Stargate with Rick Ives

When humans invade an alien world, it’s up to the aliens to talk them out of violence. That’s right, we’re watching Stargate, with special guest Rick Ives of all the new Marvel shows.

Starring Ash Blodgett, Bret Eagleston, Samantha Willson, and Pat Edwards

When humans invade an alien world, it's up to the aliens to talk them out of violence. That's right, we're watching Stargate, with special guest Rick Ives of all the new Marvel shows! Starring Ash Blodgett, Bret Eagleston, Samantha Willson, and Pat Edwards

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Ash: Nailed it.

Bret: Hello and welcome to another episode 3 watch the show where we watch movies that we loved in our youth and find out if there's still any good I'm Brett.

Sam: I'm saying.

Bret: This feels good with a good tight intro.

Ash: You sounded you sounded like you were like a VHS being broke down.

Bret: When is X I'll remember how to like blind how to say it backwards into like the f****** satanic like spin the record backwards near the re-watch intro like that we do.

Ash: Probably just say be kind and Rewind or something.

Ash: I'm not very interesting.

Pat: Switch is backwards Brett does backwards Brett love every movie.

Ash: Yes yes.

Ash: Daiquiri Express.

Pat: Injustice. Nice things to say.

Sam: Backpedal all you watch you can undo hear it past 8.

Bret: I don't know I don't know where this came from if you listen to the shows I like most of the other movies I will backpedal you out of the house I was just out the door be gone.

Bret: Anyway we got to ask today Ash who's joining us.

Ash: Yes we have Rick Ives welcome Rick.

Rick: Hello thanks for having me yeah.

Ash: You're welcome Rick and I went to Ogilvie.

Rick: I want to know if you keep track do you keep track of every single movie you do like and don't like.

Rick: List.

Bret: We should start keeping it a leaderboard I mean I can go back and do it.

Ash: We have talked about this a long time ago we talked about it yeah.

Ash: Yeah you go back and do it cuz I'm not doing it.

Bret: I feel like evidence.

Rick: That's a lot of content to go through.

Bret: The evidence of our statements technically exist but where we faced with it now it may destroy us I don't think we could handle knowing what are opinions actually were even last year.

Rick: Don't look into the past only look forward.

Ash: There are movies that people I feel like have flip-flopped where it's like when we recorded it.

Ash: They were like yes I like it or no I don't and then later they're like no I do like it or no I don't like what I'm pretty sure you didn't and I'm not saying.

Rick: Have you guys tried this app that I have you tried this app I discovered recently called letterbox is talk about.

Ash: Oh I have heard of it.

Bret: I have seen it around.

Rick: Yes I will you put it on and then basically you can log every movie as you watch it and give it a score for the last 3 months I can see everyday when I watch them and what I gave it at the time.

Ash: I think Mitch uses bad.

Rick: I love it and then over time you can see oh I'm writing everything like 3. 524 and almost nothing 1 and 2.

Ash: Oh wow.

Rick: Or you know whatever it is for you.

Ash: So then you're easy to please is what you're saying.

Pat: The thing is.

Rick: I really am that's what I've learned about myself in the last couple months like oh I'd like a lot of these even bad ones.

Rick: Yeah yeah I could see that.

Pat: Problem is in this day and age though I feel like I wouldn't finish a movie I wasn't really liking it was for like the show here or something like that you just turn it off and go do something else on the old streams.

Rick: Give it a one and move on if they didn't fit.

Pat: But then I feel bad cuz I feel bad giving something a one that I didn't finish.

Rick: It's a one that you don't need to feel bad.

Pat: It's a real catch-22.

Bret: I wondered that that have sounds like it's going to just train people to leave like wild high and low ratings on every movie like oh no I've left too many threes I must start reading higher or lower.

Ash: I must find a bad movie.

Rick: From what I hear if you come across a movie on there that's like in the four range you know aggregated from everybody it's really good cuz it's hard to get above four on there.

Bret: Like YouTube letterboxd is pushing people towards extremism.

Ash: You interrupted your own intro you a******.

Rick: Anyways sorry I interrupted you introduce sir.

Ash: Rick and I went to fill school together back in the day back with our Film School existed.

Rick: That's what I was going to say a college that no longer exist.

Rick: Have you will ever be there yeah that's correct.

Rick: They went under it was.

Ash: Yeah yes yeah they crash and burn spectacularly.

Rick: For-profit private school that we spent a lot of money on and now I don't even know does my degree Count Anywhere.

Ash: It does but.

Ash: There's no way for them to verify this information totally.

Pat: That's a great day that's a great scam look up universities and colleges that are now defunct and as long as the years you supposedly went for yourself up certificates diplomas from yeah yeah.

Bret: I have so many diplomas.

Rick: This is a movie idea right now.

Sam: This is genius hat.

Pat: Holy s*** guys.

Pat: Check.

Ash: It wasn't that didn't they do that in parasite though but it wasn't like a defunct it wasn't like a dead College yeah.

Rick: She just made a fake yeah she just made a fake certificate.

Pat: Saint Louis.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Ever Check Yes except for me I got background checks.

Bret: I think that was more of a commentary on no one will ever actually background check you accept you Ash but.

Pat: All I know is y'all in 24 hours your Esther calling me doctor.

Sam: Oh I love it alright doctor Pat.

Ash: Oh.

Pat: Cuz I'm getting a Ph. D.

Ash: When you got to hang it on the wall right behind you right above your head there be perfect.

Ash: Does she exist.

Bret: Ashley.

Ash: Oh my God are you f****** kidding me.

Ash: Yep.

Sam: Ask your background check was super legit cuz they called me and they're like can you verify that this is Ashley blodget and I was like I was like yes they it say she works for for Brandy goes Productions and they like great what dates and I was like well she started in 2015 and they're like yes do you have a month and I was like May and September as like yes that's correct thank you so much.

Ash: Wow.

Pat: Do you think that someone who there's someone out there who is.

Ash: Oh yes.

Pat: An avid collector of avian sculptures made out of baked goods who stumbled across your company got really excited for a minute and then went to the website and was like just the most disappointed ever.

Ash: You don't know how angry he is but people see his company name because he thought it wasn't public face.

Pat: Lean into it.

Ash: It's literally a doodle.

Bret: Oh I just thought I was never going to use it for anything I thought I was going to like that contract is going to expire after a year and then it would just never ever just go away like I never existed and now it's like my whole life is this f****** thing the stupid name that's almost my name but isn't my name and so people like wait how do you spell that like the food but anyway my company's name is bread Eagles and and my name is Brett eaglestone.

Sam: Red Eagles came from AT&T f****** up our cable service when we tried to cancel and yes.

Sam: Red Eagles.

Bret: Yes Samantha Wilson and bread Eagles what was on the bill as a f****** serious you thought someone's name was bread AT&T.

Sam: I had to spell it I had to spell it for the.

Pat: Wait.

Bret: Absolutely.

Rick: It's from your it's from your misspelled AT&T bill is that what you're saying.

Bret: AT&T is a bunch of clowns.

Sam: Yes the bill where they they owed us $300 so they sent us to collections cuz you know that's what AT&T does and I had to spell Brett's name out four times and then the bill came or the check I should say came to bread Eagles.

Rick: On AT&T you think someone in America is named bread.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah listen our standards are really low now so it's no no.

Bret: Listen I ordered a coffee or no I ordered bagels from the bagel shop and they put my name down as booette b u with umlaut e t.

Sam: What is the best.

Ash: That's okay this is yes this is your child's name this is your child's name.

Pat: Where you baby talking the person taking your order do I go boy go with Queen toys please strawberry cream cheese my name is.

Sam: Chocolate milk.

Bret: Our neighbors have a little kid who grow this Valentine's Day cards any any address 92 bluet dammit.

Sam: The funniest thing.

Rick: Can't live it down.

Bret: Like a six-year-old is dunking on me.

Ash: Anyway I still didn't finish interest received.

Bret: Sorry.

Rick: The longest intro ever.

Ash: So Rick is an editor right Rick I mean you still do that right.

Rick: Yes I do editing I'm a weekend warrior for nights and weekends doing editing and then my day job is assistant editor.

Rick: Currently working on for a little company called Marvel Studios as an assistant editor and that's all I can tell you about that but.

Ash: I saw that on your IMDb which is why I wanted to bring it up but is very cool.

Rick: I didn't want I didn't want to ask you though because you did you just watch all the Marvel movies last year or was that Rhyme or Reason.

Rick: That was a fantastic episode.

Ash: I did and I am now a huge fan so when I come to Atlanta you will have to give me a score.

Rick: I wish I could do that but they don't even allowed to ask but I want to ask you something I think you talked about that episode at what point I want to know what point did you become a fan-like was a halfway through the whole series was like the first couple movies.

Rick: Yeah hesitate skeptical.

Ash: No it was so it took a couple movies I think the first couple of movies I was still like this is dumb and then I can't remember which one it was I'd have to like hold on let me pull up the list cuz I watch them in chronological order.

Rick: And at some point you're like dang it I like that one.

Ash: I love it I loved watching in chronological order I would highly recommend doing that.

Pat: I don't recommend that.

Ash: Would not know.

Rick: I think there's only two that you watch out of order right. Just Captain America and Captain Marvel.

Rick: She just disappears.

Rick: TRUE.

Pat: Well that means you watch Captain Marvel before almost everything and it feel like there's so much in that that enriched by knowing what's coming later but.

Rick: The first Avengers 1.

Ash: It worked out I think it was The Avengers Marvel's The Avengers was the one that I was like oh s*** I'm really in.

Rick: I mean that's awesome.

Ash: Because like.

Ash: I know a lot of lot of people like Captain America and Captain Marvel but they just weren't really my jam I do like the first Thor.

Ash: But it wasn't it wasn't till like.

Rick: It is funny how people like really pick one cuz I love the Captain America ones and I'm kind of soft on a lot of the magic and other stuff like that.

Sam: I'm the opposite.

Ash: Great yeah like Doctor Strange.

Ash: Manzanita magic.

Rick: Yeah but see some people aren't old opposite but yeah I don't really like Captain America but I left the magic stuff that's cool.

Rick: There's something for everyone.

Sam: I'm all about Thor and Captain America you thinks I like love vintage and World War II but I'm like meth too melodramatic.

Pat: What's funny I mean.

Pat: Two of my personal favorites are.

Ash: It's beautiful it's beautifully shot though.

Pat: Each of those Series so each of those trilogies.

Sam: That's funny that you're the the in between.

Ash: He always as though he finds the net positive and everything.

Rick: Yes so we graduated what 10 years ago and I worked in I didn't Daily's for 7 years on a bunch of big stuff and then I moved out here to Atlanta to work on the last two Avengers movies doing dailies and then.

Ash: Wanda vision.

Sam: 18.

Rick: Really liked it. That's the one I did not work on but there's some more coming out very soon they will see my name on and I just love the Marvel world so much that after that I would like please give me a job please.

Ash: Yeah that's incredible.

Rick: So we're still here and that's it.

Ash: Is that like amazing the first time you went to see one in the theater and you're like that's my name in the credits.

Rick: The first big movie I worked on for that was called a journey to Mysterious Island near that one got The Rock in it we went to Hawaii for that one that was a lot of fun that was the first time I was like.

Ash: Yeah.

Rick: It's one of those jobs that it does get boring like any jobs or could you go and do the same thing.

Ash: That is very cool.

Rick: Every day but then some days you just pinch yourself feel like you're working on man this is so fun I don't know I get to do this so it's pretty easy to step outside and think. Hold on to this one.

Rick: Yes.

Ash: I have a another friend that I texted the other day out of the blue and I was like hey what are you working on nowadays and he's like oh just this and he sends me a picture of the Boba Fett outfit in his backseat and he totally worked on Mandalorian season 2 and I was like oh my God that's amazing.

Ash: So amazing.

Rick: So funny story I got a credit on men Lauren season 1 and I barely worked on that movie but I found out that we could came out and my buddy text me as I got you the credit.

Ash: You don't even know what you did.

Rick: Well we rented the gear to them to do the dailies on and technically I was the support back in LA because it or back in Atlanta even though they were shooting in LA because of our equipment and I made a couple phone calls to help them through stuff but that's it.

Rick: Not complaining though.

Bret: That's super cool.

Rick: When it came back I'd they still had they sell a lot of footage on a drive that had to wipe picking through it off like a good six months early.

Bret: Gaff gaff.

Ash: You'd wipe after you drop them into your Dropbox folder and saved forever.

Sam: Nobody wants to f*** with those Disney lawyers.

Ash: Yeah I know.

Rick: That's right.

Bret: I've made that you got credit for for that because.

Sam: Oh yeah.

Rick: That's the worst.

Bret: One of my past gigs I literally did the entire title sequence for a show like the whole opening intro and I didn't get any credit for you can't you must you must disavow any knowledge of this project us.

Sam: Yeah yeah.

Ash: I was at in your contract.

Rick: Really.

Bret: It was in the contract and also in a international treaty.

Ash: Oh wow okay.

Rick: I've been burned in credits before I'm like so many months into this you could put my Dave in the back come on.

Sam: Oh yeah yeah.

Rick: Whatever no one checks on IMDb cell.

Ash: I remember in film school that was like the real like like backhand slap of like I know you worked on my film but I'm not putting you in my credits or something you know.

Rick: Giving you a credit of 30 seconds of credit there's 10 people I could put you on one of the cards come out.

Ash: Oh man.

Rick: What is a backhand slap face.

Ash: We are watching a movie right.

Bret: We are.

Rick: Oh sorry yes.

Bret: Very excited about today's movie we are watching the original Stargate movie.

Rick: Star Wars Oaks.

Bret: Oh s*** we prep for the wrong movie.

Ash: Oh sorry lyrics to disappoint you.

Rick: We're watching Stargate I got Star Wars set.

Bret: Stark.

Pat: Can't tell if you're doing it better.

Rick: That is a bit Yeah if you haven't seen this in a long time you'll realize that this is Star Wars.

Pat: Stargate show.

Bret: I watched a lot of that show but I'm honestly not starting I've seen the entire movie yeah.

Rick: Interesting.

Pat: SG-1 or Atlantis.

Bret: Sq1 bro.

Sam: SG-1 we haven't gone to Atlantis all the way here it's good.

Rick: Ash had to ask early on if she needed to see the show for this movie.

Pat: And she does not.

Pat: Because this movie predates.

Sam: I believe yeah.

Rick: This is the finale of the show.

Pat: And I lied.

Ash: I thought this was the moment you're going to reveal that you're a lying to me if I do actually it you're not going to understand anything.

Rick: Show the show was based on the movie.

Pat: Are the shows based on the movie and movie came out 1994.

Ash: That was that the year.

Rick: Directed by favorite Rowland and.

Rick: Who went on to do in the Independence Day.

Pat: Where to buy Roland emmerich written by Dean Devlin and Roland emmerich.

Rick: A lot of the characters in the show are from this movie or just recast it.

Bret: Yeah like most of them right.

Rick: Play my recognize the names and the type like this guy who is that guy this guy zecca.

Pat: It's a stacked cast as far as the first recognizable names or faces.

Pat: Kurt Russell.

Pat: It got James Spader.

Ash: Call my boy my boy.

Rick: AKA Ultron AKA Robert California.

Pat: Actually.

Bret: Yeah I think we all know him is Robert California.

Pat: It's funny cuz there is a fun connection here Rick that with you you know working on Marvel films is there are three actors in this movie that would go on to play villains in Marvel movies.

Rick: Who else would it be.

Ash: Is Lee Pace in this movie.

Rick: Interesting.

Rick: Interesting.

Rick: Are the bad guys in Garth.

Pat: In the MCU I want one of very small what won a small role know but that movie you got the movie right so so Kurt Russell who plays ego in Guardians 2 you got James Spader who's Ultron and then I'm on Hounsou is in this is his first on-screen roll and he plays one of Ronan in Guardians 1 Corvette he plays Cora bath one of his men like one of his like Warriors soldier's he's the one who.

Rick: I don't even remember him being in this.

Pat: He's the one who in the beginning catcher Star-Lord Star-Lord he goes who.

Ash: REI.

Rick: You'll know his face he's a big.

Pat: Yeah this is Jay Davidson who has her household name did very is only acted in three things but two were very famous this and The Crying Game and there's reason to have trivia on that.

Rick: Interesting entry.

Ash: Okay reasons why he's only done two movies.

Pat: Other Erick Avari which of the name doesn't ring any bells his face well he is a character actor who has been in a million things over the years he's been like an Adam Sandler movie serious movies comedy movies you'll recognize him.

Bret: Really really.

Ash: What's his first.

Pat: French Stewart this is French Stewart's first onscreen appearance.

Rick: What I don't remember that either I thought I remember this movie pretty well too.

Bret: What's he doing this.

Ash: French Stewart.

Rick: No one can see right now but my eyes are squinting and I'm blowing everything when she.

Pat: Leon Rippy is again not a not a household name but you'll you will recognize him lots of lots of recognizable faces especially from the 90s people you've seen in lots of 90s movies who's your cousin.

Ash: What's a musi.

Bret: And I've seen part of it.

Sam: I saw this in the theaters with my dad.

Bret: Holy crap.

Rick: Wow I also remember watching this with my dad but it was on TV.

Pat: As you've never seen it but you seem part of it salmon I've ever seen Rick obviously you've seen that you suggested let's go right into that Rick why was this the movie that you were watching tonight.

Rick: This is probably one of the first PG-13 movies I ever saw with my family and I watched the whole thing sitting on it fireplace in my house I remember and I just loved it it's big action it's the desert Isle of the ancient Egypt.

Rick: Aspect of it which is how it gets started and I want to give too much away cuz I think I remember it pretty well.

Ash: So the mummy is also your favorite movie.

Rick: I love them those Brendan Fraser mummy yeah definitely.

Ash: I do love the mummy.

Sam: Mommy is so good.

Bret: I'm in every living person loves the mom.

Ash: I'd hope so.

Rick: Will Indiana Jones that was with my jamming other kid you know anything that's like ancient artifacts and stuff like that so this one gets into that and then big sci-fi big Sci-Fi Action Movie this is back when Roland emmerich made really good movie.

Rick: Independence Day.

Ash: What else has he done I don't know if I'm okay.

Pat: Use lots of disaster he didn't think you did like 2012.

Rick: Yeah 2012 was his day after tomorrow is his White House Down.

Bret: I seen half of those.

Pat: Action disaster movies.

Rick: He said that one right there was another big disaster 100 day after tomorrow they all have like the same name and it's the same plot if it's the same thing over and over again.

Pat: He's an art or he's got a style.

Rick: Oh boy.

Pat: Did the he wrote he's occurred as a rider on the again we just in the most recent episode as I was recording this that just came out weave reference the Matthew Broderick Godzilla he was a writer on that.

Rick: Alright Godzilla that was his follow-up to Independence Day.

Pat: Independence Day.

Bret: Do his thing is just like is she going wrong it in on a global scale that's me.

Rick: We're going to destroy the city yeah but this is before that so there's no city destruction.

Pat: Yeah.

Rick: Just like a good 90s.

Pat: Give me directions to Independence Day sequel.

Bret: Felix Target kind of continued that Vibe the right like this is kind of the Alexa dad beer franchise where like it's it's always fun and like their steaks but like there's never really fakes.

Rick: Yeah it's an adventure.

Pat: There's never any doubt.

Pat: That the good guys are going to save the day and.

Pat: Pretty much all of them.

Bret: I kind of Wonder though cuz this this is the opportunity for that to be way different cuz I'm driving all of that info from the the show but like it says movie going to be like the gritty dark start.

Bret: Frequently yeah.

Rick: Oh right well cuz you know who's in the show so you know they must have made it I do remember this being a little more gritty than the show cuz the show beard into comedy at times right and it's kind of silly and lighthearted yeah and that's not what this is.

Bret: One of our friends.

Rick: This is my kind of Independence Day was like like a serious action movie remember there being a lot of humor.

Rick: Direct threat.

Bret: The show was very much like as the time went on all of the characters were just like oh great yeah planets in danger again woohoo like very jaded.

Rick: Going to leave the states for so long.

Pat: I feel like that's always going to be the arc though with action this receive if it's drawn out in a Siri standpoint right cuz yet cuz it will Marvel does a two words like it's only you can only do it so many times where it's like.

Pat: Yeah so that's the natural progression.

Pat: It's a movie that the opinion of it is very very mix.

Pat: Depending on who you ask this like the scores are all over the place of the different rating.

Ash: I was noticing that when I Googled it earlier.

Pat: Depending on who you is definitely a polarizing booty actually there are people that really loved it Ricky said you loved that I have areas we'll talk I have very fond memories of it and.

Rick: I thought I really thought this was regarded as a as a well I was well-liked 90s.

Pat: I'll tell you I'll go from top to bottom IMDb has it ranked 7. 1 of the 10 Rotten Tomatoes is 53.

Bret: What's audience score.

Ash: But critics that's critics though audience gave it a 73.

Bret: You can never trust a Rotten Tomatoes critic store.

Pat: Okay and Metacritic is 42.

Rick: Metacritic 42.

Ash: What is I mean that's what is pretty wide range though.

Bret: I also feel like sci-fi fans are the least trustworthy opinions about things like.

Rick: They love it all no matter what.

Bret: For sure yeah.

Ash: What's really sci-fi fansler.

Bret: People are like dick riding their franchise and like if it's not the thing that they wanted then it's bad and like.

Bret: Oh yeah those guys are just lovely.

Pat: Star Wars fans are always level-headed and compassionate and empathetic about their opinion.

Rick: Quintessential time nice guy.

Ash: Hell yeah yeah they definitely either really chill chill chill people.

Sam: Did this movie have a fan base because the show came out after.

Bret: How long after.

Ash: What is the space off of nothing.

Pat: That. Ellie has a fan base.

Rick: Oh I think this is a brand new property now this is its own this is its own.

Ash: Wow.

Pat: This is brand-new the movie was yeah it was an idea that.

Rick: I want to say this show started three years or so after.

Pat: 97.

Ash: 3 years wow.

Pat: Well.

Bret: Based off of Latin property star got though about a cat from space but they got rid of the cat for American audiences didn't test well.

Ash: Yeah.

Rick: There are animals in there.

Pat: Apparently Roland emmerich had the idea even trying to get it going for a little while but there was so I'll just jump right in here though there was a little bit of controversy where there a high school teacher blamed filed in 1995 copyright infringement lawsuit he claims that he submitted a manuscript to Fox in 1990 or 1984 that is pretty much identical to this.

Pat: But I was also like four years before Roland emmerich and Dee Devlin whatever like meet each other so he sued for.

Pat: 140 billion dollars.

Pat: Who settled he settled for $50 000 in 2 years later.

Rick: Almost no case whatsoever.

Bret: Okay I will save this another Matrix or whatever where is just like you stole that idea.

Ash: This is why I Studios will not read your script anymore because of this stuff like this.

Rick: Right right.

Pat: In 2013 he published a novel called egipski.

Ash: The person who sued.

Pat: Based on the.

Rick: Identical to the first movie.

Bret: Egypt skate.

Pat: Based on the manuscript he claims he submitted.

Sam: Pad siew.

Bret: That sounds like a knockoff of this idea.

Sam: Just Freddy listeners out there thinking about maybe trying to sue a big company because your ideas kind of similar to theirs.

Sam: Don't do it it's it's really hard like you you have to prove concretely that the company literally stole your actual idea just because you have similar themes it does not mean that you're going to win your case I have.

Pat: Unless you got a selfie with you with the director holding up your manuscript and you can read the title on it.

Sam: Even then.

Bret: Don't don't turn cons into that hellscape Pat don't give them that advice.

Pat: That's a great idea.

Bret: P22 photo.

Sam: That would not hold up.

Ash: I just Photoshop in the new name of whatever script they want.

Rick: In the world deep Stakes you don't even need a photo at the director you could just put it on yourself.

Pat: That's a good point. Yes thank you.

Sam: Don't do it.

Bret: People failed to realize like it's it it's a real thing a lots of stuff gets invented or made up around the same time by different people and it's because if just that happens in the world like inspires those ideas and people so it's like coincidence is it is it is all it is most the time unless you unless you're riding the Matrix and then you'll still in the block.

Pat: I have some other trivia but I actually want to do this very specific do this in a very specific order because I want to do money game first and then share some trivia there's a reason for that cuz I'm just going to f*** with you guys expectation.

Ash: And you have to do the jingle because Rick loves the jingles so.

Rick: I love the money game.

Pat: Okay so budget what do we think this movie cost to make.

Pat: Well I guess Ash going in blind Ash.

Rick: 93.

Ash: More than $50 or 50 000 or whatever he settled for.

Pat: Do you want me to read you like a logline or a tagline or something before you guys since you've never seen it.

Rick: Do you know anything about this.

Bret: Give us a little bit of flavor.

Ash: No the only thing I know about Stargate is there's a gate and they walk through it and I think it transports them somewhere.

Bret: Very few Stars.

Ash: Varices sorry I do that Bryce loves or wait no let me watch that back okay I know that Bryce used to watch this show and so today he was like what movie are you watching and I was like Stargate he's like okay and I think he want to watch it with me and he was like nah I was like but I thought you loved Stargate and he was like I watched it cuz I had nothing better than 200k.

Rick: What a ring.

Ash: So is it really.

Bret: Stargate the series we visit a different world every episode but it all happens to be the same semi-arid desert scape looks like like it's obviously just like what was right behind the building where they where they were yeah.

Pat: I'll read you.

Ash: Oh no they just went out to the desert.

Rick: Was basically just a track Star Trek knock off let's go with this and then it was on Syfy channel right that I was just there property.

Bret: They kept doing like this the first season of Stargate was very much like every episode there's like a temple or like an alien like City and like the inside of the building with exactly the same layout which is different props.

Rick: I mean what can you do.

Ash: This is the Sound Stage we have so dress a different but.

Pat: I can read you a tagline there was two of them sealed and buried for all time is the key to Mankind's future.

Ash: That literally tells me nothing.

Rick: Oh that's good want to see this one.

Sam: It tells you everything Ashe.

Pat: This tells you more it will take you a million light-years from home but will it bring you back.

Ash: Balance butter.

Bret: It's the third one let's party.

Bret: Sorry I was just editing that yesterday.

Ash: They just they needed more than one tagline they were like we need more more for marketing please.

Pat: Backup I would love to see a verse in Stargate with Arnold Schwarzenegger in the James Spader roll.

Sam: Yes.

Pat: How to line up the symbols.

Ash: Play Love James Bay in it winds going to be like the movie twins but in Stargate.

Bret: All right I saw a dinosaur today so my guess is 65 million years ago 65 million dollars is my budget.

Sam: Wait what what studio.

Rick: The budget.

Ash: Oh right.

Bret: How do I feel like this might have an even bigger budget and like a huge flop so I don't know.

Sam: What studio made it.

Ash: Where is 94 yeah what studio that's a good question.

Pat: The great question 2.

Rick: What's this box Suffolk.

Pat: It might have been.

Ash: X Out sure.

Bret: I don't know it was this I feel like this might have been on a listicle about like you know adjacent to Waterworld about like a huge money losing properties.

Rick: No I don't think no I don't think.

Pat: The production.

Ash: They had enough to pay this guy $50 0.

Rick: Jumpchain.

Pat: The production companies are listed as Canal plus as I studiocanal centropolis film Productions carolco.

Rick: Interesting that's it.

Ash: I feel like I remember Metropolis in the 90s.

Ash: Centropolis nevermind.

Rick: What is a budget of 42.

Ash: Damn it okay for TSA 40 take that.

Sam: I'm going to say 52.

Ash: Nice Midland Midland.

Pat: Hold on Sam 55.

Sam: 55.

Ash: 55.

Bret: 4050 / 10.

Pat: Let's just go let's go straight to the cumulative worldwide.

Ash: You forgot it was 1994 but.

Bret: I don't know this is this is one year after the biggest ear of the 90s we got the Jurassic parks in the The Big Adventures I figured maybe this was a you know they threw money at stuff after that here.

Rick: Hotels.

Bret: Well yes a Pat will take us to the next trivia.

Rick: So this is a worldwide.

Pat: Yeah yeah I got worldwide and domestic you can just pick one.

Rick: Interstate worldwide 240.

Ash: Nice.

Sam: Oh that's big I think it made 120 worldwide.

Bret: What year did the show start.

Ash: How to say 150.

Bret: Okay so it took three years to get the show going.

Sam: Yes it wasn't like instant success.

Rick: You got to remember this is a time where sequels didn't happen bang bang bang bang like they do today.

Ash: That's true that's true.

Bret: How to say they doubled a double down.

Rick: You don't have a lot of soup.

Bret: I got a hundred and ten.

Pat: 110 Sammy 720a she said.

Ash: Like I said 150 but I literally don't remember.

Sam: Place of to something.

Pat: Ricky said to 40.

Rick: Feeling like that's something to be way too high now.

Pat: Ashton-Drake almost heidrich technically is $1000000 closer it was 196.

Sam: Okay.

Bret: Quite a haul.

Pat: Worldwide us it is 71 so it made it it profited in the states.

Rick: Still like a big International Movie.

Pat: So it was profitable okay which obviously dispatch.

Ash: James Spader was pretty hot right and Russell Crowe.

Sam: It's not Russell Crowe.

Ash: I mean Kirk Russell whatever whichever one it is.

Sam: What's a gladiator.

Bret: It's fine all all actors are interchangeable.

Pat: So it was successful Financial late because James Spader admitted he did the film for the money is he found the script to be awful she said.

Pat: Another magazine.

Ash: I've always wondered if actors like have that like do they cuss like I watch this terrible film with my mom recently and I was just like where they just like sure give me the paycheck because the rock was in it and Kevin Hart was in it and I was like this is not good and Aaron Paul was in it and I was like where you guys just like sure why not I'll just take the money.

Sam: Absolutely.

Pat: I mean yeah I'm sure.

Rick: When somebody offers you 15 million 20 million 30 million dollars to go work for 3 months you don't say no to that.

Ash: I know I guess so.

Sam: Take that back.

Bret: Listen to The Rock is in a lot of movies and very few of them are actually good like they're the ones that you eat everyone loves no I'm not taking that back.

Rick: Journey 2 Mysterious Island.

Pat: He's in a lot of he's in a lot of thinkers I like the rock I'm a fan but he's a.

Rick: Fast and Furious franchise which you cannot take down off the pedestal it lives on.

Sam: Agreed agreed.

Ash: I've got to get back on that movie Quest.

Ash: Yes that you would yes absolutely.

Rick: Now he is in a lot of movies he is in a lot of movies that seem like the fake movie in a movie you know when you walk through that you wanted posters out that you see skyscraper but that's not real.

Ash: Yes or like the one you were talking about that you worked on his like that doesn't feel like a real movie there's no way.

Ash: Man sorry Pat we drifted.

Bret: Echo Pat was just.

Pat: Do you get I just narrowly avoided disaster I forgot to plug my laptop in it was almost about to die on me.

Ash: Broadcast professional.

Bret: Hawkeye so he hated the script.

Pat: DeWalt heat okay is another quote is that it was so bad then he decided it was so bad it actually intrigued him and met he is so he met with Roland emmerich and was inspired by the director's passion and decided to make the movie.

Rick: Great heartwarming story.

Ash: Inspired by the director's passion that's pretty great.

Pat: Jay Davidson CJ Jameson Jay Davidson was a model and he had done the crying game in 1992 which is like a big hit and is a new you're not familiar with the Crying Game or with the whole deal with it is.

Ash: I have not seen it now.

Bret: That we are we missed we miss that one.

Pat: Do you know like not if you haven't seen or not but do you know what the dick the whole deal.

Pat: It's he is.

Bret: I felt like a spin the wheel and they.

Pat: Feminine presenting through the whole movie and then it's like revealed at the end that.

Ash: What are you spoiling the movie for us.

Pat: Yeah I'm spoiling the thirty-year-old movie yes.

Bret: Play Hold on that was the plot of Ace Ventura Pet Detective.

Rick: What are we watching tonight.

Pat: Decrying.

Ash: Florida vs Ventura.

Ash: Oh that his character was trans or something.

Pat: I don't know enough to be super do a super D Drywall verse conversation that is basically it was a it was a thing where people did not realize I guess going into the movie that he was not a woman or that like they thought he actually was a woman through the whole thing too late to her it was a whole thing like.

Pat: It was like for good and bad there was like people that were weird about it there people that prays like the performance and everything but basically he hated being famous like he hated the attention that he received for it he didn't even want to act in this movie.

Pat: So he told them.

Ash: Seems like so far no one did.

Pat: But so he told them he stated multiple times he goes I threw out yeah I'll do it for $1000000 thinking they would never agree to that and they did.

Ash: That's that is rule number one of freelancing you set up for ice what is the amount if you don't want to do the job what is the amount that makes it worth it for you and you would be surprised how often clients go okay and you're like oh s***. All right.

Bret: That's that's my advice to everyone is it's always better did it to charge twice as much and only get half to work.

Rick: That would be a lie.

Pat: The spices costumes so much on the last day of shooting the scenes after hearing the Final Cut he's stripped completely naked on set in front of the whole crew without going to his trailer and then walk to his trailer completely naked retired from acting after this he's appeared in one short film since.

Pat: I mean I can totally see.

Bret: How this I guess I need to ask like a professional actor but like why would you do that job why did you start acting like it's not just out of a out of the blue right like he's probably like a drama student or something and.

Pat: Lila model is just a model here yet it was for his luck that he was cashing crying game before his luck that he was cast in this and if she did a good job apparently acting and crying game.

Pat: I can totally see acting me one of those jobs that many people think will be amazing and awesome and want to do.

Ash: And then not like it.

Pat: I'm sure there are tons of people that when they actually get in actually getting like a high-stakes.

Rick: A lot of pressure.

Pat: Acting job to write like a major motion picture I can see lots of people being like Oh I don't like this at all like.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Pat: I actually go cuz it looks at me that's the whole point of it right it looks f****** great from the seats on the screen right like.

Rick: When you're on set for 12 hours a day.

Pat: You look beautiful when you get to dress and cool costumes.

Rick: In the same three lines over and over and over and over and over it's like so tedious and boring everyone I've always brought him to set or talk to you as extras or whatever afterwards.

Ash: Yeah there's a lot of sitting around.

Rick: You have the whole vision in mind and see how it ends.

Rick: Can be boring.

Ash: Especially for an actor there's a lot of just like sitting and waiting and that's why I like whenever I do is shoot I really try to be conscious of that and schedule around it so that people aren't just like sitting around for several hours and they really appreciate it so pro-tip try to make your call times for actors appropriate.

Ash: It's always possible though.

Pat: I just I just laid his attitude so we're drove and cinematography had to work around his day Davidson nipple rings because he refused to remove them.

Bret: Hahaha.

Sam: That's funny.

Ash: Not when do we see them in the film.

Pat: I know they worked around them.

Rick: You can just on him.

Pat: You'll see in the Wardrobe when he get there.

Ash: Will you say worked around them but I'm just imagining like nipple ring circles and then everything else discovered us.

Sam: Batman and.

Bret: I just feel like they could have wrote it into the script.

Rick: Yeah I do remember being some interesting costumes for him.

Bret: Alien has nipple rings can we just be cool with that.

Pat: Just make them like glow.

Pat: This film is like I mentioned this kind of mixed reviews from critics and this film is on.

Sam: What.

Pat: The late Rodger Ebert's official most hated list he did not like this movie.

Bret: Oh no.

Sam: I'm so excited now.

Bret: That's interesting cuz cuz Rodger Ebert had I want to say I agreed with most of his opinions sometimes I was a really disagreed but like I feel like you had a good read on a lot of stuff interesting like he could always back it up with like this is why it's bad and not just I didn't like it I wonder I wonder what he saw in this that made him so rude.

Rick: His whole thing was as a movie set out to do what it's been trying to do so if it succeeded at what it attempted at then he was okay with it but you're right sometimes it was like he didn't he just missed I think.

Pat: I want to look up his review of this at some point I don't I don't want to do it before watching it didn't want to be to influence but I am curious cuz I if we could like going into like predictions like I remember really liking this movie and enjoying it in by no means thinking it's like a Flawless movie or one of like the all-time greats a very enjoyable very enjoyable.

Pat: Sci-Fi Action Movie.

Ash: Who did you like practice.

Rick: It's been a lot of money on the visual effects might not hold up so well today but this was a time or a lot of it was still practical so I think is going to look pretty good overall and there's a lot of extras so if you don't like big groups of people.

Pat: Yeah well OKC say a lot of extras they.

Rick: Extra.

Pat: A lot of mannequins.

Bret: Good grief.

Sam: No.

Ash: Oh wow I'm excited for this.

Sam: Like Keyes on Van Nuys.

Pat: Disabled.

Bret: God for those afraid of the listeners.

Ash: Oh my God that is such an MLA reference.

Ash: It's horrifying yeah.

Rick: Standing there with their arms up waving at you.

Bret: Keyes on Van Nuys is a Toyota dealership and you can see all three floors of it from the highway as you drive by and they just to make it look like they're popular and that people would actually go there they have mannequins all over and it's just a horror show just straight out of your nightmares.

Ash: And some of them are like teetering on the edge so you're driving your like holyshit they're committing suicide and then you're like oh no oh no they're fine.

Pat: No but it's like painfully obvious that they are those are mannequins.

Bret: Yeah oh yeah.

Sam: Not at first.

Ash: Not like not at first but like you don't because you're driving so like for a second you're just see out of the corner of your eye and then as soon as soon as you look they're wearing like shity clothes like have awful wigs and you're like okay but.

Pat: Is that one wearing janko's.

Bret: Can you have to look directly at them to see the obvious man again but.

Ash: That was trending during the Superbowl because people are comparing the Superbowl to that which is amazing.

Bret: POF.

Ash: Horrifying.

Pat: I mean I'm going to Gordon Tuesday I'm going to predict that I'm going to like this movie and enjoy watching it I think.

Pat: Yeah the special effects I think you're going to be I think we're going to get some super early CG that I don't know I think he's a sparingly so we'll see how that works again member may be kind of like a watery CG thing that I don't know if that's going to look very real.

Bret: That was like Stargates.

Ash: Oh no water or fire is never good.

Rick: Stillwell.

Bret: The portal itself is like the cheapest pot like this is the maximum that CG can do right now like.

Pat: I feel like some of the sets or going to be I feel like I remember some of the set-pieces being okay cool I don't know if it's been awhile.

Pat: I think I'm going to like it I think.

Rick: That's exactly what it is.

Ash: Is the portal like Alex Mack style like shift.

Pat: Oh my God holy s*** asked Alex Mack I haven't thought about that.

Bret: Turn up the Spectra lights.

Pat: I think I'm going to enjoy watching it I think overall I think it's going to be I'm going to predict for the group it's going to be a.

Pat: Relatively positive experience.

Pat: We'll have to talk about oh don't worry but.

Bret: I'll tell you what what my.

Ash: I mean Alex Mack portals for sure.

Bret: My enjoyment will hinge on is.

Bret: Exactly the b******* sci-fi argument that I was making jokes about earlier is will this live up to my expectations of what the show was because the show was so freaking enjoyable to watch like just a joy it was it was cheap it was that jokey it when they were loading those steaks even when the stakes are the highest and.

Bret: If this is just an action movie I will probably be like a man and I kind of get the vibe that that's what it's going to be but if it's got the jokes I'll be for it.

Ash: It's got James Spader I mean that's all.

Sam: So Brett I have some factoids to drop on you that might make us all go.

Bret: Pat she's got she got trivia.

Bret: Dog.

Ash: Water has broken go Goku.

Sam: No no so you've seen this.

Sam: No yes with me.

Bret: I thought I only seen part of it I'd like I know a couple of scenes have I watch this whole movie I don't remember it at all.

Ash: Oh no that's not a good sign.

Ash: That's not good.

Sam: When I when I worked at 3 yeah when I worked at DreamWorks I rented it and we watched it together.

Bret: So we watch this within the past 10 years and I don't remember it at all I don't remember that experience.

Sam: Yeah so scary Factory.

Bret: Mineralized it from my brain it's gone.

Ash: That's like the movie Seven Psychopaths which I do like but I've seen that movie multiple times and then after watching it I'm always like I don't remember what happened in that film.

Pat: Oh my God yes I've only seen it the one time if you told me if I liked it was like yeah I think I did but I couldn't tell you one f****** thing that happened in that movie.

Ash: Right yeah.

Rick: What does the evaporator.

Ash: Totally does.

Sam: It's like the Men in Black guys come out after you watch them and like to your memory.

Bret: There there are very few movies that I have watched that I don't remember anything about this is weird.

Sam: Yeah so I'm very sorry to to break your little movie heart but you have seen this.

Ash: Whoever you know what though that says that it's not so bad that you clearly remembered it so maybe it's alright maybe it's right middle of the road.

Bret: Isn't that the biggest failing of a movie where it's not even bad enough to be memorable.

Rick: Unforgettable.

Ash: I guess yes. Yeah but I'd like Seven Psychopaths and I can't explain it.

Sam: Yeah so I don't know and the worst part is is I also don't remember a lot about this movie I do I did I know I've seen it at least twice.

Sam: And I know we watched it after we had started watching Stargate the series so we did a lot of like comparing the casting of the movie to the casting of the show and I think we prefer the casting of the show.

Sam: So I don't know what that means and I think I remember feeling like the movie dragged a little bit like it needed more action.

Bret: It needs more action know this is opposite.

Ash: Take that Rick not enough action.

Sam: We'll see I don't know this is my fuzzy fuzzy memory from back in 2012-13 so almost 10 years ago.

Ash: Now you guys remember 2012.

Sam: That's it that's all I got by did see it in the theater with my dad which is kind of remarkable because what you said it came out in 94 which would have made me five and my dad took me to see a PG-13 movie.

Ash: That fills young for this yeah.

Bret: You know that.

Sam: Maybe I wash it on TV with my dad but I I don't know I have like a distinct memory of like.

Sam: Of them being trapped in the desert and I was like how are they going to get home daddy's like you just got to be quiet and watch it you just go to see.

Rick: Call watching Kurt Russell and James Spader.

Bret: Your dad.

Rick: Don't ruin this for me I never get out.

Ash: Just shut up Sam your mom made me take you with me.

Bret: Family movie time with your dad being a super inappropriate is definitely on brand for your dad.

Sam: It's true by family like they don't really care about like sensory movies for for kids and and we always watching appropriate things.

Sam: Yeah yeah.

Ash: Watch Clockwork Orange with my dad that was interesting.

Ash: Not 5 thankfully.

Rick: The age of five.

Bret: Old weave.

Ash: I distinctly remember turning to him and being like so is this just pouring and he was like yep and I was like cool I'm going to go now this is weird.

Sam: Yeah I had to watch Clockwork Orange in my college class like with my instructor and my other leg.

Sam: Students and flag.

Ash: Wow I guess guess it was College.

Ash: Oh wow.

Sam: That is not true.

Ash: About how they watch p****** all the timer.

Sam: Human sexuality class I didn't watch this movie and human sexuality class breath.

Bret: Well I mean yeah what that wasn't so bad. That was like the least sexual thing in that in a class and college we've told this anecdote before about the human sexuality class or they brought the people in to whip the students they whip the students and they did they did lots of stuff weird I don't understand.

Sam: In directing for animators you expect the sex in human sexuality class you don't expect the snuff of Clockwork Orange in your directing class I'm just going to say.

Ash: What is Kubrick they got to play Kubrick.

Sam: So many other Kubrick movies like The Shining would have been a better option in my opinion but.

Sam: Whatever that's not the movie watching which I was Stargate.

Ash: Which clearly is so riveting but we stayed on top.

Ash: Okay we'll all go I know nothing I am Jon Snow I've been sober for 4 weeks now I'm just kidding I have a butt.

Ash: Yeah I don't know anything I am very excited that James Spader is in this and Kurt Russell is that the right one yes.

Bret: Curt.

Ash: Hertz Russell.

Rick: And if you're a fan of James Spader you're really going to like it here cuz he's young and skinny and Humpty.

Ash: How old ass that's the Spader I like.

Bret: Jenny Han.

Pat: Being a big nerd in this.

Ash: That is weird.

Rick: Yes he is made out to be nerdy but he's different than the James Spader who who came to the office and you know years later.

Bret: I remember the hair cat though oh no.

Pat: Yeah it's like he's got that early 90s just like crazy mop of hair.

Sam: The Flop are.

Pat: Feathered.

Ash: Stop ruining this for me this is my one thing I was excited about you're ruining it.

Bret: Trust me we're not the ones that are going to ruin it.

Ash: So yeah I am excited I'm excited to laugh I think I'm going to enjoy this movie because I think I'm going to laugh at it a lot which will be fun.

Ash: Oh yeah that positive.

Ash: Rick what are you remember what do you think.

Rick: Yeah I mean I feel like I've said I think I'm going to based on my letterbox reviewing habits it's going to be right out of four out of five.

Rick: Like I said that some of the visual effects not going to be so great but it's practical.

Rick: Just good 90s action sci-fi.

Rick: How far to five everything.

Ash: You should start a YouTube review Channel or just everything or like you have 4 stars just everything.

Pat: How long it takes for someone.

Ash: Yeah for someone to notice it's like I just seen who like every product review she's like this blows my mind and everyone's like you say that every time.

Ash: Every time.

Ash: Exactly.

Rick: Like it doesn't anymore.

Ash: Maybe it was your mind cuz they paid you a bunch of funny.

Rick: Let's go watch this thing I'm ready.

Bret: Absolutely yes we're going to pause a recording and going to watch Stargate and I'll see you when we get back.

Rick: All the cops in the donut shop say.

Rick: Walk Like an Egyptian.

Bret: Goodness.

Pat: You did it.

Ash: Nailed it nailed it.

Sam: Yeah we should just come out of the gate and address the elephant in the room here.

Ash: Cutely.

Sam: Which is that this movie stole an awful lot from the Cheesecake Factory.

Ash: Yeah you're going to have to explain.

Bret: Have you ever been to the Cheesecake Factory.

Ash: Hahaha.

Pat: Imma need you to unpack that theory a bit for me Sam everyone everyone be quiet and don't interrupt no interrupting Sam the floor is yours.

Sam: The entire aesthetic of this movie is the Cheesecake Factory is just missing the cheesecake.

Ash: I'm sorry what what.

Rick: I'm still not understanding this.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Yes the interior and the exterior of every Cheesecake Factory.

Pat: Oh I kind of get you something like the interior of like the spaceship pyramid yeah cuz it's like super it's like gold and like red it's like yeah yeah yes is weird kind of like weird like offensively vaguely.

Bret: White is white fantasy Egypt.

Pat: Androgynous.

Rick: Androgynous.

Ash: Is your server always like an androgynous a John Ennis I can't say the word no.

Rick: With with nipple rings that you can't see.

Sam: It has nothing to do with the people and everything to do with the decor.

Pat: No I get that Cheesecake Factory does have kind of like a vague like white persons take on something vaguely North African Middle lake Moroccan right.

Ash: What are you talkin about.

Bret: Yeah it's it's it's white fantasy Egypt.

Pat: The aesthetic of the restaurant like the Decker.

Sam: Yeah yeah dude have you not been is it been that long.

Ash: I have been in a Cheesecake Factory yes.

Bret: Apparently not.

Pat: Brighten Sam on the same wavelength as me yes thank you.

Sam: Yes Pat gets it packets.

Sam: Ashes to classy for this s*** she's got like awesome restaurants that she goes to she maybe went to a Cheesecake Factory one.

Bret: Just like let me let me complete the picture for you.

Ash: All the awesome restaurants in Ventura.

Ash: I've totally been to in the past year.

Rick: Yeah it's all good doordash in the last.

Bret: Imagine The Cheesecake Factory exactly as it is and then imagine the Sphinx statue in the Cheesecake Factory and suddenly it's exactly the same.

Ash: Okay hold on I have to Google it cheesecake.

Bret: It's got a little bit maybe it's a little bit more of a Stargate Atlantis five.

Ash: I literally have not been to a Cheesecake Factory since you guys lived in Pasadena I think.

Sam: The tracks.

Bret: Either there's not really a great reason to go to one but.

Pat: Do you want to hear in a restaurant that is maybe notorious for food Abominations one of the most abominable things I've ever done.

Ash: The Snowman.

Sam: Totally excusable.

Pat: That we ordered because Katie was pregnant when we went there one time and they one time on their menu head.

Pat: Beer battered french fries.

Sam: What.

Pat: For a limited time.

Bret: I do it I do it.

Sam: Time India.

Rick: And you're not even pregnant.

Sam: Oh no that's disappointing.

Bret: Play soggy or like.

Bret: Oh that's a problem.

Pat: Kind of Interest very very Souls like the stick like thick steak fries and then a very very thick layer of thick chewy beer batter like around it.

Ash: All around it.

Bret: Now they need to be like f****** like panko fries.

Pat: Yeah yeah yeah.

Pat: You're like coated in beer batter and then fried.

Bret: Friday supposed to be that day.

Sam: Oh no.

Ash: See I thought you were I thought you were going to talk about the elephant in the room that is I am digging James Spader's hair in this movie guess.

Pat: You like the mop top.

Rick: I told you you were going to love James Spader.

Bret: That had better be a joke.

Sam: Hair is bad.

Sam: Who is he.

Ash: Listen James Spader James Spader is hot no matter what that's all I can yeah James Spader super hot.

Sam: Okay.

Rick: Even when he's sneezing constantly into a the same dirty rag that he's been carrying around at his sweaty pack.

Ash: Know when he is good he is causing the coronavirus to actively kill another civilization no then that's not very hot but.

Pat: Oh yeah all those.

Pat: People are so dead from germs now.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Absolutely absolutely.

Sam: Is it if I Wrong to think that like.

Sam: James Spader looks like a little bit of a less f***** up Christopher Walken.

Ash: Mean well first off.

Ash: How dare you about Christopher Washington and 2nd off yeah.

Bret: Just having this conversation the other day about was that on DND chat about people who are ugly hot.

Pat: Yeah yeah.

Sam: Just because.

Ash: Ugly hot.

Rick: Ugly hot this is dude.

Ash: Okay but who named what.

Rick: Never heard that before.

Ash: Please.

Ash: Yes okay.

Bret: I mean this lore on the conversation topic of Christopher Walken with his is the face that you like something's wrong here but also I can.

Ash: Also I'm really turned on.

Pat: There really a Spader with your guy in the snot chiseled job peacocks is Kurt Russell.

Rick: I was going to say you like James Spader's hair but the first thing you didn't say was Kurt Russell's hair.

Ash: Okay well that was terrible that was so bad yes it's flat top.

Rick: As soon as he comes out it looks like a pencil eraser it is so sharp it could cut somebody with it.

Bret: Okay so he had the stupid hair he had the Beret 1994 was also the year that Street Fighter the movie came out.

Ash: Oh yes this was obvious.

Rick: This is your theory.

Ash: Well I kept thinking.

Bret: They were banking on that Gile yeah.

Bret: John Paul II Van Damme.

Pat: Jean-Claude and soul.

Ash: His approval should have been played by Jean-Paul Van Dam Jean-Claude Jean-Claude Van Damme.

Pat: I forgot to mention I mean Roland emmerich no Jean-Claude he also directed universal Soldier.

Rick: Oh yeah.

Bret: I mean there he was.

Bret: Street Fighter came up.

Ash: It was clearly that he was clearly the first choice and something came up a scheduling conflict.

Rick: What he did here.

Rick: Can you imagine jcvd.

Ash: That's true.

Pat: I mean JC I love Justin jcvd I don't think he could maybe the rest of the movie he got to play that role the scene introducing that character yeah he could not have that kind of morose gravitas.

Ash: Yeah but was that really a good scene.

Rick: Exactly what do you find out John Claude Van Damme lost his son to a gun accident by the way why did we need why do we need that does that matter.

Ash: No no and it wasn't even good the way.

Pat: Nothing he really get nothing to lose so he's willing to take the suicide mission.

Pat: Oh that was for I mean that's 100 0. 000000or the all the Dum Dum audience.

Ash: He was to be willing to take the suicide mission but like first off how did the two other soldiers not put it together like they had to have explained to them in the car after the scene the audience already knew.

Rick: We put it together with three shots and they walked out of there like what happened to his son.

Bret: That is interesting cuz I noticed that as well and it's like it's one of those things where I think that played differently in the 90s vs. Today we're like.

Bret: Cuz all I could think about was like boy like the government super f***** up that they were like who's the most suicidal like high-ranking person we can find like a guy that into his kid killed himself cuz he left his gun out because he's a dumbass like cool yeah do you want to kill yourself on admission into another planet like.

Ash: Also is itchy.

Rick: You could just have easily had him show up the first time at the underground bunker or whatever and he looks scary and then you don't you can just drop everything about don't let these other kids play with guns.

Rick: Why is it there.

Ash: Or we could have like learned as we went on instead of it being really heavy hand in the beginning.

Bret: Yeah somebody somebody who was more alive and adult in the 90s in US fleas was it a thing like was it I mean I don't want to actually don't really want to know but that scene with the gun in the dead kid is like super Tropi like it was a lot in the 90s you know that that was not the only time I seen that I can't I couldn't blame the other times I've seen it right now but like it. Just felt like they are doing this because it's been done and this is the way you introduced that.

Ash: Yeah I feel like peoples movie intelligence for lack of a better term has definitely like improved like people pick up on things more and subtleties.

Rick: Yeah they don't need a spoon fed anymore that's a good point.

Ash: Yeah the more you understand.

Ash: Right.

Pat: Yeah well that's just that's just normal cuz the more that gets created right it's the same way as like I like comedies always evolving and stuff because the language in that in like the general IQ is always like building it's always referencing itself and then building on that.

Bret: I guess but like.

Ash: Yeah that's right Joker director take that anyway.

Ash: Want to dance version of I have a dead kid.

Pat: Oh my God.

Bret: People were you know there are people who are still new to movies called children and like when they watch that you know versus today's version of I have a dead kid like how much like how would we expect like where where is the low bar how do you introduce.

Bret: Do you know what I'm trying to say.

Bret: Oh my God.

Sam: Yes.

Ash: No I do I do can we also talked about the fact that the dude who I mean I guess it's fitting for his character but the dude who's like really concerned about gun safety is also like throwing guns and pointing guns like at the children at the same time like he's like this is dangerous if he crabs that heats the roast.

Sam: Guy tries to touch his gun and he goes no and Poinsett right at him.

Ash: He pointed at him you have.

Bret: Dangerous like right in his face like.

Rick: Cuz he trusts himself he doesn't trust other people that's why.

Ash: Okay.

Rick: It makes me feel like that would never was in the script and then at some point Kurt Russell or somebody came along and it's like you need something.

Rick: Else what can I do here let's reach you to see in at the beginning and my kids going to be dead and then they just threw it in there.

Rick: What else could it be feel so extra.

Pat: Likewise cracking.

Pat: Oh yeah.

Bret: His character took like a hard turn near the end of the movie he went from like way serious and like weird Meathead Army dude to like a little bit of the jokey character from the TV show like he did all those double-takes in the wink and then yeah but like it was all at once.

Pat: Reposes head back inside is like hey how are you.

Rick: His heart was softened by the people.

Bret: Yeah yeah but I would fully expect to see that in the in the show.

Pat: And then he's like yeah say hi to King Tut assholes.

Bret: Yeah where'd that come from this is not your character.

Pat: I mean I like it I like that Russell Crowe like.

Sam: Russell Crowe.

Bret: Kurt Russell.

Ash: You said it all by yourself.

Pat: Big Trouble in Little China Russell Crowe you did it to me now Kurt Russell know you you brought that plague into our house and spread it around.

Ash: Just because my brain isn't working doesn't mean it's contagious.

Sam: I would like to see a version of this with Russell Crowe though.

Bret: As the same guy.

Rick: Is the Australian or American.

Sam: Good military guy.

Ash: Good question good question Australia.

Bret: 70 Australian.

Ash: Plays in the movie.

Rick: I mean in the movie is he Australian turmeric.

Sam: They could go either way.

Ash: Maybe my dumb brain is contagious.

Pat: I got nothing to lose.

Bret: He's just job fair.

Ash: No no no no.

Ash: Not Australia.

Pat: No I wasn't I'm tired.

Ash: Yeah.

Rick: What did you guys think about tough guy French Stewart.

Rick: He is.

Ash: Okay also why was he like the smartest one why was Reggie smartest women make no sense.

Rick: He is bossing everybody around and his arms are so skinny in those no sleeve shirts you're like who who is giving this guy any respect.

Ash: Why he didn't feel like he belonged in this movie at all like he was in a different film.

Pat: I buy it though he's make is he's making up for it it's like false bravado cuz he is the.

Pat: Physically the most diminutive.

Ash: He was like just like you idiots it means we're stuck here like the rest of them just didn't understand but for some reason French Stewart does.

Rick: In their defense I still don't understand.

Bret: Is.

Rick: Why are they stuck their I don't understand how they got there and I don't understand why they can't go back.

Ash: I couldn't go back because he needed he thought that the Egyptian plaque thing that was going to tell them what symbols to like you know like the old rotary phone.

Rick: Yeah I know that but why couldn't they just open it up again from Earth.

Ash: Because they needed the symbol for the planet they were on.

Pat: Did you need the coordinates.

Rick: In an hour open it up again.

Ash: Right right right.

Sam: No no but no this is a good point he's saying before they went to the planet why didn't they have a back-up plan of like yo Earth team if we don't come back in 45 minutes really f****** open the portal.

Sam: Earth is hella dumb.

Ash: Then there'd be no movie Rick duh.

Sam: Yes it does.

Rick: They had a lineup they had a line about that saying like you know doesn't work that way blah blah blah and I went wait what is a door opening.

Pat: How doesn't it yeah there's still people on the other side they can open it.

Sam: They absolutely could not.

Bret: If you really want to get into the nitty-gritty of the shed that doesn't make sense in the plan for this movie.

Rick: And will end by the way speaking of the Stargate to begin with I don't I still don't understand how to turn it on cuz they're like spinny thing okay first Chevron is locked in we're at 12.

Rick: Chevron to Locked In 280f what not even know that.

Bret: That wasn't linear.

Ash: The battery on the door.

Rick: And what is what is locking a Ted doing it makes no sense to me.

Pat: Maybe it doesn't turn on maybe it doesn't turn out unless there's a valid like coordinates or so I don't know.

Rick: Oh yeah if you could just go.

Ash: Bryce was even like they didn't even need when they were stuck on the planet he was like they don't even need the seven simple like Roz going to open the gate and send the bomb anyway she's going to open the gate for them like they don't need it just go then.

Rick: Or just stand in the corner and watch whichever one that lands on oh that's it.

Ash: Yeah right.

Bret: You would think that once they found out that you know they got their language guy in cuz I thought it was a language thing and then the second they found out it was actually an astrophysics thing like that Daniel guy should not have been in the movie the rest of the time.

Pat: F*** off get me Carl Sagan.

Bret: What was he going to do over on the other planet.

Rick: He's a linguist he will be able to talk to anyone.

Bret: Why did they think they were even people over there.

Ash: I don't know he's a linguist but he super important cuz they needed someone to fux the woman threat they needed.

Pat: No he didn't do those whole point.

Rick: No they needed someone to read they needed someone to read Egyptian hieroglyphs wherever they're going I think that's why.

Bret: I am still uncomfortable with the power Dynamic of that sex scene even even though they like tried to be like oh yeah we're actually not your Gods like.

Bret: I just felt wrong.

Rick: Interesting.

Pat: You mean the scene where the.

Pat: Gives a woman to the man is like a present you're uncomfortable with that.

Sam: The old woman in the movie.

Pat: Always he's like cuz you didn't want me.

Bret: So that one but he know he did this heat there was not a sexy in there cuz he was like I'm not doing that but then later when they actually did this eat the clothes curtain sex scene and everybody was leering at them yeah that one I was so uncomfortable with cuz I feel like still this is you know.

Rick: They loved each other obviously.

Ash: What Brett they've fallen in love after knowing each other for 12 hours.

Rick: Yeah it's been a whole day they're married.

Ash: No I ain't I'm totally on board with you.

Sam: Hours is enough time for people to become attracted to each other and want to bang.

Bret: Disinterested the power Dynamic is it is it is all wrong there.

Ash: At hair.

Pat: She's have grown up in this super incredibly tough difficult rough life she just super attracted to this human this human shape ball of Play-Doh.

Bret: Okay but like.

Rick: Who speaks every language and is very allergic to everything.

Bret: She has a super tough life and she finds out he's from this Kush ass planet have just like oh yeah I know yeah I'm in love with you take me with you and he's like I'm going to stay here like.

Pat: How do you think her mind she's like f*** no don't yes no no no no take me with you back don't stay here f*** now.

Ash: So you're saying she's a Stargate digger.

Pat: But I was thinking about that at the end I was like but I never done to me or the kid watching it it's just like.

Pat: But bro you okay she she's she seems nice and she's pretty.

Pat: You don't have running water even have electricity to no healthcare like you get a splinter you're going to die.

Ash: Do you know.

Rick: That's a good point I don't even think about that this time.

Sam: Not if they have that fancy box.

Ash: She got kicked out of his apartment so he need a place to live.

Sam: The debtors can't find him there.

Rick: Brett do you remember how does he get how does he get back into the show.

Rick: Is he just abandon his wife and the people on this planet.

Sam: I think it's a.

Bret: I don't think I think the show reboots at like it's the same stuff but I don't they didn't pick up where they left off today.

Sam: Stated the American team goes back to the planet.

Rick: Okay and have to get him.

Bret: Just hanging out how she died I don't know.

Bret: This feels Google a bowl.

Sam: I don't remember what happened with the wife but I do remember the like military team goes back to that planet and he like is really good at the language and stuff.

Rick: Cuz I don't remember her being on the show but I knew he was.

Ash: Herbal was fulfilled Nina like she died immediately after the sex scene and I was like well I guess she filled her role in this movie and they killed her off.

Sam: The only woman she performed her womanly Duty and must die now.

Sam: Did they speak.

Ash: Not the only woman there were other women but the only yeah yeah there was the woman who hired James Spader and then there was the other woman that was working on decoding the information in the beginning.

Rick: Don't forget Kurt Russell's wife.

Sam: 00 the military people yes okay.

Sam: I was thinking the planet.

Ash: Oh no she apparently she's the only woman on that planet.

Ash: They're all her brothers.

Rick: They did have they did have a lot of extras in this movie though right.

Ash: That was crazy dude the scope of this film yeah.

Rick: Those were just mannequins I know it's so big that's what I remembered to us just like swarms of people coming over Hills and wow.

Rick: Do mixed and some of them are moving.

Ash: And I think I'm not 100ure but I think what they did was in a lot of those Ridge shots I think they would have both mannequins and people so that way like they all blend it in ya ya.

Ash: Exactly.

Pat: You're breaking up the movement right so it's not like a whole block of people standing Stone still right.

Ash: Yeah and then there was the first shot where you like see the mall walking in a line over the dunes and it like goes over many dudes and like the very last and maybe the second-to-last Dune I believe her mannequins cuz they weren't moving but they're so far away like if you didn't know to look for it you just wouldn't know.

Bret: Oh yeah I mean there are a lot of mannequins I feel like there is like there's people climbing the ladders in that one scene but like half of them never moved in.

Bret: I mean I can imagine standing on a ladder for like 50 takes of a shot would be horrible the ideal use for a mannequin.

Rick: I did feel big.

Rick: There's some good stuff in there.

Ash: I mean it was really clever yeah like really well done and honestly guys this yeah like the the set-pieces and like the costumes and even like the cinematography and like the lighting like we're really good and he doesn't stuff like this the CG for 1994 was actually pretty good you know minus the Alex Mack and the glowing eyes and the whatever that like Bill and Ted going through space moment is but the rest of it was pretty good.

Pat: Sera glowing eyes the attitude of the word Eerie is otherworldly.

Ash: Yeah I'm just saying it what today it is.

Rick: Yeah it held up a lot better than I thought it was going to.

Ash: It really did.

Sam: It's a helmet animation.

Rick: I liked when they first turned on though the helmet was cool did you not like that.

Sam: Yeah they said the helmet animation was pretty cool.

Bret: Anderson High School.

Ash: Yes that looks super cool.

Rick: I liked when they first open the Stargate in Sikeston the water gets sucked through and that was real right that was real water at first where you can see like the whirlpool.

Ash: It must have been cuz it looked so good yeah.

Sam: Yeah it's a it's a practical effect.

Rick: And then even when it was kind of glowing there and look pretty good.

Rick: Yeah I was surprised.

Rick: Yeah that big Temple.

Ash: They must have built that set-piece the big like where they come out on the gate in the other side because yeah cuz they had like some big aerial shots of it to that were impressive like for a while I was like oh it's a miniature something but then they had these aerial shots was like people in it but I was like oh it's not holy s***.

Rick: There were definitely Miniatures to though.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Rick: The cityscape was all a miniature.

Rick: And I think.

Ash: Yeah and the pyramids spaceship thing.

Rick: Yep and I feel like that little to drones that they had flying around her head Miniatures versions.

Ash: Yes so I.

Rick: If I like Blade Runner a few times where you're looking up at this huge thing that has so many little lights on it.

Ash: Yeah I wrote down that this movie is like Star Wars meets Indiana Jones meets The Mummy with a little bit of Blade Runner that is this movie yeah.

Sam: The cocktail of fantasy.

Pat: How do we feel about the this iteration of the special in the 90s feel like off used rope of.

Sam: Yeah it's.

Rick: Yeah are we getting is exactly what I was thinking.

Pat: Military mission to Faraway Place one person of the mission has a secret second mission that involves a nuclear bomb that they brought with them cuz they didn't Armageddon.

Sam: It's a very 90s Trope of and like that like pro-military like violence first I don't know if it's anesthetic but attitude is just I'm glad we're over it there was.

Sam: In in film yeah.

Pat: I feel like yeah.

Sam: Cuz like Star Trek Enterprise was just dripping with that and like.

Sam: And seeing it here again I was like I'm.

Ash: I mean isn't that like why does Mission though.

Bret: But the whole point is that it's the wrong thing to do in one day.

Sam: Yeah yeah.

Ash: Right okay.

Pat: That is such a bold move in its like here is a nuclear.

Pat: Warhead.

Rick: What was it a nuclear weapon it was an atom bomb.

Rick: Member cuz at one point he was like you've discovered the atom.

Ash: That's why he said that I didn't understand.

Bret: Harness the power of the atom.

Sam: The power of the add weight so they gave him a freaking atom bomb I thought it was just like to blow up the star game he's going to like blow up the whole planet.

Rick: I think that because they have the fossil or something.

Rick: Of those guys in the helmets you know on Earth.

Pat: You thought using okay.

Rick: They knew that there was going to be something over there they didn't know what so they brought the bomb in case yeah I thought that's what it was.

Ash: But yes and they would have blown up the town and everything too.

Ash: Urban pretty bad.

Sam: Very American.

Pat: The little light Intergalactic genocide.

Rick: The Bomb by the way what has it was 7 minutes on it or something was counting really fast.

Rick: Did you see those numbers if you liked those are not seconds Kurt Russell you have way less time than you think.

Ash: Oh man.

Pat: I do also.

Bret: I just say it's it's one of those things that no one ever really makes it to the complaints department about.

Pat: And then they got the the classic the Red digital clock.

Rick: Of course will you have to.

Pat: Set someone bothered to build into the forehead.

Ash: Do in the movie.

Bret: So that was I don't know if that's so much and I need a stroke as much as it is just like bad writing Trope of how many times did someone ask what's happening here what's going on what is this I like it like while he's arming the bomb wild for f****** Daniel is like riding s*** on the wall in the dude just walked out what's going on here I'm drawing on the wall with his kid what the f*** do like what's with the hostility.

Pat: Exposition product insert Exposition prompt question.

Rick: He really he really really hated James Spader's character he really hated that guy.

Rick: Why do you have to be so smart why do you want to look around.

Ash: He was jealous of his hair I mean it's pretty fabulous.

Rick: I can't think of any other reason why.

Bret: Anime like I was confused on where some of the sets were placed by like they found the artifact.

Ash: Like in relation to each other.

Bret: The artifact with the symbols on it was that at like a second ruin site.

Ash: I do not know because I had that question where I was like why is he looking for him isn't he in the same city that he's like doesn't he know.

Pat: I I took it is like.

Rick: Or a cave nearby.

Pat: Old Bruins baby below the city or something like that lay.

Bret: They had to have the horse they had to have the horse monsters sniffed his supposed to go find him you know like he wasn't like.

Ash: The horse dog monster.

Pat: I like those horse monsters by the way is very handsome.

Rick: It looks awesome.

Sam: Yes.

Bret: I thought so too but.

Ash: Sokol.

Bret: But also not Hansen like the puppeteering wasn't the best but it's turns out it's because they've actually just put masks on horses.

Ash: What.

Ash: Oh no.

Rick: I was convinced there were two or three people inside.

Pat: Nettles Island actual horse that was an actual horse that they put like a thing over no it's a horse.

Sam: Isn't that amazing.

Ash: Me too.

Pat: The horse was a thing over it.

Ash: That poor horse.

Rick: Was the tongue horse tongue too cuz it was nasty.

Sam: I was wondering that.

Ash: Grody.

Pat: We're go back we're talking about they're looking for him.

Rick: It's a big city guys he could be any number of places.

Ash: He could be anywhere I guess I guess.

Pat: It's so big the temple is just a landing pad for it.

Ash: I was also really confused for wild worlds like where exactly is the pyramid in relationship to French Stewart when it first came out I'm not sure if it's a landing inside the temple next to the temple on top of the pyramid behind the temple where is this pyramid spaceship I'm confused.

Sam: I don't need learn their prepositions on this planet.

Rick: Nearby above.

Rick: I want to ask.

Ash: Did anyone else notice that the probe the probe was just a a fancied up camera Dolly did you notice that rich.

Rick: I did not.

Ash: Totally was.

Bret: I mean.

Rick: I remember thinking we've come a Dharma or DARPA has come a long way since 1993 cuz our probes Look Alot cooler now.

Pat: It didn't get very far either.

Bret: Play hook cooler but they still just fancy camera dollies we sent a camera Dolly to Mars.

Pat: Well it didn't get very far is it when they when they go through it's right there like.

Rick: Yeah well you saw the pictures it was just a couple photos.

Ash: Oh yeah I really didn't go far.

Rick: And then they lost it.

Sam: Also has photos of the Stargate behind it so like it went through the Stargate and then like looked behind itself.

Rick: Yeah cuz I think they wanted to see what the.

Bret: What's the rear facing cameras. A lower megapixel rating than the front facing camera.

Rick: I think they wanted to see what the other side look like cuz if you don't know it's another Stargate could be anything.

Pat: Two things.

Ash: Way to add reason to it rick Gees.

Pat: Two things that.

Rick: Yeah I spend a lot of time thinking about Stargate guys so just chill.

Pat: He's just been waiting.

Pat: First chance to talk about this for years he said when am I going to get up to.

Rick: Years.

Pat: Two things that are really dated about this movie are all the smoking.

Sam: Yes.

Pat: And then one thing is it out to me to.

Ash: I love that scene though it was so good.

Pat: Mobineko the kids which O-rings with kid to put them in.

Rick: Cinematic.

Pat: And then when Daniel is first like presenting to everybody in the military base is handing out like everything is on paper he's acting like paper and he unfolds as good little bit of like it's cool it's a good little bit like spatial face-work comedy type thing with the map and all that but now not even now but very recent very shortly after this moving to made that scene is 100 0ke he's pulling up stuff on a digital display or something like that.

Rick: Yeah right.

Pat: Which I kind of like what they tell me I kind of miss that where that hole like he's falling around the paper isn't sick I'm throwing this giant star mat in front of all these super serious General people.

Rick: Yeah it's more analog and he's riding with a permanent marker on a screen to like Draw Something.

Ash: Did anyone else to die during that like what are you do know.

Ash: Go right on the screen.

Ash: I'm sure it's been done in a comedy.

Bret: Yeah I guess nobody ever fumbles with their digital presentations in modern movies but we need to incorporate that a little more ashemake make it make a note that's somebody needs to have like the Microsoft Surface like wall and like can't f****** get anything to work.

Ash: I guarantee you this isn't a movie Somewhere I guarantee it.

Pat: People like what is this Touch Cleaners in this is it s***.

Pat: How to remove the thing.

Rick: I want to know I want to know what you were thinking let's see who had I guess ass was the only one who hadn't seen this where were you thinking when they first turn the Stargate on and they're about to walk through.

Ash: Oh I was like.

Rick: What were you expecting to happen here like where is this going.

Sam: Like lemmings.

Ash: I was like are they what if they're just all walking to their death understood slowly dying each one that goes in how do they know yes I was like how do you even know the person in front of you didn't just die and James Spader was the only one that was like maybe I'm good I like check this out first then I stick my hand in and test the waters with the f****** military people just went right on it.

Rick: Yeah they have no fear.

Bret: They only sent that f****** probe through they didn't throw it through like you know like a cat on the leash and yank it back and see if it came back in one piece or anything like.

Sam: Oh my God.

Bret: Listen listen you know if there is ever is a secret portal that they fine with the military to go throw animal through first on leash.

Sam: I know they're going to throw a pro.

Ash: I watch space force.

Sam: Oh God no.

Bret: Yeah we going to be monkeys.

Rick: But then and then when they went and got to the temple in the desert or where you thinking like are they Somewhere in Time or Steven place.

Rick: Oh yeah I guess they did say.

Rick: Yeah that's on the other side of the universe.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: I'm so excited.

Rick: When I saw the three.

Ash: Well I knew it was a planet just because you guys they did say it and you guys like said how in the show they go to a different planet but I definitely would they like turned around and they saw the three Suns and stuff I was like this is all I am I to be honest guys I don't know if it's too early to jump into this but I love this movie it was so good and I were like sitting there watching it good better than we expected.

Rick: What I saw the three boobs I had I don't remember that and I got chills a little bit like.

Ash: Yes.

Pat: That's a good shot.

Sam: Classic 90s.

Rick: Big Cinema.

Ash: Like the tone and like the cinematography was like classic old-school good cinematography you know like when you see like a Spielberg or something yeah it wasn't like the lighting so beautiful like it's just Chef kiss beautiful and the set-pieces like all of it and like that dude that played wrong like he just looks so in like all of it was just so but I know that you can like Pick-A-Part the plot and it's not perfect but like I said the whole time I was like the scope of this movie because so often even like big budget like Hollywood film sometimes the scope feels so small for some reason but this like man they got a lot of mileage out of it it was great.

Bret: Yeah that performance the raw performance was so good like it brought up the pretty mediocre performances of everyone that he was surrounded with because it was just like the intensity and like the looks so good.

Rick: And his voice is so weird.

Rick: And him being an androgynous like you were saying.

Ash: Yes I can't believe he hated it.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Rick: It's like what is this is it is it supposed to be kind of sensual or scary or is he young or old you don't really know.

Ash: Well that was very much like a.

Pat: It supposed to be it supposed to be off-putting is what they wanted and that's why he's got the kid Army wearing like not much like wearing weird outfits and stuff it was intentionally supposed to be unsettling.

Ash: An Egyptian pharaoh thing to write like they would have children servants I think.

Ash: I could be wrong but.

Bret: It's interesting cuz it's like it's a thing that didn't bother me so much throughout all of this movie but it's like Strays dangerously close to like the.

Bret: Like the queer coded villain is Mike Trout's that everybody tries to steer you know you don't want to have that in your in your story but like this wasn't that this was just like.

Bret: Just like a general vibe that was like this is not this is nothing to do with the character this is just who they are and also they're doing this crazy evil s***.

Ash: I took it as like raw.

Ash: Is a God and the God is not human therefore the God doesn't really have a sex so when the God took human form that human form is neither male nor female it's like some sort of in-between because he is neither male nor female even though I'm using the key word but.

Ash: Yeah that's the way I kind of took it.

Bret: Yeah I like it totally worked in this way.

Sam: Also like gender is kind of a cultural thing and like they're not of our culture so why would they subscribe to our gender Norms like they're just going to do whatever they want to do with their cool alien symbiote relationship there.

Ash: Oh yeah yeah.

Bret: Yeah and I would say like in contrast like the the problematic version of nearly the same character is like Powerpuff Girls had a member hit him yeah the same like going on and that's the wrong way to do it because it was definitely just like.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Rick: Yeah.

Bret: The design was amazing my gosh I think they're the everything about the rock actor is my favorite part of this movie The Costume the that shot where they're getting out of the the chamber and like the close-up of like the one toed sandal like golden sandal the detail that went into this.

Ash: And I love the finger things they're so creepy and cool man.

Rick: What are good stuff in the movie.

Pat: One thing I never remember being can someone confuse about the younger.

Pat: His and their given names are given the names of the other Egyptian gods Anubis and Horus his his his soldiers his minions.

Pat: They seem stronger.

Pat: In like normal humans.

Pat: Are they are they just humans that he's like brainwashed and like brought up.

Ash: I think so.

Rick: Oh good question I thought that they were also aliens.

Ash: I think yeah I don't think they were.

Rick: That were being healed then lived on forever.

Sam: I think the show the show answers that question is like anybody with the weapon also has the parasitic alien in them.

Pat: Is it an extension of him.

Sam: They're like separate beans.

Sam: In the show I don't know like how they.

Bret: Alien makes you weigh more.

Sam: Yeah I don't know how they flush that out and in the movie or if they even.

Sam: Describe that but in the show like there are to the hierarchy you know like there's the one that's in charge and then the people that protect them but each one is a different individual.

Rick: Exactly.

Sam: Okay.

Bret: Set the only thing they morph into his pee.

Ash: Mighty Morphin people.

Pat: The whole point is his is like original biological form he couldn't he was dying and he couldn't sustain himself but for some reason he can.

Pat: What human body live forever.

Rick: If you do humans bodies yeah.

Rick: And it uses whatever their mining to do it.

Sam: Quartz.

Rick: Was it course I miss what it was.

Pat: I had courts in it.

Bret: I said majority chords.

Rick: That's exactly what it is.

Ash: Play the new age people have it right they have healing property you just got to set him up around your bed.

Ash: Triangle.

Rick: And if you mix it with an atom bomb that becomes huge.

Sam: Civil courts.

Pat: Dick is really dry really just.

Sam: I'd given them a Honeypot.

Pat: It's a good opportunity instead of being like a fascist dictator dick if he had like he could have had a legion of very loyal human followers if he'd set them up with like help me I'll get this mineral slim sustained I'm going to give you like paradise on this planet you use my technology to make you gods.

Pat: Play let's work together work for you were for me but like trick that I don't know.

Rick: Could have given them some more to give to go without their likes and electricity.

Rick: Clean water.

Bret: He did have some loyal followers those kids were ready to die for him.

Rick: I'm not totally sure those were humans either.

Ash: Yeah I would make more sense.

Ash: Are they playing chess or something that one point.

Pat: Play the game they're playing a game.

Pat: I get the impression he's just a very nice like a petulant.

Pat: Narcissistic s***.

Pat: You like wants to explore the universe in the galaxy in his crazy massive pyramid spaceship that has all this technology and power and he likes having living toys he is like real toy like his games and his loving toys and he has his plaything puppy humans and and that's why he's like you know what I can't.

Ash: Again you're describing an Egyptian pharaoh.

Pat: Yeah but I'm thinking that this whole thing to as I get why he's going to blow up our planet cuz he's like oh I'm not like you know you're God anymore there will f*** you guys I'm turning the table oh I'm just flipping the checkerboard like f*** all you he's just a petulant spoiled little child.

Rick: Well not anymore.

Rick: Blown up now.

Bret: I mean should we get into the wrap-up sash you started lock their pretty strong.

Ash: Yes also just really quick I just want to say this had one of my favorite 90s 80s Trope and that was the enhance which I always appreciate.

Ash: I love this movie this was so much fun.

Rick: That makes me so happy I love when you can go in and not know anything about it and then it's like a lot of people have it.

Ash: Totally had apparently song don't like it be found out thanks to the internet but I yeah I really enjoyed it it's like maybe cuz I went in with low expectations but I just feel like.

Ash: It looks really good for something out of 1994 this could've this could have easily looked way rougher and like we don't even talk about the score that 100 0. 000000eels like Star Wars but the score was still good the set-pieces were good most the time the CG was pretty good I was really impressed and you know there's definitely some what's things that were at the best but for a movie of its time. I'm.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: I'm actually kind of shocked that it isn't more of a classic like and talked about more because I feel like it was pretty good and I honestly kind of want to watch the show now I was like this is a cool idea I'm totally down I will be so sad that James Spader isn't in it but.

Pat: A couple of seasons.

Sam: I would say a couple of episodes.

Bret: I feel like you'll have a Marvel experience with the show and which if you like you start from the beginning and you'll be like oh this is way worse than the movie and it and it takes literally like a couple of seasons for like s*** to get together by like all of the character-building happens in the first couple of Seasons it's like I don't want to skip it yeah like the first team the whole first season is.

Ash: Yeah couple seasons is rough if you have to sit through.

Bret: I remember when we were watching it.

Rick: And this is 90 Seasons remember so it's like 20 hours of material per season 18 hours.

Sam: Yes season 2 is significantly better than season 1.

Bret: It was like all of a sudden like it was a new season it's a budget like but it might just be the first season.

Ash: Okay okay.

Bret: Definitely buy season 3 it's all it's all up at Epic awesome but it might be first in a little bit of second I don't know but.

Bret: Just saying that's what I remember from season 1 was we found this behind the studio every every shot is the same size as the characters are at it's worth watching.

Ash: Oh no I'm I'm done that's it I'm excited I actually at the end of the movie I was like why are before it got to the very end was like well now that they don't have the bomb why don't they just leave the gate open and now they have an Intergalactic community and Bryce was like and thus a TV show was born.

Rick: Right because what they find is there Stargates all over the place and make him down travel to all these different planets.

Sam: Also Brett made a good boy he was like in the show they really solve that story loophole there like takes too much power and energy to keep the gate open that's why it's only open for a short amount of time.

Rick: I thought I kind of understood that in this movie though it seems like that.

Sam: Did you okay.

Rick: Like they can only keep it open with certain amount didn't turn it off on purpose it just killed itself in your life.

Rick: I thought they ran out of juice.

Bret: Yeah and that's I think I had made a comment at the beginning where was like yeah it definitely shuts off either suddenly or randomly and yet when they turn it on they just leave it running for a few minutes and all the soldiers just slowly stroll into the room James Spader's just like touching it and second hand.

Ash: Yes.

Bret: Oh yeah.

Bret: Brutal.

Rick: That was a good spot where they where they at play that guy down on the little teleporters thing though it sucked his head up through.

Sam: Oh that was.

Ash: Also I don't think any of you have read The Stormlight series why don't know maybe Rick maybe you have but the they totally the things that they were like wearing on their hands with like a gem that like did magic powers and stuff that's totally in those books and they're called for briles and I was like oh my God they have some briles in this it was so interesting.

Bret: I got one of those it's a cell phone.

Ash: Exactly.

Bret: I can change the color of my lights with a cell phone.

Ash: Pocket magic see that's why I really love that that smoking scene though I felt like it was like such a cute moment that was like so innocent and like.

Ash: I just really I like that scene a lot anyway.

Sam: 84 by Marlboro.

Ash: Yeah but the scene ends with him saying like you're right this is stupid and he puts it out and like I don't feel like the message was smoking is cool at first it's like you know when you're a kid you do think smoking is cool and then he's like oh this is awful and and he's like yeah as this isn't a good idea don't do this kind of thing.

Bret: I would like to I would like to offer up the alternative of you fought the the four-minute long like slow pan of that f****** long drag on the cigarette and he looks straight at the camera all sexy like like yeah I'm smoking and then the kid cop suicide.

Ash: I don't know I mean I had that experience as a child where you see someone smoking you think it's really cool and you want to try it like to me that felt like a real human moments for sure.

Bret: Yeah no yeah for sure the scene was great I was just saying that.

Bret: Just just like all the anti-smoking.

Pat: No I didn't know Brett saying it was still probably paid for by a tobacco company cuz even though he says oh it's stupid they spent four minutes of him making it look really cool and they take all the stupid.

Sam: Play-Doh p a c.

Bret: Anti-smoking campaigns are run by the tobacco companies that fully explains why every anti-smoking campaign sucks but you want to be a sheep like what I'm sorry yes I know I really want to smoke because I hated this commercial thanks.

Bret: But I will get I will smoke a cigarette and just because you showed me this.

Ash: It's like reverse psychology.

Ash: I love this movie I am very happy thank you Rick.

Sam: I'm so excited that you liked it a shy I'm always nervous with you you're a bit of a wild card.

Ash: Oh I'm the wild-card interesting.

Sam: I mean I've lived with the.

Pat: How do I look.

Ash: That sounded more like facetious that I meant to sound I honestly was surprised oh I see no no no.

Sam: I hear making it that you're making a dig at Brett I'm like I can predict Brett better.

Sam: Yeah I really glad that you liked it it's super fun that like if it's no like AFI top 100 you know cinematic Masterpiece but it's just fun like fun adventure Fun World building they really flushed out this like alternate reality like everything was so well-crafted and thought of like the sound effects like brought me back to watching the show a man oh yeah like every little thing has those same sound effects in the show and they like are very specific and well-crafted the aesthetic is Superfund even if it is very Cheesecake Factory.

Ash: Hahaha and the commitment to the fake language like there's so many scenes where we don't understand what characters are saying and it's all just through contacts or like body language is that's really cool.

Ash: Yes yes.

Pat: And I like that thing.

Rick: But it's fun watching him kind of learned slowly until within two days he could basically communicate with them.

Ash: Duolingo.

Pat: Where they don't really like do any subtitles until he understands it.

Sam: Really well done yeah I really enjoyed it I was worried it was going to drag and kind of not be great but totally entertaining I thought it was a good balance of action and like suspense Fitbit trophy with the counting clock at the end but like really fun solution I really liked how they sent the bomb up to the alien ship yeah I enjoyed it I enjoyed watching it again I don't know why I couldn't remember anything about the movie and it does make me want to go back and watch the show again so.

Sam: Net positive very happy with it.

Sam: Steal passwords.

Pat: Differ everyone.

Pat: Are you going to go.

Bret: I'll go yes I'll go.

Ash: He is a writer after all.

Bret: Yeah I kind of feel the same way about this I had a really good time watching this for a movie as.

Rick: Are you going to remember at this time that's the question.

Bret: Okay I remembered absolutely nothing from this film this was like a first watch experience for me I remember up until.

Pat: Even while you're watching it it didn't come back to you earlier.

Bret: No I every moment was like this is new.

Rick: Even forgot Kurt Russell was in it even though we were talking about it beforehand.

Bret: Bizarre this was a very bizarre viewing the experience for me but for a movie with as many.

Bret: Just like play doubt tropes as this one had and it had many like none of them really bothering me the the you know it was on fire with the jokes tonight like the the.

Sam: Nintendo.

Bret: My question was that they started shooting at the at the villagers say I'm just sitting on the couch going the whole like the villagers are hostels or the you know that the reinforcements running over the sand dunes shot that's been done a million times or the the woman has to die so that's a guy can be heroic saying or like all that stuff normally I'd be better at in the long run but they took all of the strong stuff from this movie and develop it further which is why I like the show wasn't necessarily bringing a ton of original stuff out the gate except except making.

Rick: House of the Stargate.

Bret: So the show.

Ash: You know what you could even get her bag though when when she starts to go into labor like open this.

Rick: We're at 38.

Pat: Oh my God.

Sam: Good visualization technique actually you should write two items.

Rick: We're at 42.

Bret: But God damn it I forgot what I was saying.

Sam: I'm sorry.

Bret: No yeah the the the thing that the show gets better than the movie and you have to let me know if you agree that when you watch Ash is replacing what's his name the Jack Jack O'Neill with the guy that they have in the show whose name is.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Richard Dean Anderson MacGyver he is so much better than Kurt Russell in this in this particular role at because the show he's not the weird like military bad guy he's like just your joke is bad and almost everything else is the same in the show.

Ash: Yeah I mean Kurt Russell really wasn't the best in this movie it's not his best performance that's for sure.

Bret: And then also the show gets the guy that plays teal'c internet Christopher Judge yeah that the addition of that characters awesome.

Bret: Everything in this movie was awesome and the show just makes it better so I hope you watch it because this was all positive for me.

Pat: Awesome yeah I really enjoyed it watching it again as fun as like if you want to take a crazy microscope to it and dissect the plot there is things in the plot that can be detected but none of it.

Sam: Little bit of imperialism in there.

Pat: None of it bothered.

Pat: Do you like Wawa in the moment like in the moment cuz you're just watching it in like.

Pat: Like the setting individuals and all of the stuff around the flood plot word executed really well.

Pat: Very entertaining so yeah I'm having a good long while thank you Rick.

Rick: I can't believe everyone liked it that much.

Rick: You always get this.

Ash: I know.

Sam: No this is rare.

Bret: Frequently it's.

Pat: No gato.

Ash: No this is pretty.

Rick: Okay I got two things real quick.

Ash: I can't remember the last movie we all like.

Rick: I love how the movie unfolds the whole time right you're like an ancient Egypt and then you go to.

Rick: Present-day and then you see the Stargate where's this going we turned it on we're going through where we go now we're on another planet where are we there's a freaking bantha over here with a saddle on it what's going on then you buy the whole city and it just keeps unfolding and I'm folding and unfolding and you're constantly wondering like what is next where is this going.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Rick: I love that aspect of it and keeps changing and.

Ash: Yeah.

Rick: Oh we didn't talk about this but I like I like the dynamic between Kurt Russell wanting to just turn the thing back on let's get home and James Spader's like yeah but I can't I got to like look around a little bit cuz we need to figure out how that was their big battle right and ultimately.

Rick: He was right James Spader's character was right cuz the way he found the way back was learning to communicate learning to.

Rick: Read what they you know their history and all these things and when he finally finds the symbol it's just them finally drawing together so I just like that message a lot that we got to build Bridges that's how we figure out the answer to these things instead of just going to the scene where they are about to go through I remember looking at my dad going they're not going to show us right cuz you didn't do that in movies at the time and then when you go through and it looks a little cheesy now but at the time that was so crazy like we're going to actually see what it looks like when we're going through.

Bret: That's rad right on.

Rick: So thanks for watching tonight that was so fun.

Bret: Yeah that was that was a really fun movie.

Rick: Glad you guys. Get as much as I did.

Pat: I did I mean I was short and sweet I liked it as fun as an attending I was glad that everyone liked it.

Ash: I'm just forgetting you today.

Sam: Every time I ask you forget what.

Bret: I was just adding an episode today and you asked the same thing. What about you.

Ash: Like I'm just looking out for my friend.

Pat: Show some what you listen to me.

Ash: And I'm not listening to him at the same time.

Pat: I'm just happy that I would enjoy that I like when we all like I love it when associate people if it's a movie like I liked and someone who hasn't seen it before it like that cuz that's a fun that's fun to share things like that.

Bret: I like having awesome guest on the show Rick thanks for coming on man.

Rick: No thanks yeah course can I tell you how I found the show real fast.

Ash: Yeah I was going to ask you that.

Rick: Ash put a post on Facebook that I happened to see about an episode and I'm always looking for a movie podcast cuz I love listening to that stuff and I went on as I classy what's kind of stuff they've done already scrolling down scrolling down and I had just watched Killer Klowns from Outer Space or like I don't that should be fun by put on that and I didn't know the whole concept of what you got to do their talking about it and then towards halfway through when you deposit I was like wait a second.

Ash: Thank you.

Ash: It's so much more fun when somebody.

Rick: Are they about deposit and watch it and come back such a great idea I love the concept so everytime I get so excited like who hasn't seen this yet and then come back to it sometimes I'll be honest sometimes you guys let me down.

Pat: Hahaha.

Sam: Oh no flake which one.

Bret: It's bound to happen.

Rick: You guys didn't like Neverending Story that breaks my heart.

Ash: Hahaha.

Rick: One of.

Sam: Hippy dippy.

Bret: Okay but but was I right.

Sam: Why did you have to bring up this way.

Bret: Was I right.

Rick: I don't remember specifically.

Ash: Yeah this is not this is not one you're supposed to bring up.

Bret: Was is the child it wasn't a child suicide at the end.

Rick: That's a fun Theory but I don't think so.

Pat: But I do wonder how many people will listen to an episode about a movie and they like the movie but they actually they haven't watched the movie recently and they're going on pure in the Celtics be talked about that the power of nostalgia where it's like.

Ash: Yeah well that's the thing.

Rick: Bright bright.

Ash: We've definitely that's that's the science experiment of the show and it's always been the science experiment of the show that I feel like was Nick's idea initially and and the idea was like you haven't seen in a long time but also it weren't the show works best if at least one person hasn't seen it because then you can really test like okay or all of you just in the stalled your worlds or not you know and this this particular movie is like no you're not just installed your world it's it's a fun movie.

Pat: I agree As We Are Scientists.

Sam: I have to.

Ash: Yes if we're movie scientist.

Rick: Oh I don't think I'm listening to that episode.

Sam: The biggest disappointment from like other people it was when we watch Blade Runner and I went back to work.

Ash: Oh yeah I was the only one who liked it.

Sam: I went back to work.

Sam: Yeah I don't think that was on the podcast.

Ash: He wasn't a host yet no.

Sam: Yeah yeah.

Pat: I wasn't hosting I me I love later though but I wasn't house.

Rick: And he never spoke to me again.

Sam: I went back to work the next day was like talking to the stupid buddy crew and the director of chicken was like all you watched you watch Blade Runner what did you think I was like well the cinematography is great he's like yeah and I was like what the story's kind of dated and he just in front of the entire crew just looked me in the eyes and then turned his back on me and then continued running the meeting he was like we're done we're done and I was like.

Ash: Hahaha I mean you don't talk smack about Blade Runner you just don't.

Sam: I made an enemy.

Bret: Sci-fi fandom man.

Rick: Anyways I love the show I love I love love the format that you guys have been you crack me up all the time so keep it up.

Bret: Alright thank you.

Sam: Thanks for joining us.

Ash: Well thanks for coming on.

Rick: Thanks for inviting me that was never but that was never my intent by the way when I give you guys a compliment but happy to be here anyways.

Bret: No worries you want to tell the listeners where they can find you again.

Rick: You can't find me nowhere I don't do any of that stuff.

Ash: Okay good alright.

Sam: It's in the credits of Marvel.

Ash: In the credit yes.

Rick: If you if you watch any of the Marvel TV shows coming out starting next week you'll see my name.

Ash: Well you can't follow Rick but you can follow us on Twitter at let's re-watch where we do fun things like movie poles where we let you guys pick the movie which we really should do it again soon cuz we haven't done that and we also do fun things.

Sam: You know who hasn't gotten to pick a movie is us the post.

Ash: This is true I want to watch Superbad so bad guys can we watch Superbad please.

Bret: I want to watch Superbad Superbad.

Ash: Superbad I want to watch Superbad I can't tell you how many times I've always been I'm always been like.

Pat: Movies 14 years old.

Ash: I'm just going to wash it.

Bret: Had to do a second one.

Ash: But if if we or the host pick the movie or the guests I mean pick the movie I do the other fun thing where I tweet a still from the film and guys this time I picked a really hard one and originally nobody guessed it with the first screenshot I will give a special I had to do a second screenshot to which congratulations Mitch has always came came in from downtown and scored that one.

Bret: Mitch Mitch Mitch Mitch.

Bret: Excellent.

Ash: But I have to give a special shout-out to JV who with my first screenshot guest Paddington 2 hilarious.

Sam: Being wrong is never felt so right thank you for that Jamie I'm literally talking you interrupted me talking.

Sam: If you like our podcast please.

Ash: Now somebody will.

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Ash: Judge a book cover I guess that one's not that new anymore.

Pat: That's been there for a while the other great doesn't book covers yeah the show let's re-watch I don't know about that one.

Ash: I hear that one's pretty bad.

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