black Rose and I'm very happy there and I'm very grateful but I want to hear but I know you had a really interesting 2021 professionally between the novel series and the pension skull to show you're working on so can you tell us a little bit about those.
Ash: Well.
Brian: Oh absolutely so actually just began in 2020 I met craft was released on the previous publisher the sci-fi thriller kind someone coined the term perfectly they said it was The Matrix needs Harry Potter I like I'll take that and I spent most of the early part of the pandemic finishing the sequel disruption and about the time I was like well I don't want to use the same publisher I had before so I started hunting down new ways to publish I thought about self-publishing but black rose riding stood out and I they were actually help my queries they were the fourth on my list and they were in my top favorites that I wanted and they accepted not only they want the sequel but they also wanted to republish the first book and I had just gotten the rights back so I was more than happy to have them do it.
Brian: So I popped the so they were agreed to publish Metcalf & Metcalf construction on May 4th 2021 and I was like great what better day for sci-fi book than May 4th.
Ash: Oh my God.
Brian: Then come in late December early January they put out the word saying hey we've got an open slot for a November publication if if you have something ready for us and I said well got the outline for the 3rd Metcalf book Metcalf cataclysm but it says I have written a word in this well if you can get it to us by March 1st will publish it this year and I'm like okay that's like seven weeks so.
Ash: Wow.
Ash: Oh wow.
Brian: So I didn't even blink I just said yes I will get that to you so I took I had like some time built up from work some vacation time my family who is super supportive they just sort of cleared the schedule didn't book me for anything and I just wrote insane hours and I had finished the first draft in about four weeks send it to my public my editor and who's a rockstar she cleared her schedule and got to my work got to my book right away and finished it and got it back to me so I had not time to do one quick rewrite with her nose and get it give the black was writing and I got it to them on March 1st and I don't recommend doing that ever it was very difficult was very difficult but it was so worth walk-ins now it's going to be published in November and it being 10 000 words longer than the other books that's the longest one.
Pat: You're going to you're going to end 2021 with having three novels released in the year.
Brian: In the same year.
Brian: And I'm I'm so thrilled thank you so much and this you know the backstory of maricraft began Life as a screenplay on my most a screenwriter and I won a place to quarter-finals in six different contest and I've got some meetings and the gut well-received but nobody was nobody's buying it because it didn't have any fanbase that's the answer I got told every time so a friend of mine in the business recommended converting the screenplay into a novel publishing it to build a fanbase nieces are those agents and Studios and production companies will come to you all right I will at first I thought it because I was like I just spent years honing this script I don't want to do is convert it to a novelty crazy but after I wiped away the tears I got to work and I'm so happy that I did that and so my goal is really to Cemex Metcalf as a series or on the big screen as a trilogy.
Ash: Wow that's amazing.
Brian: That's that's where the endgame.
Ash: Does eru Cena fan base picking up that's awesome.
Ash: Yeah.
Brian: It's actually a mint craft is sentient nanotechnology that is injected into certain people and they they'd format to left until another connection to the nanotechnology itself and they can summon it from their skin into being to being like the poster behind me they can create it's like liquid metal I think of Terminator 2 the liquid metal guy from that and they can form it into any shape or weapon or tool they can imagine.
Brian: So there's a whole secret society in Los Angeles Waging War over the best use of this ability and enter Army character who was the first person ever born with this nanotechnology embedded in his DNA everyone else had to go through rigorous injections and science science he's tough and he comes out born with it everyone thinks this guy is going to be a wildcard we don't know what his powers are going to be and sure enough he has powers like nobody else.
Ash: Wow that's awesome.
Brian: When is Way Cool is the new villain who is basically an obsessive cult leader her name is Sasha and been there late 2019 rock band from New Jersey reached out to me and said hey we love your character we love your book Wheel of Sasha can we write a song about this how many books did a song written about them except for Lord of the Rings so I jumped on I said yes please do and this year February 12th or 2021 the band chemical straitjacket released their third album called Dark progression and the opening song is tendril and blade which is Democrats on.
Bret: Oh that's so cool.
Ash: That's so cool.
Brian: It is it is a hard-driving crazy good I was like the song is amazing.
Ash: Wow.
Brian: I was so humbled and so honored to that they did that.
Bret: Yeah it's super cool.
Ash: How cool would it be that you get to make the movie and then you like get the you put the song in it you know like it just all comes full circle.
Brian: Right right.
Pat: Play the trailer to or something.
Ash: Yeah I be so cool.
Brian: Olivia LG outstanding dream come true.
Brian: Dream come true.
Pat: Very very cool well.
Pat: Speaking of.
Pat: Fighting.
Bret: The entire set Titan Pat tired and Pat.
Ash: Dreams come true.
Brian: Here it is Segway.
Pat: Now they say his feet well I mean allow me to make the first of what I'm sure is going to be many jokes in this vein of I don't know how we're going to do this episode y'all.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: I don't think we're going to talk about it.
Brian: You're not supposed to talk about it.
Pat: Are we going to how can we talk about it.
Bret: You can't it's literally against the rules.
Pat: Yeah.
Brian: Literally two of them.
Ash: Podcast over.
Brian: Nice talking to you guys.
Pat: Brentwood you're funny movie town next week we watch know we are watching Fight Club.
Brian: I would hold out.
Sam: I know.
Ash: Which was it was a movie pole that we did we haven't time to pull in a while guys so thank you everyone who participated and I have to say I was shocked Big Fish came in second totally thought that children of men would be inside not that big fisheye lens Big Fish too but I was like woah.
Ash: So almost Sam.
Sam: One day.
Bret: I feel like Children of Men whenever I bring it up people you like I never saw that.
Brian: They're all good they're all good choices.
Sam: Haha.
Sam: Alright.
Ash: Really oh it was it was totally a filmmaker yeah Children of Men was like a filmmaker movie where like if you were in Phillips school when it came out everyone wins but but it was closed two guys it was Fight Club was 33. 3.
Bret: I didn't vote for either of those.
Sam: I voted for big fish I actually voted in one when you me.
Ash: Nice.
Sam: Using Twitter.
Ash: That you know of.
Pat: Brett and I were very good we didn't try to influence the the poles I didn't.
Pat: I didn't I didn't try to influence the vote I can only do.
Bret: Not in a way we could see.
Brian: I was pumping mastering the whole thing.
Pat: No.
Bret: Imagine Pats like on Nextdoor like hey Neighbors.
Brian: Hahaha.
Ash: Is next-door hey Twitter Neighbors.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: I went door-to-door in my neighborhood like I see your phone.
Ash: I can't imagine anything worse.
Brian: All my friends and said I I can't talk about it but you should go to this pole info.
Bret: But yes.
Pat: So you got some stuff for us to talk about.
Bret: I got I got all that stuff but.
Ash: The hostess with the mostess.
Bret: No I guess that the question the question one is Wi-Fi Club this was a Brian suggestion.
Ash: Oh yeah Brian you brought this you yes you brought this to the table.
Brian: See it comes back to me.
Ash: Wow.
Brian: Well I love that your podcast is essentially a re-watch of something a little older in to see if it holds up and my experience of Fight Club is Ison theaters by myself on a work day I identify little early and I went through down and watched it and my mind was blown It's 1999 I'd never seen anything like this and I did not see that the twists and I couldn't believe it then I the same day I saw that it was based on a book I like well wait a minute.
Brian: So I went and grabbed the book the same day and read it continuously until I was done and that's the only time my life where I feel.
Brian: For me the book and the movie are equally strong even though they're almost completely different areas.
Ash: Oh wow interesting.
Brian: I was at a satisfied with both.
Bret: Yeah some stuff very different.
Ash: Wow.
Brian: So I when you guys when you guys invited me to the show as like what could what movie could be a good re-watch and that was one of the few that I had in mind.
Sam: An excellent pick also.
Ash: Yeah the pole seem sorry yeah great pic.
Sam: The author is a Portland author to so extra special for us.
Brian: Well there we go.
Ash: Oh I didn't know that the scene we did for the pole that I don't think most people picked up on was book adaptations in a book-to-screen adaptation so that was the same cuz I think a lot of people were like this is wild these choices to put against each other.
Bret: Fight Club versus Big Fish yeah I could see that.
Ash: Yeah.
Brian: I've heard that.
Bret: It's funny that were already comparing the book and the movie because it's my first my first good trivia fact before we get into that some of the other stuff or was that a Chuck Palahniuk actually says that he thinks the movies way better than the book.
Ash: Wow.
Bret: So this is Ruby watching the the authorized best version.
Ash: No need to read the book then.
Brian: I'll have to say it you know it is amazing how David Fincher was able to visualize some of the things in the book back and read like how was he able to do that and it just pulled it off so well.
Pat: I'm aware that should do that.
Ash: Wow.
Brian: Nice.
Pat: Interesting.
Bret: Yeah there's a lot of crazy visuals in this a lot of my a lot of my notes r44 other parts of the show about the visuals but there's a whole bunch of like Nifty CG stuff via the opening scene of the film is a along CD thing that they actually budgeted separate from the movie that apparently they only got approved to do the intro the way they did after the rest of the movie was cut in the studio is like okay fine you can have the money for that I want to give you one for one trivia fact before we do money game because I think it'll change your thoughts on what you guys for the money game here but the.
Ash: We're going to talk about the cats too.
Ash: Okay.
Ash: Who didn't.
Bret: I should be doing it will check list cast and crew who's in it who didn't obviously shut Palahniuk.
Pat: Some guy named Bradley.
Bret: Yes I checked on MacArthur director David Fincher already discussed we got Edward Norton we got bonham-carter.
Sam: Elena.
Ash: Oh really Helena yeah.
Pat: Wait ask if you seen have you seen this.
Ash: Yes I've seen this I just don't I didn't remember that she was in it.
Bret: She was almost several different actresses.
Bret: I think she was the the backup they were going to try and get Reese Witherspoon.
Sam: Owiyo choice.
Brian: Really.
Ash: Oh no no no.
Pat: Interesting.
Bret: And actually that was like we want you in this and she's like this is too dark for me.
Sam: Yes accurate.
Ash: Yeah which is interesting cuz she did Virgin Suicides which I mean that's pretty dark bright.
Sam: But like I think it's a character thing.
Brian: I think if you asked Reese Witherspoon now she would definitely probably be more in line to do it.
Brian: Verses in her back in 1999.
Sam: Agreed.
Sam: Also the characters a little gritty for her I feel.
Ash: Yeah that's true.
Bret: Would be weird.
Pat: I'm trying to picture some of the lines that that character says coming out of Reese Witherspoon and it's like.
Brian: I can't I can't even.
Pat: Baby very discordant.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: Meatloaf right.
Bret: Yeah we got meatloaf.
Sam: Really.
Bret: Milos mssa as not a main character very close.
Pat: His name is Robert Paulson.
Sam: Okay he's the gut okay I'll just say.
Sam: Best meatloaf.
Sam: Really.
Ash: What.
Sam: Must be a young baby.
Pat: That's right I forgot.
Brian: You too f****** blond.
Ash: I forgot.
Bret: Yeah he's he's the pretty the pretty one.
Sam: What.
Ash: Oh interesting.
Bret: And I could say other names and you wouldn't know who they were because it's kind of a small movie like for the number of actual people on screen and involved in the plot it's kind of just camera on Brad Pitt and Edward Norton and Helena Bonham Carter the whole time.
Bret: It's available a little claustrophobic acting-wise but I think we'll see why that is notable people.
Bret: And then and then before money game.
Ash: Well.
Ash: Jesus.
Bret: Be at the fun fact about the production of this is filming lasted a hundred and thirty-eight days they had over 300 scene shot on 200 locations and 72 sets and they used 1500 reels of film which is apparently twice as much film as is normally used on a production of this size.
Ash: Yeah that's a lot.
Brian: That's unreal.
Bret: So they did a lot for this.
Ash: What was the shooting ratio I Wonder Lake is that because they did a lot of tapes or there's just a lot of shots.
Ash: Jesus Christ wow.
Pat: Holyshit.
Bret: I know some of the scenes some of the trivia that I didn't include if you shot that were like 2021-22 takes it just couldn't get it quite right so.
Bret: Fat.
Ash: Interesting okay cuz it like I feel like an average shooting ratio with film is like five takes I think so that is a loss.
Pat: They spent almost half a year just filming it.
Bret: Yeah yeah.
Pat: Holyshit.
Ash: Wow.
Brian: There's one time shortly after the movie came out during the Press kits Brad Pitt was saying that this was the best film he will ever make now wonder if he still thinks that.
Brian: Pretty and interesting at the time.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Yeah.
Bret: I'll give you I'll give you one more to I didn't write down the actual number but Brad Pitt got paid like five times as much as Edward Norton to be in this.
Sam: Yeah.
Ash: Wow I'm going to kiss I mean say 80 billion.
Pat: Exactly.
Ash: I read your mind I stole it.
Bret: He got keep in mind.
Pat: How much of a deck do I want to be.
Bret: How many years ago was.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: But yeah there's Fiji and live-action and I'm just trying to throw all the all the thoughts.
Ash: So I'm wrong it's what he just said.
Brian: I'm going to say.
Pat: What people start guessing once people start guessing you're not allowed to color it bro.
Brian: I'm going to say fifty-five million.
Bret: 55.
Ash: You said 55 million.
Brian: That seems low but yeah but that seems low by thinking that in that late 90s era that was high.
Brian: Or that kind of movie.
Pat: I'm saying that that time Sam would you like to go or do you want me to go would you like to go give an idea.
Sam: I'm going to get 62 million.
Ash: Okay.
Pat: I'm going to cut ash off 81 million.
Ash: OU Jerrick.
Brian: Brutal brutal.
Bret: Well that would put Sam is the winner 63.
Bret: I won.
Sam: Look at me go wow.
Pat: Hey gal.
Brian: Wow nice.
Ash: Wow.
Sam: Alright.
Bret: Big numbers.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Yeah I felt like 80 was high but you said the film like the amount of filled and the amount of time I was like Dear God.
Bret: Yeah it's so much right.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: It almost seems like to pay all of those people for all of that time it would have been more expensive even than the 60 but alright so we're just going to both of these at once now maybe opening weekend opening weekend.
Bret: How did this how is this received.
Sam: When did it open.
Pat: It's either going to be terrible or amazing the fact that you're adding opening weekend that we never do opening weekend it's either going to be.
Pat: Stupid good or bad.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: Well it's like what is it is it is it did it have all the hype and then people stopped caring about it did it have no hype and then it was a big or did it have like hype and then it was phenomenal there's three options here Pat.
Sam: But we know it didn't do terrible and then terrible.
Bret: Oh yeah terrible and terrible two.
Ash: What how did the book had to have been.
Sam: Okay.
Ash: I came out in October by the way Sam I just looked it up.
Bret: It's a September on my thing but whatever those are closed anyway later in the year.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: The book was 96.
Ash: But Vinny the quest of the book must have been successful enough for them to make a movie out of it so there was a fanbase.
Sam: All right so is such a popular book that they made this movie three years later released this movie three years later which means.
Bret: Found it for half.
Pat: That's yeah six months of that is felt.
Sam: So like within the year that you had this planned to be a film so it must have been a pretty big book.
Sam: I'm going to guess opening-weekend 80 mil.
Bret: Unix.
Sam: The tie.
Ash: Wow I'm going with 65 kassav took mine and I'm taking her.
Pat: Brian do you want to go.
Ash: That makes sense that makes sense.
Brian: I remember if I sent her called they had a real problem with the marketing that did not know how to Market this movie at all they were just cashing in on on Brad Pitt's name and it did dismal and I'm going to say 13 million.
Brian: I want to say 3 million but I think that's too loud he was third maybe like 13 million.
Bret: Opening.
Pat: This is opening weekend I'm going to say.
Pat: 30.
Ash: Okay.
Ash: Oh no.
Ash: Oh no.
Bret: Okay so they did have a problem advertising the film in that David Fincher at wanted to advertise it a specific way and had a full campaign ready to go and the fox was just like we don't like that and so they made a bunch of Brad Pitt Centric advertising and but the bulk of the advertising was focused around the fights and the trailers were just fights from the movie which isn't really a big part of the movie actually and a lot of the trailers played during just the UFC fights on TV was pissed because do that shity advertising they did only make.
Pat: O'Brien.
Sam: Brian good job.
Ash: O'Brien.
Brian: Wow there there it is.
Ash: From downtown.
Brian: There it is as brutal brutal opening.
Bret: Right.
Ash: So that was world or gross is that what you're saying is next is gross.
Sam: Rosie no.
Ash: Oh my God.
Bret: Also also there's this thing where I guess Rosie O'Donnell this is back when she was at her show and I guess she went on her show and did a whole thing on the movie was the movie just randomly this weekend and it was horrible and then proceeded to spoil the whole ending for everyone.
Brian: All that's right that's right I forgot you did that oh my God.
Bret: Movie had a little bit.
Ash: Continuing to be a real gem.
Bret: Stop working against it here worldwide.
Ash: Worldwide gross right or opening weekend.
Pat: I mean how to be successful.
Bret: Worldwide total.
Ash: Okay.
Pat: 125 million.
Bret: Okay.
Ash: 130.
Sam: Worldwide I'm going to guess it only clocked in at 60 mil.
Bret: Brian take us home.
Brian: I think it was about 90.
Bret: Brian you're killing it today but if they got a hundred off of this one.
Sam: Alright.
Pat: Dang it.
Ash: Nice nice.
Brian: Considering and they considered a loss.
Brian: It do have.
Bret: Yes certainly they spent more money at the end of the day than they made.
Pat: Really.
Pat: I feel like I had to it was a big.
Brian: Did it ever recoup and DVD rentals and the cult static outstanding and is in now.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: It probably has made money but that's not the numbers they give you on boxofficemojo.
Bret: Usually the atom.
Brian: Is that mean I was in this movie is elevated like a cult status a cult film status now.
Ash: Oh totally I mean this movie is one of the few movies that they use in film school that they're like you know this is an example of good work type of thing.
Bret: It's got a lot of really cool cinematography if I remember correctly just like the visuals are expand out.
Brian: Yes it made Fincher one of my favorite directors.
Ash: He's very good.
Bret: So I've got not a lot of trivia but some fun ones here apparently of the author Chuck Palahniuk came up with the idea because he was beating up on a camping trip when he complained to some nearby campers about the other noise.
Ash: Oh no.
Bret: And when he got back to work he had a black eye and was all busted up and no one at his work asked and what happened to him.
Pat: Other like two awkward like they just is too uncomfortable to even talk about it and and.
Ash: Wow.
Sam: That's so very Portland.
Bret: And he says that he is super Portland.
Sam: Yeah beat up on a camping trip and then everyone at work is like this is normal.
Bret: Yeah right in the woods.
Pat: Read the number thousand.
Bret: Just don't.
Ash: What's Cupid's grade.
Pat: I don't get it why is it useful so much money on the equipment to just get you going to put a ton of time and energy and effort and money into almost getting the feeling of just being at home like it's just like at home.
Ash: Well I have spent like no money on equipment it is just all things people have given me.
Bret: I just feel like you can take all the constituent parts of camping and do them separately and they're way better like just going outside wonderful do I want to cook over a fire do a little barbecue heck yeah but like spending the night outside like.
Pat: Backyard.
Bret: Why not.
Bret: But yeah anyway that bizarre non interaction Palahniuk cluded that the reason that people reacted that way is because if they asked him what happened degree of personal interaction would be necessary and his workmates simply didn't care enough to connect with them on a personal level which is super the theme of this whole movie for sure.
Bret: I remember I'll at least that was really heavy in the book or is just like.
Brian: Busty toxic masculinity.
Pat: I mean.
Bret: Toxic masculinity thing and the American Psycho like do I even exist like this anyone even notice anything about me kind of vibe so.
Ash: Oh no.
Pat: I mean this movie is that the message this is movies like bro-bro Hall of Fame movie like I'm a little more a little what's the word I'm looking for like cautious skeptical you know like I don't know because my movie in my mind I want this movie into like Boondock Saints like I love this when I was a teenager in college bro Pat love this movie so.
Brian: I have a philosophy about this.
Ash: Uh-oh throw acid it as well and now I'm really worried.
Bret: The fair is some elements of this movie that.
Ash: So interesting.
Bret: Ino what I this is slightly very good to my predictions but I don't think I'm not so certain that the movie will evade poorly as our perceptions of why we liked it I have a poorly I think it might still be good at the at the end of it but you might hate who you used to be after watching it again.
Pat: I like like why you like why you like it and what you get from it or different.
Bret: Yeah this is going to be like.
Brian: It's kind of like if you think Brad Pitt is the hero that's that's the wrong play you didn't get it and if you watch it and if we watch it now we're going to say oh I love this because rapid is not the hero kind of ideas.
Brian: The Bro vs nombro attitude about watching it I guess.
Ash: Yeah.
Ash: Wow.
Bret: I see others other trivias also apparently most of the the specifics stuff of the movie all of it was true and from stories from Chuck Palahniuk friends and stuff that he's done in his life.
Sam: The soup.
Ash: Wait like meatloaf is true all the soup ohgod the soup.
Sam: No.
Bret: The soup wasn't specifically mentioned but like a lot of that Montage chaos apparently actually happened the examples noted work the splicing frames of pornography in the family films or attending the support groups for the terminally ill or the scene where they erase video tapes at the video store in the movie Ed Norton punches Brad Pitt in the ear he actually punched Brad Pitt in the ear.
Pat: I think of her.
Ash: I feel like I've heard that too.
Bret: Yeah.
Pat: But they are real reaction real.
Bret: So look out for that that'll be fun to see.
Brian: I love that.
Brian: I love knowing that.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: Let's roll into memories and predictions what do you remember about this from your past and how do you think it's it was going to happen today I want to kick it off Ashley you want to go.
Ash: Sure now that I'm seriously really scared about my I was going to say like guys I don't know how much we're going to have to say cuz this movie is fantastic and I think it's like a great movie and now I'm like kind of thought about or forgot about the toxic masculinity and masculinity so that problem but my my memory of this film is from Film School it was one of those films that like you know I said that they showed us in class but it's possible that it was just one of the films that like everyone in film school was like you have to watch this and maybe it was just like you know when you went to film School the things you would get bullied for work if you had not seen some cinematic Masterpiece you know so I saw this in film School film school so that was great so I I didn't see the twist coming either I don't think and I just love your remember seeing this and I feel like I saw seven pretty close so you do like to see this movie as well and David Fincher just has like this really unique style and he's he's so interesting as like a Storyteller so I think I'm going to enjoy the film I am very concerned though because you listed a lot of things I do not remember and I do not think I've seen this film since then so yeah a little slightly concerned Boondock Saints.
Ash: I don't think so though right God I hope not.
Ash: Okay.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: Whatever might be wrong with this movie there's no way it's as problematic as The Boondock Saints and what was wrong with that movie which we talked about it the listeners are familiar but Brian if you haven't Watch the Boondock Saints in awhile to remember.
Brian: I'm going to be really bad and admit that I have never seen that movie.
Pat: Okay you're okay without it.
Ash: Well don't start now don't start now.
Bret: The hero the heroes of the movie r.
Brian: Really cuz I have a lot of friends I love friends who say it's the best.
Pat: It's.
Bret: They are religious terrorists.
Ash: Yeah it's.
Ash: Here's the thing is Willem Dafoe is like a national treasure in that film but is also problematic to trans people so it's what which is a whole other thing we didn't cover.
Brian: Okay.
Ash: That like it could be yeah it's all sorts of like bro.
Ash: Male toxic all sorts of stuff.
Pat: Star Episode though it goes on like the Hall of Fame is like the biggest change in like tone from the first half to the second half.
Ash: Yeah it was.
Brian: Oh no I'm going to go back and listen to that.
Pat: But.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: Yeah the the tragedy of it was either we watched it like 2 days after the that New Zealand shooting where the shooter like filmed himself and then that happened in the movie like this was the bad just everything about this is bad.
Ash: The overall like like plot like the idea of the movie is these guys decide who is good and who is bad and they're going to go kill the bad people but then it pulled like it brings into question like who are they to decide who's good and bad and are they really good people and like and then it really starts to get.
Ash: Terrible.
Ash: No no no.
Pat: No.
Bret: But those are questions that the movie doesn't actually ask you at all.
Brian: Wow okay.
Pat: I just assumes you're on their side.
Ash: Yeah so that's why it's problematic the main highlight is bad.
Bret: About anyway.
Brian: Glitter in blank during addresses and anyway.
Bret: No.
Ash: No it's some of the characters do really shity things and you're like this is not a good person so okay anyway sorry listeners who's already had to struggle and listen to us talk about this every time we bring it up.
Ash: Yes.
Bret: That's like our own personal show PTSD here is just like that's the one we can't get over.
Brian: It sounds like it it sounds tragic.
Ash: We were so excited.
Pat: We'll just cuz just cuz Ash and I were super like hype like love this movie and then we come back with our Tails between our legs like.
Brian: Sad puppy.
Pat: We were bad.
Ash: Yeah I never want that to happen again I'm so scared.
Pat: But.
Sam: I don't think this will be it.
Pat: Yay what do you think Sam.
Ash: Yeah.
Sam: Only if seen this once and it was in college with Brett when we broke into a hotel under age in Reno just to watch movies together.
Pat: You were doing your own Project Mayhem.
Ash: Wow.
Sam: It was a whole ordeal.
Sam: We didn't break in break-in but Brett.
Bret: What story are you telling.
Sam: Brett mom booked us.
Ash: Oh you're walking it back you're walking it back now.
Sam: He didn't break it but we did have to sneak end because press mom booked us a night in a Casino in Reno but we didn't know that they wouldn't let anyone under Twenty-One check-in we were only like 18 19 at the time.
Bret: So we had to literally do Home Alone.
Sam: Yeah we did or like her parents are just driving separate they're going to check in and there but they're way behind and it's going to be dark and they were like okay you promise or like he has.
Sam: A charm about it I don't know I did I did like it.
Bret: That was supposed to eat at Chanel fmovies.
Sam: No no.
Sam: No.
Ash: Inclina.
Pat: It's.
Sam: Enamore punk-rock start away.
Brian: That's not bad.
Pat: I feel like the.
Ash: Helena Bonham Carter kind of is probably the better actress to use their right I can never say her name right whatever it is.
Pat: Helena Bonham Carter.
Bret: What Miss Miss Bellingham.
Ash: Bonham Carter.
Pat: Have more.
Sam: I really don't remember much night mean memory of it is the ending and the Pixies song.
Bret: That's only part that anyone remembers.
Sam: Yeah.
Bret: Shut it down.
Pat: I feel like you don't pay enough attention the fact that Reno and casino rhyme knows the city follow casinos their Reno casinos.
Ash: What is happening stop it.
Sam: I broke Pat.
Brian: Stay on target stay on target.
Ash: Fired.
Pat: I want to go to a Reno Casino.
Pat: Buffets Reno Casino isn't playing through my head.
Bret: Brian.
Ash: At the Reno Casino.
Bret: Good God.
Brian: Here we go now we got Vegas now.
Brian: I got derailed.
Bret: Tell us what you thought.
Brian: Dude I don't know I had many years out of that fight theaters I just was compelled by the even though they're marking was terrible I saw the ad is that I have to see this and it was nothing like the ad of course which was great and I was blown away I just couldn't believe they were addressing these things like that back then you know 20-something Brian was like.
Brian: Yeah yeah I was I was told I'd be a rockstar I was told I'd be a movie star. It didn't happen and I'm pissed just like Brad Pitt said that whole thing and so connected and I didn't realize she really was addressing the toxic masculinity he was holding up to a spotlight.
Brian: Saying look this is Dad this is dangerous looking wet look how far I can push this and just this so I think my memory of it I was like awesome it was amazing and then I think the way it's going to hold up I feel that are when we come back from this we're going to be saying at least this is not blue not think this one did hold a spot light up and and show us how really Sinister that toxic masculinity can be as well as kind of a corkie Sweet Love Story do I dare say.
Brian: Given the end of it or do I do I dare go out on that limb.
Sam: I think that's fair.
Ash: There.
Brian: But I thought the acting was superb I thought everything was you know.
Brian: Heading home as everything as it has a penguin that slides I mean it has everything.
Bret: Is a penguin.
Pat: Yeah you'll see.
Ash: What pick would not remember this movie.
Sam: I do not remember the penguin either.
Brian: Oh oh just wait all you just just just wait.
Brian: I have a confession to.
Pat: Oh no Brian what did you do Brian that was not that was.
Brian: So I I've seen this movie.
Ash: Oh no this is danger danger this is not good.
Pat: You buddy.
Brian: I see this movie probably close to 30 times Maybe.
Pat: Okay.
Brian: Just because.
Ash: Oh okay well then you're making me feel better about it.
Brian: Maybe 40 the writing is so solid the directing is so solid and the acting is so solid in the end I was I love that I didn't see the ending coming this way if I didn't lie love that they got me.
Sam: I feel like we need to make you sign a waiver that says if I bring my most favorite film to the table and you ruin it for me I will not hold you liable for financial damages.
Brian: Yeah we come back and we come back.
Sam: Yeah.
Ash: Cuz we have ripped some people's favorites to shreds man painful.
Brian: If we come back and you see maybe I shouldn't have said anything can we just edit that out.
Brian: Well now let's.
Ash: But you made me feel better at the same time cuz you were like your life but I've seen it 30 times and I was like okay well then it must be good right cuz he see that that he's clearly remembers.
Brian: Let's not get carried away let's save that judgment for afterwards.
Brian: You guys might look at me with a whole different you know I after this you see this 30 times what's wrong with you why is your wife still with you.
Brian: She does not like the movies.
Brian: Understandably.
Ash: Oh oh wait a minute till back in the concern.
Sam: Because she thinks it's a bad movie or because it's just not her taste.
Brian: It's the expertise Alissa Violet stands why I like.
Pat: I am.
Pat: Optimum overall optimistic I mean.
Pat: Cut to the chase.
Pat: I think it's going to be a net positive everyone I think it's going to be we're going to Joy I think is going to be a few things maybe I think it's going to be a good time I'm going to be a lot of really pretty juicy moviemaking stuff to a discussed that has some a few pieces here and there that don't hold up from like a problematic as long as you like acknowledging like I love Blade Runner but there is a really really really really really really really really problematic moment in that move sheet.
Brian: I agree.
Pat: But it seems like as long as you acknowledge that.
Pat: So as not to like permeate through the entire movie cuz then that's a problem but if it's like a moment here or there that you like that probably wasn't a great choice but I think all in all of a few things to maybe discuss but I think it's going to do is going to do okay.
Brian: This is very prophetic but we just had a small earthquake here in Orange County.
Ash: Oh s*** well.
Pat: Oh.
Brian: Yeah it wasn't that far but I was just.
Pat: If we if the five of us had any guts any real guts the second half of this episode just before T5 minutes of silent and then Brett signing us off.
Bret: Good grief patnoe.
Ash: Or we could just talk about soap for 45 minutes Brett what are you going to what do you remember / sayings.
Ash: Just about life.
Bret: I also watch this movie tens of times multiples of the dens when I was younger because it was one of like only a couple of movies that I ever bought myself before I moved out of the house you know it's one of those like put it on in the background and ones.
Ash: Oh.
Bret: I have a lot of thoughts about how this movie goes and I think it's best summed up in advance what what I'm expecting cuz I don't want to status don't want to say a bunch of s*** and then have a color that the re-watch for you guys cuz I put some thought into this previously.
Pat: Confessions of a dangerous mind.
Bret: And I feel like this is Charlie Kaufman Parable riding in which it did its job too well wear it it found a real problem and then wrote characters in that were bad people and who do bad things but you're supposed to connect with them and then later on realize that oh they were wrong I guess I my opinions around like have a learning moment but I think the movie they made the the Chaos Tattoo appealing in this and a lot of people were just like yeah the bad dancer is the right answer and so I'm I think that's where I'm curious if it's apparent in the writing that the bad answer was actually the bad answer or if they really played it up as I remember it to be that the bad thing was cool and that's what I'm that's what I'm looking forward to that's what I'm going to be paying attention that the soundtrack is going to be dope with Chemical Brothers and.
Sam: Chemical Brothers.
Ash: The Pixies.
Brian: Dutch Brothers.
Bret: Yeah and pixies and Dust Brothers sorry what I say.
Sam: Different band.
Bret: I think I'm going to like it.
Brian: I should buy the soundtrack to.
Pat: Alright.
Bret: Listen to the soundtrack to This Bundchen it's a good I think it's going to be good for Hollywood and I'm just curious about how the writing will go but that's at that's that so if that's where we're going to leave it we're going to pause the recording and go watch Fight Club and find something else to talk about when we get back.
Sam: Respond by.
Pat: A Coffee Shop version of it.
Brian: Aaron is little singer-songwriter.
Bret: Shatner read the lyrics without singing them version.
Ash: I can't hit that. Either.
Pat: Where Is My Mind.
Brian: Who would you fire you can find celebrity who'd you fight Shatner.
Bret: Where Is My Mind.
Brian: Even at this age.
Brian: I agree.
Ash: Dude I bet Shatner would kick people's asses I bet he yeah.
Sam: Back when I was.
Pat: Disney short.
Brian: I don't know.
Sam: A little I don't remember we.
Bret: I don't remember we were once in the same building as.
Pat: Not necessarily.
Ash: I'm sorry Pat I'm sorry hold on does does shortness mean he can't kick someone's ass what you replying.
Bret: What shortness would imply that the only thing they could kick is the ass.
Ash: Okay.
Brian: But your people can be very Wiley you know he can get wiry in there.
Sam: So when I was in college I went to the animation Awards and Tom Kenny the voice of SpongeBob re-enacted the famous Star Trek fight scene with Shatner and it was amazing.
Ash: LOL.
Sam: Complete with the foam rock it was glorious.
Bret: Really.
Pat: Oh I know I watched it this year it's slow cuz I watch other stuff and I can't watch them back-to-back this definitely slower-paced I am watching the original Star Trek Run for the first time ever.
Bret: How's it going.
Brian: Yeah that's perfect way to describe it.
Brian: Certainly.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Pat: Bit by bit Yeah there's there's there's a lot of misogyny the man the male-female dynamic is not great I understand it's like 40 years old 50 years old but it's.
Brian: Problematic.
Pat: It's not great yeah.
Sam: Try that again how old is it.
Pat: 50 years old.
Pat: Party song.
Sam: Isn't it from the 60s.
Brian: It was like 7.
Brian: Mid-70s.
Pat: Yeah that that would be they'll be 50 years old though it's like late 60s.
Ash: That would be 50 years ago.
Sam: So it's late sixties okay.
Pat: I think it was like 60 it blew my mind though there only three seasons of the original run.
Sam: Yes that crazy.
Pat: It's something I just would have guessed was like 9 Seasons 13 seasons.
Sam: Cuz there's like 20 of next-gen right.
Bret: 7.
Pat: A lot.
Pat: Okay.
Ash: Welcome to the Star Trek podcast you didn't know you were listening to.
Pat: You went a whole Boondock Saints diatribe right before we watch the movie.
Ash: It was related.
Sam: He says he would like to beat up William Shatner that's how we got here.
Brian: Do the smooth segue.
Pat: Yeah I could be that way. Come on I could be there.
Bret: Why you could definitely be able and shatter the question.
Ash: But could you beat up Tyler Durden.
Pat: Oh I had it all.
Brian: Well-conceived imaginary of suppose I could.
Bret: I I I believe that there is such a thing as show abs like Pat's Gotta Wait advantage and I think he would absolutely destroy Brad Pitt.
Brian: Like I was agree with that.
Pat: He's pretty wiry.
Ash: I don't know man he had some kid impressive muscles like.
Ash: They do look good.
Pat: But that that was the point they're supposed to look good.
Ash: Their vanity muscles.
Brian: The ad.
Pat: I caught something real quick isn't that the end of this is just kind of a one-off but I did catch something that could have been a big part of our conversation is going to be about like what is the movie actually trying to say versus what did 900f young men take from it and the moment was with itching is the the one time they get on the bus and they see the underwear ad and he's like is that what a man supposed to look like literally in the next seen you see Brad Pitt looking exactly like the.
Pat: Literally cuts to him standing up from a fight without a shirt and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a trivia that that was actually his torso in the Calvin Klein ad like because it looks exactly the same shape.
Sam: That's funny.
Bret: That's hilarious.
Sam: I didn't think about this in the pre-rolled but because I had only seen this once before this was my first time watching it knowing the twist at the end.
Brian: Okay.
Sam: And so it was super fun particularly with the Marla character to like.
Brian: Yeah how did navigate to that.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Sam: Yeah I just feel like hear her reactions and everything like it sounds so obvious like knowing what happens at the end but at the first time I watched it I was just like I don't get it like oh they just don't like each other you know like they had that friend of me sort of relationship so that was really well done.
Brian: It masterfully executed.
Bret: Monster.
Ash: So.
Ash: And that seemed the logic didn't really work for me where I was like so what's what's really happening here because.
Brian: I think.
Ash: You know what I mean like it how could how was another person interacting with Tyler Durden in that situation.
Brian: I think it's.
Bret: Well that was after they took his bag so he walked out of the building and stole a car is how I read that.
Ash: So he's not.
Pat: Like you're saying he switched he flipped and that was actually.
Bret: Yeah.
Pat: Ed Norton still in the car and the Ed Norton in the.
Pat: Theodore in in the baggage claim at that point was not there cuz he they say like sometimes you imagine your you watching me as you watching me but it's.
Ash: That's true.
Ash: I have one more for you.
Brian: I also think I might have been a second a second red herring the first red herring is on the people-mover straight escalator Italian passes by and I just didn't we see Tyler Durden.
Bret: That sounds like what's that as a fact that I can never ever fact-check because it sounds both scientific and bullshitted that the thing about like you're the human brain can't actually make up a face in like when you dream all of the faces you see are the ones you've seen in real life they're here that.
Pat: Oh yeah sure that.
Brian: I think I heard about that.
Ash: I believe that.
Brian: But even though the people-mover had Tyler Durden we've actually we actually saw him several times before that in the little click little half-second blurbs so he had Tyler in his mind at early early early on.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: Did you catch him also in the at the hotel welcome video.
Ash: It's just.
Brian: Yes and I love how the guys in the white suits became what they were and they in the dining hall when they going to go get the commissioner.
Bret: What was your second one.
Bret: Denise.
Ash: The second one is the the car playing chicken scene and there's two guys sitting in the back of the car and I can believe that he's sitting driving the car having a conversation with himself and his head but the part that doesn't make sense to me is when they interject into the conversation what are they responding to cuz they say the first rule of project so it's like what are they talk like what are they responding to in this scenario.
Ash: You know what I mean like.
Pat: I've always thought that I've always thought that that's the ones I'm really funny you say that cuz that's the one scene I was going to bring up to us like I've always wondered what actually happened in that scene like what yes what.
Ash: Exactly like what is actually happening and that one I can't I cannot come to any sort of logical.
Pat: Unless he's literally vocalizing both sides of the conversation.
Ash: Explanation for.
Brian: That's what I think he's doing.
Bret: I mean that's what I thought.
Ash: Like the whole Converse.
Brian: I think it's his Project Mayhem soldiers all believe I'll know he's kind of kind of cracked but it's also a mad genius so they're used to his talking with him about his incoming conversations with himself.
Pat: That's right yeah.
Bret: Yeah I mean like that's kind of the whole the whole premise of Project Mayhem and the origins of Fight Club is some dudes saw a guy in a parking lot punching himself in the face and said heck yeah but.
Ash: Yeah.
Pat: Which I could totally see that being something that when when he's full on Tyler Durden like fully told her to not even himself watching Tyler Durden he tells them he's like.
Pat: There are two Me's in here.
Pat: So I might be talking to myself you know and I'll tell you when it's the me you'll know what is the mean you can listen to and then like he does at the end where he's like he probably went around there when there's a car from this point on I'm nobody you know you know don't treat me like a don't treat me like the Boston to microliter anything I say doesn't count like I'm done after this part.
Pat: And you can totally tell them like yeah I'm going to talk to myself there's like two versions of me and.
Brian: And when I come down those stairs don't tell me anything about the Project Mayhem bought buildings.
Brian: So does the movie Hall.
Ash: First.
Bret: At the big question what part do you want to talk about the the sent the cinematography do you want to talk more about psychology like what's whatever going to delve into first guys who's got who's got a big topic.
Sam: I would say the one thing that it's starting to be more okay now but the one thing that would not have held up if they released this just two years later or all the buildings blowing up at the end.
Pat: Yep.
Brian: Completely true.
Sam: This is a Olney pre 911 release possibility.
Ash: I have a lot of problems with this movie actually.
Pat: There's something else there that was not great I say there is three things that they're like three things jumped out of me like maybe yeah the buildings.
Pat: Is threatening to shoot at the office or like joke.
Sam: Yeah.
Ash: Oh yes absolutely.
Pat: And then I mean the whole frames from pouring into movie children's movies that feels like that should that's you should go to jail like that all the other stuff.
Bret: And that was on the list of things that happened.
Pat: They said it really happened yeah.
Sam: Especially 1999 Portland.
Ash: I would believe that happens in Portland absolutely.
Ash: Yeah I mean there's there's all that there's I mean there's there's a really really really big I mean there's a hold the hold mail toxicity saying that I do think.
Ash: It's try it is trying to say is not a good thing but there's also a huge mental health problem with this movie where it's framing someone who has a split multiple personality disorder as being a crazy.
Ash: Bad guy and that's kind of not cool like they call him crazy like multiple times and it's like portraying this person is crazy and then it also the message of just shoot yourself in the face and then you're cured of your split personality disorder is a little problematic to me.
Bret: Certainly that resolution although I've slowly coming to to the beside of you know it's okay for people with disabilities to also be evil sometimes if it fits that you do like for the story but yes that resolution is Highly Questionable.
Ash: The resolution note yeah is cuz that's that's not how it works.
Pat: I was honored three shoots like out his job but he's like talking like he's on his cheek as drawn.
Brian: Yeah.
Bret: And I had it.
Pat: It's like.
Ash: And he's yeah he's still able to talk yeah.
Bret: I can't remember how it resolves in the book do you remember.
Brian: It's different in the book it's different in the book there's no shooting himself in the face in the book it something else.
Bret: The whole and sequence doesn't happen.
Pat: Really.
Brian: No baby I don't blow up buildings the whole different kind of big thing and in the end he still Tyler Durden he gets locked up in an institution and he's kind of talking to us saying okay everything's better now I'm kind of things come chill and cool and then the staff comes to give him his dinner and then like you know he or she dinner sir and so you know he's still tired and that's how it ends.
Brian: Istilah Yang still running the show.
Pat: Oh oh in the staff is like his people like that weird of these are interesting.
Pat: Interesting.
Bret: Yeah it's like a dark like Eddie like he thinks he escaped it and then they like the sir.
Ash: So that's that's a more problematic ending then yeah that's maybe worse of an ending to be honest.
Bret: Yeah I know it's her credit but her credit she tries to.
Pat: She was kidnapped and brought it.
Brian: You know that in the check check released Fight Club 2 and 3 and as graphic novels.
Brian: And infants eye Club to Marla is kind of the villain they're still together they live a happy life with kid with a kid and then the white picket fence and then he's got a boring job and she get bored with their life and so she.
Brian: Swapped out his meds keep them cool for placebos and then Tyler Durden calendar and emerges and he's happy cuz oh good here's the fun guy and then of course it gets completely out of control off the rails and even crazier ways in the movie.
Pat: Wow.
Sam: Interesting.
Brian: And she has to be the one she has to be the one to Raining Men.
Ash: Interesting.
Pat: This is controversial Brad Pitt is charming and fun to watch and just really good at way does stepping said it's almost a problem for the movie because if you want.
Pat: If you want to portray something in a way that you'd like oh this is a bad thing I should not emulate this I should not review this don't know Brad Pitt doing it cuz it's going to look great no matter.
Bret: But isn't that isn't that like the greater a commentary on you know stupid b******* that people believe is at the the dumbest most evil s*** is always the most appealing.
Pat: If someone.
Brian: Yeah that's kind of how it's taken is like a pretty package and yet it's going to blow up in your face.
Ash: Yeah I mean you even made the comment at the beginning Brett or you're like oh it's going to portray doing shity things is really cool and I was going to be like aren't shity things always Patricia.
Bret: This is Vista in a very specific way that is a piano hitting the wrong mail on the head I guess I don't even know I don't even know how to talk to the guy about his opinions on on some of this because I threw the book story they're even all of his small asides not even the big stuff just the way he regards the normal everyday people in his life as almost like subhuman and you know at the beginning the copy of a copy of a copy and the him and Mario with the you know people really listen to you instead of just waiting for their turn to speak and it's all like obsession with the the monotony of like all humans and it's just like.
Bret: It's it's it's a whole thing that bugs me because there's a lot of people that are really really like that and the funny the thing that makes it seem self-aware in the movie is that.
Bret: Where they where they take that plotline is all these people that are bored with the monotony of a real life and in nobody wants to talk to you and nobody knows who you are joining a f****** club where do you don't have a name and nobody can talk about anything.
Pat: Hahaha.
Brian: Yes the irony of it.
Bret: Hated that.
Brian: I mean Tyler it's so cringe-worthy.
Brian: Yeah that's me is problematic.
Brian: And what.
Ash: So I have I have a problem with that seeing yeah I mean my my biggest problem with that scene is is that like it's not that easy for a non-white person you know what I mean like what he's like what what's wrong you just can't go to school cuz it's hard just go to school and I was like this is your white privilege is like screaming right now like it's not as easy for this person go ahead.
Brian: Exactly visit him and visit him a six-week and you didn't do it so now you're done.
Pat: Is he allowed to still has a lot of still work when he's going to class cuz he might have bills to pay.
Ash: Yeah yeah I mean that's probably why he's working this job.
Bret: But also like coming to the realization that you just don't want to commit that much time do a thing is also totally fine like.
Pat: Yeah it doesn't this very like as much as supposed to be like anti-capitalist it's it's kind of a.
Pat: Like proclassic capitalism stand for it's like a certain jobs what that's f****** who the f*** would want to do that but like.
Sam: You mean it's Boomer is showing.
Pat: Yeah yes like it's like all you're working as convenience stores like put that the that needs to be done that's a fine job that needs to be done and it's like.
Ash: Or maybe it's his parents store and he's inherited it or and it's a business and he's a business owner likes f*** Godlike who knows you know.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Brian: Well then the one thing when they close the bedroom door in the back of the in the back of the door has dozens of those licenses how many people are they tormenting with this.
Ash: And he says.
Bret: Yeah well it was a group assignment.
Ash: He says that line like you know that the next is this the next day is going to be the best day of this guy's life no it's not going to be the best day that guy's life he's going to have PTSD for the rest of his f****** life that poor thing is going to be traumatized about that are you kidding me no.
Sam: He's going to be paranoid about the next day he's planning a move.
Ash: Yes exactly.
Brian: Yeah that's what you doing you got to get out of this town.
Pat: Checks and balances. Even leave that City just like okay I'm just going to go to another apartment.
Bret: There's this.
Ash: Exactly the poor thing God.
Sam: How to get afford vet school and a new security deposit like and breaking his lease terms.
Pat: Yeah I'll man.
Brian: See Tyler Tyler didn't think that through.
Bret: Yeah.
Pat: The byline of the full movie.
Bret: Now there's that there's a certain demographic of folks though that that's like kind of the life motto you know that that the bootstrappers and the the like that phrase pick yourself up by your bootstraps a literally impossible thing to do.
Brian: Like a false hope.
Pat: Yeah wasn't it quite originally intentionally to be like this isn't something that can be done it was meant ironically originally and then he got just co-opted.
Ash: So interesting.
Pat: Could you really.
Bret: Yeah it's just like a nonsensical thought of self-sufficiency in like you can do whatever you want and succeed and like it's just think about how other people are for a minute please.
Pat: Was indoor smoking that ubiquitous in 1999.
Brian: I think there was.
Pat: Yeah.
Bret: They was banned by then.
Sam: Subway.
Pat: No I mean I don't remember really.
Brian: Not everywhere though.
Ash: I think it depends on your state.
Sam: Yeah.
Sam: Yes.
Ash: I mean cuz it's still legal in Nevada so it probably depends on where you are I'm guessing.
Bret: Their Miami.
Ash: They didn't did they ever really specify where he what I mean I felt like LA but I didn't they didn't really say Miami.
Pat: But really no.
Ash: No.
Pat: Little Chicago.
Pat: Or Detroit if he's an auto company.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Pat: I know for a fact.
Brian: I think they were shining was supposed to Chicago or somewhere Midwest because back in the 90s those those all those credit card kept corporations or in Midwest City Louis or something or someone the Midwest all those buildings were together in that one Financial area of the Midwest made in Detroit is one of those Midwest towns.
Ash: The Google says Los Angeles.
Brian: Yeah.
Pat: I know for weight but there was a plane ticket to Los Angeles and it was like you could read out Los Angeles in the plane tickets use following Tyler.
Brian: Does.
Bret: I thought that's what they were talking about with the the line about isbister Durden building an Army in Miami or thought that was where they were doing the house.
Ash: No they were just.
Brian: What can I use now in armies all over the country.
Ash: Yeah yeah.
Pat: I thought it was a Midway Midway Detroit or Chicago.
Ash: Probably.
Pat: Cuz Luke is Lulu that guy was very cuz Lewisberry Chicago.
Ash: That's true he was.
Sam: Is where.
Bret: The answer is Wilmington Delaware Wilmington Delaware are most credit card companies and 700f Fortune 500 companies are headquartered.
Brian: Lulu always struck me as sort of this cartoony version of a shady business owner of wannabe mafioso he comes in.
Pat: Or do you think he's actually not connected he just has like a dick head business owner who wants to pretend.
Brian: Yeah he has got his little bodyguard with the gun I just talked the whole scene kind of possessing bothers you because it's like why is he going to say yes to Tyler he's just bleeding all over his face is going to send me flip why wouldn't have his guy shoot to get rid of them.
Ash: Totally absolutely.
Pat: Like when I come but just come back.
Brian: Okay you can you can do it here like really but that's good.
Ash: Yeah I mean.
Bret: That line delivery is one of my favorites though that I'm f****** Lou who the f*** are you.
Brian: True that.
Brian: Harmony.
Ash: I need the only argument I could make would be that there's like a roomful of witnesses or people that might outnumber them and so therefore he didn't order him to shoot him but I thought the exact same thing where I was like why doesn't he just if he is like this mafia boss guy was he shoot them.
Pat: There were more people in that basement than bullets in that gun.
Ash: Yes yeah.
Ash: Yeah.
Brian: I take him do something later on like say okay okay let me go and then later on he takes out Tyler we never saw him again there's no repercussions.
Pat: He was busy.
Ash: No that's true.
Brian: Is busy washing the blood off his face.
Pat: Yeah maybe you got got sick maybe he got something.
Brian: Yeah sure he said you don't know where I've been Lou.
Brian: Friend.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Pat: Off that especially the post covid world that scene just like coughing and dripping blood into his mouth play good fat man.
Brian: Scnow.
Brian: He's got right against his ear what the.
Ash: Even the thought of using a payphone felt really like gross.
Brian: Now.
Ash: So there's there's a really really dark moment that I don't know if any of the rest of you noticed but like.
Ash: So Tyler Durden says again and again like oh no one's actually getting hurt you know what I mean like he says that over and over obviously that's not right with the convenience store guy his logic is wrong but there's a moment where he's like cutting out newspaper clippings and I don't know if anyone else noticed this I rewound cuz I was like did that just say what I think it just said.
Bret: Performance artist molested.
Pat: Yeah.
Brian: And my monkey shaved.
Ash: Yes and like I was like holy s*** like so they're sexually abusing people like how none of this is like talk about toxic masculinity like.
Ash: What is happening.
Bret: Yeah.
Ash: So just.
Sam: What did the article say.
Brian: The headline.
Bret: Performance artist molested.
Ash: Yeah.
Brian: Yeah but I like quotes around what are they mean what are they talking about.
Brian: And.
Ash: Were there quotes around it I didn't notice that.
Brian: Yeah yeah and the end of the next one was missing monkeys found shaved.
Brian: I like they're saving monkeys.
Brian: So yeah.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Pat: Is that they were all over the gamut of their their Shenanigans of like others cheeky.
Bret: Well it's Mayhem.
Bret: If you can predict it then you can stop it.
Pat: Lorde.
Brian: Issues issues.
Ash: He was just the Joker right.
Pat: You laugh you had that laugh down.
Ash: She had the Joker Laugh.
Pat: Oh man.
Brian: One of these channeling The Joker when he's doing so that.
Pat: Oh my gosh he is a joker and he's got face scars now like.
Pat: I'm shooting himself.
Bret: Want to know how I got these scars.
Pat: Shot myself in the mouth to kill my imaginary friend I said that be pretty f*****-up thing to hear that that's kind of more f***** up than anything Heath Ledger said.
Ash: Do you have.
Ash: That's pretty messed up.
Brian: Wow.
Bret: Let's get some really well.
Pat: This imaginary imagine he lives Jokers like this imaginary friends tea and you would always tell me to do things that I didn't want to do anymore so I just put the gun in my mouth which was his mouth and I blew his brains out which were almost holy s*** okay if I can terrify.
Bret: PU.
Pat: He's in really good shape.
Brian: And then threw himself down the stairs.
Pat: He's been fighting for a year a year.
Pat: The one shot.
Ash: Yeah absolutely also like how did he drag himself in that like security cam footage it's like a shot where Tyler is supposed to be I can't believe throwing yourself down the stairs stairs but there's like a shot of like Tyler's dragging him Beto and then I was like.
Pat: Were they dragging him by his hair.
Bret: Yeah.
Brian: By the hair.
Ash: Yeah and I was like is it supposed to be like a supernatural thing then is it cuz I just assumed it was multiple personality disorder.
Ash: But that shot makes you question.
Brian: Yeah then does the ideas make us go wait a minute what level are we at here is it what is it that he's he believes in the in the imaginary friends so much that it becomes sort of real and that can do that or it's ambiguous.
Bret: It makes a very convincing plea for Insanity when he goes to court.
Ash: It's all part of the plan this was part of the plan so that when they do take him to court he can say see.
Bret: Outside of just saying like.
Bret: That stuff was visually like super interesting in many places in this like.
Bret: I can break down like you know individual shots on how cool they were but like.
Bret: I don't have to have any like directorial thoughts about what they did with this.
Ash: Actually yeah I mean there's some really interesting.
Ash: Cinematography for sure there's a shot where we like like 180 pan and like from these guys and then we 180 Pam to Tyler going up the stairs but he's like upside-down you know like there's so many things that can really be like metaphors and that they did really interesting late like the shots where Marla and him are having sex and it's like the the like slow shutter effect where it's like ghosts you know kind of trails is so cool but my attention was actually.
Bret: So that was ones that shot in particular at its maybe it was obvious but it was CGI.
Ash: I feel like the CG was was obvious but also like it held up more than I thought it would.
Ash: It probably made people think more like we're so it's not such like a foreign idea to us now you know what I mean versus when it first came out I bet it was like whoa this is mindblowing you know what I mean.
Brian: Mind blown.
Brian: Not.
Bret: I mean I definitely saw the movie first I did not read the book in 1996 when it was released when I was 8 years old.
Pat: I mean Biv impressive you had just from just remember reading level comprehension right that's.
Ash: Yeah.
Brian: Explain a lie wouldn't it.
Pat: O'Brien you have no idea what.
Brian: But I'm in the same boat as bright-eyed I didn't read the book socks.
Ash: Yeah I was going to say you I was going to ask you if this movie and book.
Ash: Left such a lasting impression on you because you are a screenwriter and you know a novelist writer like do you feel like this sort of.
Ash: Propelled you into that direction.
Brian: You have certainly helping in 99 I was just sort of playing with the idea of all I could I can write a movie the people do that and I'll just has a career I could do and I think that was definitely one of The Inspirations the same year the Matrix came out.
Bret: Yeah.
Brian: And I saw the but within a few months of each other and those two combined just dazzled me and enticed me into wanting to create this area could I have been just writing short stories and and one attempted Ava that time.
Brian: But that was like I love I grew up loving movies why wouldn't I write a movie what's wrong with me and so I went that direction.
Bret: Nice.
Ash: Yeah cuz it's kind of like eat a lot of people when it comes to like movie book adaptations a lot of people have loved the book first right and then go to the movie and you had this interesting experiences seen the movie first loving that and then going to the book but still loving the book you know.
Brian: Yeah I find that I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to the book versus movie of the Sunday Times the movie leaves you know 2/3 of the awesomeness of a book out but I kind of like I just forgive it to take the movie for it as a separate piece of entertainment and still the back of my mind love everything about the book that whatever it is I'm reading.
Ash: Nice.
Ash: Oh yeah.
Bret: That's just kind of how I felt when I watched The Dark Tower when they when they did that weird movie adaptation and they went so far out of their way to include a piece like a visual from every book and the Seven book series end of the movie but just completely walked by them I like sometimes literally just like Thursday.
Pat: Liberty walking past the plot.
Bret: It literally yeah.
Bret: My gosh.
Pat: Wait.
Ash: That was so weird cuz they could have milked that right for seven they could have made seven movies I don't understand why they didn't.
Sam: Idris Elba Idris Elba.
Pat: Yeah.
Sam: It was only 90 minutes.
Bret: Yeah they're really squandered that I mean but I also really like the movie it but I might be the only person who like the movie.
Pat: Wait so I'm sorry for being like head under a rock the movie condensed the plot of all seven books to one movie or attempted to.
Bret: Not even they wrote a new movie with stuff that was like they didn't even have anything to do with the books really.
Ash: Yeah with the same characters.
Pat: As Basie like so is really wasn't Dark Tower movie was the movie inspired by Dark Tower.
Sam: It's like yeah exactly.
Bret: Did you read those did you read those.
Ash: Yeah it's like Taco Bell is Mexican food.
Pat: I read the first this is this is like Blasphemous I read the first one I read the first Dark Tower book and then wasn't motivated to keep going.
Pat: Okay okay.
Bret: The first one.
Pat: Yeah.
Sam: It's so bad it's only like a hundred and twenty pages and I've been reading it for like five years and I can only handle like 10 pages a year it's.
Brian: Ouch.
Ash: Wow.
Bret: It's really the first ones really bad.
Sam: Typepad.
Sam: No.
Pat: Okay so that's all I'm not the weirdo then I don't.
Bret: No I think it speaks around like 3 and then kind of goes back down but anyway.
Pat: Okay well I'm not going to invest that that's up that's the.
Bret: Three's really good though just saying yeah but movies tend to leave Alyssa hey guys would you be interested in playing a little game of lion Bebe.
Ash: Yes.
Brian: Yes yes.
Pat: Yeah I thought you were going to do it as like or we not doing it I don't want to yeah.
Brian: Nice.
Pat: As per.
Brian: Okay lay it on me can't wait.
Bret: I'm going to tell you three facts that I got from IMDb and astris IMDB's let us really far stray sometimes so it may be more than one of these is a lie but for sure one of these three I made up so here are the facts.
Bret: The ice cave scene the breath that you see that they CG didn't there because it wasn't that cold was actually Leonardo DiCaprio CG breath from when he was dying in the Titanic.
Sam: Oh that's good.
Pat: Play they just copy-pasted.
Bret: Reuse assets.
Sam: That's good.
Pat: Copy file face.
Ash: Like The Wilhelm scream but like breasts.
Pat: Leo breath the Leo breath.
Bret: Number two.
Bret: The most dangerous thing that happened while filming the movie was the 6 and 1/2 ton steel ball that they did for the destroying a corporate work of art scene rolled off course and hit someone's car.
Sam: What's that Nazi.
Ash: Oh boy I can't believe that for sure.
Bret: And number three is the book Fight Club coined the term snowflake as we hear it used derogatorily today.
Sam: I believe that because they said that in the movie.
Pat: Yeah.
Pat: Man.
Sam: I think the Indiana Jones gold ball.
Ash: Wait hold on Sam it doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like your Mike is working.
Bret: Yeah it's not pointing at you anymore.
Ash: Oh there you go sorry.
Sam: It's because my babies in the way.
Brian: Barigo I know the answer.
Bret: Okay let's do it let's do it.
Pat: Okay you go last Ryan.
Ash: Wait so goal at we-we-we brightness to go last if you know the answer.
Ash: What was.
Pat: It's a little breath thing is not true Brett my hat goes off to you cuz that is some creativity like.
Pat: Let me think that is like.
Ash: The thing is is someone who works in post and like that makes total sense cuz it's like why rebuild assets why not have a bank of.
Pat: I am going to pick you made up the the ball hitting a car.
Bret: Okay.
Sam: Yeah that was my guess too.
Brian: That is my guess as well.
Bret: Astrid YouTube the gas.
Ash: Interesting I have not guessed yet but Sam guess.
Pat: The three of us are all on team ball.
Bret: Ombak.
Sam: Team Golden Ball.
Ash: On-the-ball tee-ball.
Ash: I guess the snowflake one cuz that doesn't sound right to me.
Bret: The the the breath was from Titanic.
Pat: Okay.
Bret: And the word snowflake has been used as an insult for a long time.
Bret: But.
Ash: Oh I don't whip.
Pat: We all win.
Pat: Yeah.
Ash: Wow.
Sam: Wow.
Ash: Oh that makes a lot of sense.
Brian: True facts.
Pat: Wow.
Ash: Oh my God.
Bret: I know it was it was used for the first time in the book this way so it that the fake fact was the ball because of all the only weigh 200 lbs because they were going to do a giant heavy ball but the they found out that the ground actually couldn't support in they would have destroyed the entire Plaza so they made a hundred pound ball I wish they couldn't keep on course and they had people in VFX suits run down and pulling it on ropes towards the building and as it bounced down the stairs that bounced up into the air too high to be believable so they actually went in and had people like Roto it down to the ground while it was roaring so there's a ton of CG in that scene and that's why it kind of looks fake but also kind of looks real is because.
Sam: Interesting.
Ash: Cuz it's both that's amazing.
Ash: Yeah.
Brian: Knowing all they went through actually looks pretty good the end product came out pretty good.
Ash: Oh.
Bret: The only stuff that totally faking that scene was the stuff that the ball hit inside the building the chairs in the tables but they actually crashed through the window and rolled it across the plaza so.
Pat: I believe it.
Brian: You are correct.
Ash: As a filmmaker I was like that sounds like the thing that would go wrong on set for sure for sure.
Bret: I guess I was only trying to scare you off of course without an ash.
Ash: Yeah thanks.
Pat: Final thoughts.
Bret: Yeah.
Ash: Okay.
Bret: Let's wrap it up.
Sam: Yes cuz we have Burgers sitting on our table that need to be eaten.
Pat: Yeah I enjoyed it it something I've seen a lot of things where I wasn't really surprised by anything.
Pat: There was a handful of yeah we talked about things that we're kind of like yeah but it is funny because it's very much a kind of like a paradigm shift or it's like 20 years ago was he's got a f****** figure it out man this during guys so cool and now it's like us is f****** horrifying and not good and also b******* because he's not he's basically like called save the true freedom is being one of my nameless slaves in my s*** whole house and let him burn your letting me scar your hand for life.
Pat: But I still had a net positive cuz Brad Pitt is just a delight whenever he shows up and he in he.
Pat: Jesus is.
Ash: Even as a skinhead he was great he turns into a skinhead at the end.
Pat: Even like a Charming psychopath.
Pat: Imaginary Psychopathic terrorist.
Brian: Take it easy.
Bret: Pat even shaved his head for this movie.
Ash: Man crush.
Pat: This is why.
Bret: Yeah.
Ash: Yep I I I struggle with this because I hadn't seen in awhile and it was a little surprising to me some of the stuff that we already talked about that I was like oh wow that that doesn't feel like it holds up but from a filmmaking perspective this movie is very good you know like it's it's very well done we didn't even really talk about the acting except Brian you brought it up in the beginning but he know everyone is just doing an amazing job in this film even like Jared Leto has like one line like two lines nobody's still so good in the background but so yeah I mean I still enjoyed it and I still thought it was really good movie and I I walked away as a filmmaker feeling like more inspired about sound design and what not and you know all that but.
Ash: But it's a little hard things but don't hold up feel a little questionable but.
Ash: But yeah overall I do think it's a good movie.
Sam: I'll piggyback on us totally agree about the filmmaking like just really well done really great to watch to see like the creative choices that they made as far as like the mental health stuff like I feel in the past you know twenty some-odd years we've come a really long wait and the Public's perception of mental health and while this film does not take the care that we would now in modern-day I think it was still really important because it brought awareness to the issue and it did put the audience in the perspective of somebody with a mental illness and kind of helping them to realize like what it feels like to be disoriented and how you can believe that somebody is there that isn't really there so I I hope that this film at the time while there's room to grow brought a sort of sympathy and a take a walk in somebody else's shoes sort of view to audiences in regards to Mental Health.
Bret: Yeah even if it wasn't like a realistic depiction it's still a perspective of like that most people have considered probably.
Sam: Yeah or I mean there's kind of a tendency to like right like ash that right people off as crazy and wild it did kind of fear into that territory it definitely humanized people with mental illness and gave them like a tangible kind of hurt and suffering.
Sam: So I liked it I can appreciate it for its time and I was still really entertained but we have a very fussy.
Ash: The baby was not though.
Bret: I so I've had this opinion for a long long long time since high school I just I totally understand why everyone hates millennials.
Ash: Excuse.
Bret: And and I wondered for a long time I wondered to myself like.
Bret: Why is why is everyone I know that's my age such as intolerable a****** and they all share the same the same point of view and I think it might have come from at least a nugget of it from this movie of like a couple of pieces.
Ash: You heard it here first Pat we're intolerable assholes.
Pat: I was going to say I'm someone you know.
Ash: Your age.
Pat: No I know it says more about you yeah yeah yeah.
Bret: Hey if you if you are going to say a few things and if you identify with them then you know it's you but you know the number one this concept of having your head so far up everyone else's ass about like the way they're living their life and that's kind of like the core this movie is I don't like the way that everyone's living and like it may be no I'm sad about it and therefore everyone else in the world is trash and garbage because of my opinion is like such b******* that you know there's that there's just there's a lot of s*** that is in this movie that I don't like about people that I know a lot of people who are this and and I f****** xsm you know you see it and you say oh wow we are watch that in high school and we all grew up to be that f****** person and like so that said I don't know.
Bret: It's so good.
Ash: You're still digging the hole still digging done digging the hole okay.
Pat: Someone get this man a Podium depound on.
Bret: It's such a good movie I want to watch it again sometime not right away but it's a fun ride yeah it's snowing all the twists and turns doesn't diminish the story at all which is unusual for my rewatching I feel like a lot of times I think I did this recently that we watch a lot of movies where I only want to watch it once ever.
Bret: What about Brad Pitt's like a bonus and the Charisma of the pit but I noted while watching this just how believable every moment of Edward Norton's whole inner struggle was.
Ash: Yeah.
Bret: And like a scene where he beats himself up in front of his boss is a super ridiculous but be like the look on his face I'm just like doing this right now so was great in this everyone did a good job and I think that's why it's it feels another word other than impactful by like a hit me as just like thang like I'm in this world I mean for the ride and I enjoyed it was good.
Pat: Man that was like wait.
Ash: Oh you enjoyed it okay.
Brian: 2nd swing back around despite a testimony to the movie that you can be this critical of it and then still say you don't I enjoyed it. I'd watch it again.
Bret: I love a lot of things that I hate.
Brian: Yeah but it's fine if you touch on the.
Pat: Like me.
Ash: Friends people babies.
Brian: Touch on the generational aspect of the millennial perspective is where I coming I'm Gen-X and I came in watching it when my mid-to-late twenties and the scene where he's giving the speech about the jobs and we were we all grew up being told we're going to be this or that and I see you know.
Brian: I am going to say for me it holds up still overall there's definitely cringe-worthy moments of we've discussed in-depth and some stuff that we really wouldn't hold up today especially great point about the Viewpoint of mental health and mental illness in the country now like you with this movie wouldn't be made today because now and then when Edward and go to the doctor he would be like how you just need a good night's sleep program and let's get you is let's get some look.
Ash: Yeah you do you say this movie wouldn't be made today but detective Pikachu the bad guys motivation for being evil is literally that he's handicapped and hey I love that movie but it's problematic.
Bret: Also.
Ash: Yeah.
Brian: I need to go back and watch it again I love that movie unlike the wait a minute so.
Ash: I love it totally love it.
Ash: A medically the Ave.
Bret: Societally we may have made strides medically but I just think back to like like what is last year I think I went into the doctor's with a list that cuz you know if you have to make an appointment like a month to talk about the doctor just like.
Pat: We really.
Brian: Ouch.
Bret: You can tell me one and then schedule another appointment I ain't got time for you and Isaac s*** all right.
Pat: No.
Brian: Wow I don't get that nut that's bad that's not good at all.
Bret: Val Vista.
Ash: University Dr is.
Bret: He wasn't my normal doctor it was.
Pat: Yeah they used to doctor sucks.
Brian: Yeah you have a shity doctor you have the doctor from Fight Club.
Bret: Are you saying that person exists.
Ash: Yeah.
Brian: Exactly exactly.
Pat: Yes actually that doctor is a f****** dick cuz it's like I hate to think it's just because there are other people who are in pain arguably more pain it doesn't mean that this person in front of you is not also in pain and suffering is like other people's pain doesn't negate.
Bret: Yeah.
Pat: Yeah.
Brian: Right it's a serious thing.
Ash: And also like I'm pretty sure you could die from not sleeping by crashing your car or like making some sort of bad decision cuz you're so tired like I'm pretty sure you can actually die.
Brian: So that's problem number one.
Ash: You were still you were still giving your wrap up.
Brian: Thank y'all.
Pat: That doctors are real villain of the movie cuz if he had done his f****** medical Duty and taking care of his patient he would have manifested Tyler Durden and then none of this would have happened.
Sam: Problem solved.
Brian: Thing exactly so.
Ash: Take that medical system.
Brian: That's very much my son Maria and it's problematic based on other thing we talked about but I still enjoyed it because omigod.
Ash: Yeah.
Sam: Agreed.
Bret: Did everyone was that at.
Pat: Yeah I started.
Bret: I didn't even say like half of the stuff I was going to talk about either that's okay it's okay we need to end it.
Ash: You rambled so long that you forgot forgot that other few.
Ash: Who wants to pay to listen to that.
Bret: You know you give me a topic I can talk for an hour about anything.
Pat: That's going to be patronizing lusive I guarantee you there is a market out there for people wanted to hear Brett just f****** go off and there's.
Bret: I mean tweet at me if you want me if you want bread rantz I'll do it.
Ash: I will say back when we use back when we used to do let's drink all the comments were I love Brett.
Ash: So you know.
Bret: And all I did was a rant about random stuff.
Ash: Yeah well I gave you a platform to complain it's what that show was.
Bret: Drink up and talk good good show and the show that was Fight Club Brian would you like to tell our listeners where they can find you how they can find you and most importantly how they can love you.
Brian: Oh that's easy I tell you first I I love interacting on social media that you can find me Facebook Twitter Instagram all under at author Brian Fitzpatrick you can go to my my main Hub my website of Brian Fitts books. Com and metcraft and Metcalf disruption or both on Amazon right now in Kindle paperback and the first Metcalf is got an amazing audiobook that I was very lucky enough to get a award-winning narrator to do she kills it so I encourage you want to go to Amazon.
Bret: Exciting.
Ash: I'm going to download the sample right now.
Bret: Wow engaging the audience.
Ash: Right now wait how do you spell it oh yeah that's my turd and you can also follow us on Twitter or at let's re-watch where we do fun things like a movie Pole where you guys get to pick the movie like you did here and if you don't pick the movie then I tweet a still from it and see if you guys can guess it but I didn't happen this time Mitch because you already knew what the movie was going to be Mitch.
Bret: Did he guess anyway.
Ash: No but he's complained before that I haven't posted it when I was like it's a movie pole I'm not going to post it.
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Bret: Amazing.
Sam: I also tonight jumping was also on another pass but for their special episode where they talk about a movie that course corrected and did good and I talked about How to Train Your Dragon.
Sam: Thank you.
Pat: Elizabeth great yeah.
Ash: Cool.
Brian: Freckle.
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Bret: Oh yeah join us next time when we watch the 1978 Masterpiece science ninja team gatchaman the movie.
Sam: Oh that sounds fantastic.
Pat: That sounds amazing.