To Catch a Thief with Courtney Ropp

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When a man is accused of a crime he didn't commit, Atticus Finchcock woos a widow and her daughter to catch a French bird and recover the jewels or something, idk. We're joined by filmmaker Courtney Rupp @courtcourtoa who knew way more about this movie than we did.

Starring Ash Blodgett, Bret Eagleston, Samantha Willson, and Pat Edwards

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Bret: Big troubleshooting in Little China.

Pat: He was doing a play on words on the actual movie Big Trouble in Little China.

Ash: No yes I know.

Bret: A play on words is when.

Sam: I'm saying.

Bret: Hello and welcome to another episode of let's be watch the show where we watch movies that we left and are used to find out if they're still any good I'm Brett.

Ash: Imash.

Pat: And I'm Pat.

Ash: Choking town that lion pet.

Sam: I didn't think you would I didn't think you would do it. That was impressive.

Sam: But also.

Pat: You should know by now.

Ash: But Pat's super serious about alcohol.

Sam: It's like I hope it was a good wine but I also hope it wasn't too good cuz you just chugged a full glass.

Ash: Bright.

Sam: Before the intro is complete.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: It was the perfect level.

Pat: It was like that right amount where it's like it's good wine but it's not so fancy that I don't feel bad about yeah in a single gulp.

Sam: Perfect.

Bret: Perfect.

Ash: Dying.

Pat: I mean right now I don't but the Heartbreak I'm going to get.

Sam: Are professional.

Pat: Is going to be a thing.

Bret: Well Pat now that you're thoroughly prepped for the show would you like to introduce Our Guest.

Pat: Yes I would love to introduce Our Guest we are very excited to welcome to the show the prolific and talented senior Comics editor you might have seen her work at some IDW or image properties some Marvel properties some Star Wars properties please welcome Heather antos.

Bret: Hello hello.

Ash: Yay.

Heather: Hi.

Ash: Welcome.

Bret: Welcome to the best show.

Ash: Okay.

Pat: As we said before we start rolling Heather thank you for joining us this is our first time back from a little break when I had a new baby nube and.

Ash: That's why he's down in the wine already taking advantage of non baby time.

Bret: Not a slackline bullshit.

Pat: Well that's the thing about newborns it's it's a it's a very tricky it's it it's a it's a horrible or Tyrell backed because high wire tight rope its high wire tight rope portmanteau them because with new baby it's you know it's stressful as tiring exhausting already have kids you want to but you can't really get like you don't really want to get drunk though because the last thing you want to be is drunk and waking up at 2 or 3 in the morning till I get a bottle together or something that is that is a fresh fresh hell but.

Ash: Okay.

Sam: Hence why you took the whole glass of wine.

Heather: Oh my goodness.

Heather: So many things.

Bret: That's face. Just like so it's an exit from this trash out at Heather how specific projects how many have you done how many I want to know all of the things that Pat hasn't told me where can people find you what's your favorite thing you've ever written what's your favorite food.

Bret: Agreed.

Ash: Agreed.

Heather: Maybe Crossing $1 0.

Sam: Are you the the words artist or the Arts artists.

Heather: So I'm editor so I closest closest comparison it's like a showrunner producer for television I you know Source ideas I come up with ideas I find talent I maintain budget schedules deadlines give notes on scripts on arts on colors uncovers interviews marketing projects.

Heather: Yes exactly.

Sam: I just say so you're not busy at all so I bet you super appreciate how we're dragging our feet started.

Heather: Yeah I know it's a lot of coffee and alcohol as you've been saying fat.

Bret: See you then make it happen person.

Pat: Yes that was actually interesting about that so you at some I always wondered is it want like are you working on one series or you have you can have said 20 concurrent that you're working on.

Heather: Yeah.

Pat: That's a lot.

Ash: Wow wow.

Sam: All over the place.

Bret: All over the place.

Heather: Yeah yeah there's there's a lot and like granted to like that that's this isn't every editor this is also because I'm psycho and can't say no to projects and I'm working constantly all the time always but yeah like I charge of all the all-ages Marvel and Star Wars books as well as I do original content there as well and then when I'm in my free time I am also editing for computer and projects things.

Ash: You don't sound busy.

Pat: This is I'm a little bit of Star Wars than my old fan that's a little bit.

Ash: Oh just a little.

Pat: No I might might my newborn son pretty much lives exclusively and cute Star Wars onesies like that's yes I am love it.

Ash: Maybe she worked on those two maybe.

Heather: No no one says I I don't I've never done apparel.

Pat: Did you did you edit you didn't do the bb-8 they see me rollin onesie.

Pat: Okay.

Pat: Okay.

Heather: No but if you're bb-8 fan I did create his the written language of him so like all the sound effects that you see in the comic books like they created that language for bb8.

Bret: Super Bowl.

Heather: Yeah so.

Heather: Yeah.

Pat: Like the the the that's awesome that's one of those things that people don't think about but it's definitely something that if not done right is very obvious like that doesn't those worked out those letters don't look like that he sounds so that's one of those things where I don't like an art form to it where it's like there's no it's just what's right and this you're probably looking like this doesn't feel right or this does.

Heather: Yeah I know I mean that's almost quite literally how I came up with it was I was working on some tie and stuff like a Pokemon comic we're obviously bb-8 had a starting role and Botox.

Heather: Creature or Droid they actually write what they're saying in English in the script so you know you're reading a script in like oh no that's what you Bonkers like actually saying that we don't hear so the actors know how that you know playoffs that are distilled how to draw or that you know animators know what to do and then it gets translated into speaker things like that and so there wasn't this language for bb8 when I started working on that comic and I literally it and it wasn't a thing that was asked of me it's just a thing that me being the you know anal-retentive nerd that I am just kind of created and lucasfilm found out about it and so can you give us that and then we're going to like make this.

Pat: I.

Ash: Wow that's so cool.

Pat: I love that stuff I definitely spend way too much time and energy on projects doing that when it comes to like a made-up words or made up nothing is just made up there's like a reason to it or it means something or.

Bret: So you're like to be be ba as like Finn diesel was to group you like I am greeted all of the bb-8 stuff.

Heather: Exactly yeah no that's I mean that's exactly at yeah.

Bret: Fantastic.

Ash: Wow.

Pat: How to say family cuz I've been I've been watching all the Fast and Furious is for the first time so.

Pat: Really.

Ash: Oh wow.

Heather: I just did a podcast where I watch them off for the first time and did reactions yep I just did that that's how how I spent the first half of this year.

Bret: Goodness.

Pat: Today I watched it I watch number 6.

Heather: That is the one that I quite literally for the life of me cannot remember watching.

Bret: Chug some wine too.

Sam: But you chug some wine too.

Pat: ISO underwear spoiler.

Sam: Oh that one.

Bret: Oh that one.

Ash: And that's why there was a falling-out.

Sam: Didn't include the rest of the family.

Bret: Cuz they didn't include the rest of the family.

Heather: Yeah there's some egos that play there but oh well.

Pat: I believe that the rocky govind easily go yeah.

Ash: What's the Vin Diesel having an eGo-T no way I would be surprised though if the rock I feel like the Rocks probably a cool dude though.

Heather: Physical did he he he he handled the whole thing.

Heather: Very well as professionally as you can and Vin Diesel gets drunk and passes out in the middle of press interviews and red carpets so.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: Oh goodness I miss that one that's wild.

Heather: Which time.

Pat: Yeah also is he drunk in an interview and very inappropriately like hitting on the woman interviewing him.

Bret: Wow.

Ash: Hahaha oh boy.

Ash: Oh yes.

Pat: But the movie we are we're not watching Fast and Furious movie the movie We're watching tonight is actually really fitting since we are we are back from a little break of recording we are watching the wonderful animated film where back is it we're back a dinosaur's tail or dinosaur story.

Heather: Yes yes a dinosaur story.

Heather: Oh.

Ash: Oh.

Sam: We're we're back yeah we're back! A dinosaur story.

Heather: Okay.

Sam: Hot-sheet.

Heather: It's this is exciting.

Ash: Do we all feel like dinosaurs after a long-ass day.

Bret: I feel like a dinosaur only when I'm on Tik Tok.

Sam: Yeah that was trying to teach me some Zoomer language and I was like oh no also I thrifted some really cool pants for $4 that look super hip but on me they make me look like a 40 year old and it was rough and I had to get rid of them right away.

Ash: No no.

Sam: I'm not young anymore.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: That's why you just give up like I do and it exclusively wear monochrome v-neck t-shirts everyday I've got like 20 of them.

Ash: Listen That's a classic look how it's a good luck.

Sam: It is it's very Stylin are we ready to learn some facts about we're back.

Bret: Oh yes.

Pat: I guess.

Ash: Yes.

Sam: I did my I did my research so this movie came out in 1993 which was known as the peak of the dinosaur Renaissance.

Bret: 93 is alright year of the best movies.

Pat: That's also yeah like the patron year of this show.

Bret: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Sam: Yes.

Bret: Please do.

Sam: Go for it.

Sam: Yeah.

Heather: Well yeah it's mice I can can I gave my favorite fun fact about this movie I mean you might have it on your yes Steven Spielberg did Jurassic Park but he also did this so.

Pat: This is a Spielberg joint.

Sam: And yes.

Bret: Yes.

Ash: I didn't know that.

Heather: This is a steel rig Joy yeah.

Sam: Yep they came out the same year they were in production at the same time but this one was advertised as Spielberg's family friendly dinosaur movie.

Bret: They came out the same year they were in production at the same time but this one was advertised as Spielberg family friendly dinosaur movie.

Pat: I like the headcanon that we're back in his mind with the primary project and Jurassic Park was like that's my little pet weird Niche thing though I was going to like we're back my family one that's the one that's going to blow up all the Cutting Room for stuff to put in Jurassic Park.

Ash: Wow.

Bret: So this could have been so many other movies.

Sam: So get this Hanna-Barbera actually owned the original rights to make this a movie from the author of the children's book by the same title and Spielberg wanted to do it as a movie so he got Universal to buy Hanna-Barbera out of the film rights for we're back and not only did Hanna-Barbera want to make that a movie Ron and John from Beauty and the Beast the directors at Disney also wanted to make it a movie until they found out that Spielberg had the rights and they couldn't touch it so one of three yes three movies that the super-hot company amblin Nation amblimation amblimation by don't know company.

Pat: Amblimation like a rambling around.

Ash: Wow.

Bret: Oh.

Sam: Yeah like amblin entertainment but they had a spin-off company in London that did animated films and it only completed three including we're back yeah.

Ash: Oh no.

Pat: What were the other two.

Bret: We're back to.

Sam: Let me see I do but I have to get the know An American Tail Fievel Goes West was there first and then we're back came out after and then Balto.

Pat: I mean.

Ash: Balto.

Heather: Oh my God so they had like three great films.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: Yeah search up free bangers and route.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: Yeah.

Heather: Yeah I realized I was going to say like 03 film so I guess they had a nice run know they had a really good run.

Ash: Yeah wow.

Bret: Yeah I wonder what they must have been like that I don't know the how much money any of that was made but maybe they were just like really poorly like received in theater something.

Heather: Maybe.

Ash: Sorry what was that name again.

Sam: When we get to the money game we can talk about that but this film is directed by Phil nibbelink who might know from a lot of Disney stuff but I can't quite.

Sam: Bill.

Ash: Neville link.

Bret: Nibbling.

Pat: Is it a b or p is it feel like my name or be like bread.

Ash: That's what she said yeah.

Ash: Oh.

Ash: Also very good.

Sam: Alright so he was an animator at Disney on a bunch of stuff Great Mouse Detective Black Cauldron who framed Rodger rabbit so he's got his animation chops also cool fun fact is this was also co-directed by Simon Wells who directed The Time Machine and.

Sam: Then went on to work after this film at DreamWorks and he worked in The Prince of Egypt flushed away and along with your beautiful co-host Samantha Wilson worked on The Croods so I have met this director and worked with him at DreamWorks Superfund is very nice very humble.

Pat: What was flushed away again.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: I just.

Ash: Yeah that one wasn't create.

Sam: Didn't watch it it's fine you know I didn't say that one it's real bad sorry DreamWorks I love you but it's real bad he was Art Department though he wasn't responsible for the story on that one.

Pat: Like rats and the Rats.

Ash: Really.

Sam: Yeah rats that get trapped in the sewer and there's like a lot of gross jokes.

Heather: What's the movie that everyone wants to see right like that just.

Sam: Boilers pet.

Heather: We just found the title alone I'm like I don't want to see this.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah yeah exactly.

Pat: Yeah no no not the movie I wouldn't cheat no I'm saying that Flushed Away cast is ridiculous.

Ash: Another great last name.

Sam: Okay cuz the cast for this is pretty ridiculous okay I'll jump through rest of this real quick it's also co-directed by Dick Van dang that sandbag stick there really are defrance it's.

Ash: I love all of them.

Sam: Okay.

Pat: I'm not going to cheat on money game I'm not going to cheat on Monday game I'll go and I'll look after.

Ash: He's going to cheat on money.

Pat: I don't cheat.

Ash: Okay.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Sondag dick sondag the writers are John Patrick shanea who wrote Moonstruck and doubts and Joe Versus the Volcano so he actually had to do a rewrite of the script because the first one was not going so hot never creative differences and then it's based off the book by Hudson Talbott that I the same name that came out in 87 but dude this cast is a flipping insane cast we've got Star John Goodman.

Pat: Lovett.

Ash: Well wow.

Sam: Yep and then we have Rhea Perlman who you'll know as the mom from Matilda jayleno is in it and yeah Walter conkright Cronkite.

Heather: My favorite my favorite credit and this Cronkite.

Ash: That's so Random.

Sam: Cronkite Larry King and get this Julia Child.

Bret: Excuse me.

Pat: Okay.

Ash: What's really.

Sam: Julie Julia Child is in this so I'll also Martin Short.

Ash: Oh my gosh.

Pat: Really.

Ash: Wow.

Sam: So he's in this in this is his first animated acting career acting role it's very confusing.

Pat: Wells like half of them are not actors.

Bret: SSI confusing list of actors because it's like people whose names are like a list of names but like not not known for this.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: Totally.

Sam: Yeah yeah it's kind of crazy.

Pat: And Larry King.

Ash: Background yeah.

Heather: You know Walter Cronkite and his animation career Julia Child's their animated careers.

Pat: Do they play I wonder if they play them no like the news report play themselves now.

Sam: I do.

Ash: Let's do a cooking show but make it animated.

Heather: I don't think they do from from my memory I don't think they do I know Walter Cronkite.

Sam: Yeah he's play somebody named captain new eyes at Larry King as himself.

Heather: Oh okay.

Ash: Oh oh.

Sam: Julia Child is Doctor bleed.

Bret: Doctor right now Glebe.

Sam: Blieb yep and Martin Short is Stubbs the Clown.

Ash: That checks out.

Bret: There's some good character names in this.

Sam: Yeah yep and we also have Charles Fletcher who was from who framed Rodger rabbit who's the villain and then we have Yeardley Smith who is on The Simpsons so she plays Lisa.

Heather: Nice.

Ash: Oh.

Sam: Yep.

Ash: Interesting.

Ash: That's exciting.

Sam: Yeah so we've got a ton of people that we know.

Ash: Yeah I totally remember John Goodman like he's the main thing I remember from this movie.

Heather: It's the one the one yeah the one saying that's the one seeing that everyone remembers looked at my phone and that's all I'll say I won't say which one it is.

Pat: I remember the zero sound from this movie I have lot of visuals I feel like rattling around I remember doing nothing sounds so.

Ash: Yeah I don't know if I remember a specific scene I just really remember his voice this movie for sure yeah okay.

Heather: You'll know what scene it is when I cuz it's because it's the only thing I really remember.

Ash: I'm the only seen I remember and I might be jumping the gun here I don't know Sam if you would more facts or trivia.

Sam: I have a lot more facts I can read but I didn't want to like.

Sam: Talk to you tell me your fact it's better if it comes from you.

Heather: Wow.

Ash: It's not a fact it's just the only thing I remember about this movie is the end when they're in Central Park and it's not a spoiler but it's like kind of scary it's like a scary night seed and Central Park and that resonated with me so much that as a child I remember being afraid of traveling specifically like to a city and a loan like I think even until I was like in college was I like fearful of traveling alone to a city because they made it seem so scary it was a kid I just remember that and I'm probably going to watch this and be like that wasn't scary at all but it was like I just remember as a kid feeling like this is super intimidating and scary and anything can happen to you in a city and and people are people are trying to kill you in the park or whatever you know.

Heather: I remember every.

Sam: I mean it could be you just finish talking on our end.

Ash: Nope no one else okay cool.

Sam: There's a bit of a lag.

Heather: I remember.

Heather: I remember the like the movie like the embarrass it's like a creepy like.

Heather: Reverse version of everything yeah but.

Heather: I don't know I feel like even as a kid this movie was weird.

Sam: Yes.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Pat: Remember that the ending is borderline traumatizing prices.

Ash: Okay.

Pat: Yeah.

Heather: Well that's a lot of kids movies that's a lot of kids movies like I sit and watch you know and I'm just like really you're making this for kids.

Sam: Yep.

Heather: Terrifying.

Pat: Yeah I am rebuilding that with my girls on like Disney plus watching stuff and feel like this is kind of scary or problematic scary or both like nope nope we're not going to watch.

Sam: Does a lot of racism.

Heather: Skip it specific scene.

Heather: What from that from that from the company that made Song of the South.

Pat: It's.

Heather: No7 jumbo do.

Sam: You need.

Ash: I don't remember that being scary.

Sam: No it's racist.

Pat: No no it's not scary is racist.

Heather: Is that scary it's just it's just a very racist.

Ash: Okay.

Heather: It's very racist.

Ash: You said something about like traumatizing and then you mention Peter Pan so I just thought.

Pat: I said both I said both think this is scary.

Pat: But.

Ash: Yeah I just remember the end of this movie was it was it was traumatizing for sure.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: And it was very like hot and cold and reviews like certain people like it's so edgy I love it and then other reviewers or like it's terrible and there's no plot in this movie so it's kind of funny but.

Sam: Seventeen magazine listed this in 2017 as one of the best 18 animated films to watch on Netflix.

Ash: Oh wow.

Sam: Seventeen magazine why I don't know.

Sam: We could be a first-rate.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: It says I'm just I'm really excited to watch it because he got interested in our email to ride like that isn't this is a movie that I remember liking as a kid and watch multiple times but I forget it exists all the time like and there's times I'll be reminded of it and like did it actually exists now being validated that does exist.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: That's out.

Heather: So what should have some point as a kid I don't remember Lake my first exposure to it that you know at all in any way I just remember they're singing dinosaurs in it and like what more do you need you know like freely as a kid that's it you need and and it wasn't until in college I got like I discovered that late and we video and Blockbuster may they rest in peace would sell like you know used DVDs you know cuz when it's a new release you think it 10 of them and then once those two weeks or update cell you know Jada Bell or whatever so I would buy them and like literally I would just buy like 20 DVDs a week and they would sleep.

Bret: Yeah I remember $2 DVDs man I miss those days.

Heather: Right yeah.

Ash: Hahaha.

Heather: Yeah that's all I would do and then I moved to New York and had to get rid of them all because space doesn't exist but I'll never forget the Indus was this was my Lake from memory of this movie one of my really good friends and College Lake had a terrible breakups like terrible terrible breakup and so I was like we're having movie night and like whatever reason this movie came up and I didn't own it and I bought it right away so we can watch it during our movie night you know it's like a cheer up type thing and then we discover this movie.

Sam: Is that I didn't look at the running time.

Heather: It's very short.

Sam: That's an excellent.

Bret: Is a short is it.

Heather: It's late.

Pat: It is only an hour 12.

Ash: That's what she said.

Heather: Yeah it's like really sure.

Sam: Our 12 wow wow wow alright.

Bret: Goodness wow Ash.

Heather: It's like I feel like it's like it gets going and then it's done you know.

Bret: That's always a.

Sam: That's always a great sign.

Sam: Yeah.

Heather: But like that's but there's also 93 like animated movies were that let you know what I mean like they know you didn't have kids movies that were longer than 90 minutes sleep didn't exist.

Bret: I can appreciate brevity is the children's movie plot.

Heather: Yes.

Sam: Yeah I mean Sleeping Beauty is only like 65 minutes or something crazy.

Sam: So.

Heather: Yeah.

Bret: Hell yeah.

Bret: Gas lapis with the facts.

Sam: I don't think it will be sleeping beauty level but we'll see how to play the money game real fast before we get into our additional memories alright so do you want a little fact before the money game to help you guys out okay.

Pat: Yeah.

Ash: Oh wow.

Sam: This movie came out the same year as Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas so I was also 93 but.

Sam: That movie Nightmare Before Christmas was the only successful animated film that year.

Ash: Oh wow.

Bret: But that's like a tough thing right cuz it's is hugely successful.

Heather: Yeah.

Sam: But that's like a tough thing right cuz it's hugely successful it's hugely successful it was mostly hugely successful after release in kind of the aftermarket.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah I got a cult following through like merchandising really.

Heather: Yeah.

Bret: Hot Topic.

Sam: Yeah so this aha topic of God and high school sam.

Bret: How many Jack Skellington sweatshirts can you own not enough.

Pat: Really.

Bret: Oh no.

Sam: And I added on like two or three but this movie released for Thanksgiving weekend but there was an insane storm that hit like the entire us and tanked all box office numbers for that weekend.

Ash: Oh no.

Pat: With the whole country really.

Bret: Yeah that's like the world the biggest storm that ever has been.

Sam: Maybe I don't think it hit that's 100.

Sam: So.

Ash: No.

Pat: Interesting.

Sam: Yeah so with that preface the money game has to be a little different because I could find nowhere.

Sam: Nowhere.

Sam: An estimated production budget for the spell.

Bret: Goodness not even a little weird side box on Wikipedia.

Sam: Nope.

Sam: Nothing.

Pat: That's that has really bad they burned a lot of money on this.

Sam: Yeah so when you try to bury your numbers that bad it's not good it's not good so.

Bret: No one can ever know babies going to pull laptop off of thing.

Ash: Oh dear oh no.

Bret: Okay nobody.

Ash: Okay.

Sam: So we're going to do opening weekend guessing and then worldwide guessing because there's no budget probably hi my guess is the budget is probably higher than what it pulled in but.

Pat: Man.

Sam: Who knows so with that caveat domestic opening weekend what do you all think it made.

Pat: 2 million.

Sam: Okay.

Heather: 5.

Bret: I'll say it made like.

Bret: 5 mil.

Sam: Buy milk okay.

Ash: I guess I'll come in I'll say 3 million.

Sam: Okay.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Is a $5.

Heather: 5.

Ash: She already she said $5.

Pat: But us.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: I'll file that was the $5 all you're going for the low the low ball.

Pat: Faisalabad ticket.

Sam: Yes Heather did you want to Heather but.

Heather: You said it wasn't successful I'm really committing to that.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: Nice.

Bret: That's some low numbers though.

Ash: Now.

Sam: It made 3. 7 million so congratulation at congratulations Ash you got close.

Pat: I can I can do it yeah.

Heather: What is that do you have insulation for that what three whatever would be today.

Bret: I don't know yeah.

Sam: I don't know yeah.

Pat: I can do it.

Heather: This is also like 3-point whatever million + 93 not that that's still a lot but.

Bret: Are are 90s movies are usually in the eighties to 120s so this is the very low.

Heather: Gotcha gotcha.

Sam: Yeah it's pretty love.

Ash: Yeah this is.

Heather: Okay.

Pat: I'll be about 7 million today because we didn't have streaming and thinks everyone goes to the movies that's what you did.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Yeah.

Bret: But also and it's even worse because it was a holiday releasing though inside like a prime-time bit and it didn't do anything.

Sam: Other sad other sad fact it had an average theater run time of two weeks.

Bret: That wasn't on anyone's list.

Ash: Ono what's two weeks.

Sam: That wasn't on anyone's list.

Ash: Usher.

Ash: Wow.

Sam: 493 that's at least or it I'm pretty sure Jurassic Park was in theaters for like 6 months so.

Ash: Wow.

Pat: Like I bet they were banking opening weekend they were like their thing we're going to do like 33 like 30 like opening weekend.

Sam: I'm sure I'm sure.

Pat: Roof roof.

Ash: But why not extend why not extend the theater time longer.

Pat: Doing seeing it.

Sam: I don't think it was their choice.

Bret: The theaters get to choose.

Ash: It's just cuz no one was going yeah.

Heather: Because cuz they can get better movies and that will make them money.

Heather: Like that.

Sam: Yep so you guys want to after that.

Bret: Yeah cuz 2 weeks after that you're bringing in the Christmas Fair.

Sam: Yeah.

Heather: Yeah.

Ash: Oh that's true yeah.

Heather: You're at your home alone's and s*** like that.

Sam: Yourself do you do you want to guess the worldwide.

Bret: You played yourself.

Pat: 3. 7 million.

Ash: Yes.

Heather: 10.

Ash: 5 million.

Heather: All right right.

Pat: Her leg is somehow it's somehow lost so much money after opening weekend that is they went down to the total worldwide as less than opening.

Ash: Didn't even do domestic or I mean yeah they didn't even do foreign sales.

Pat: They decided is because.

Heather: I'll do or I'll do a real guess I'll do 10 million.

Ash: Hopeful.

Bret: I think it's like worldwide I feel like is usually double right so like maybe like 8.

Sam: Alright did everyone go.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Hey there.

Ash: Oh nice.

Sam: Yes it was 9. 3 million so right in the middle of your two guesses so catch up Heather.

Bret: Closest tow job.

Ash: Wow.

Sam: Yeah that's not a lot like I'm pretty sure they lost beaucoup bucks on this.

Sam: No bueno.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah is this.

Bret: Is it speak.

Ash: Totally.

Heather: Blake that's like probably John Goodman salary alone for this right like that for one of your actors.

Bret: Is this peak Goodman like is this the peak Peak Goodman years.

Sam: Is this Pete Goodman like is it what I don't know it's probably.

Pat: Cycle on the Great Men years.

Bret: God.

Sam: Yeah he was.

Heather: Probably around there he was their headliner right Roseanne was 88 297 so.

Bret: Wow yeah.

Sam: Yeah it.

Heather: That smack dab middle of Roseanne.

Bret: Yeah before he before he retired from that and went to every weirdest possible thing he could do in movies.

Sam: Yeah.

Heather: Like a dinosaur.

Ash: Oh.

Ash: Oh oh.

Bret: So they put a lot of money into this.

Pat: This thing cost like this thing cost like 30-40 million.

Ash: At least at least.

Bret: Yeah yeah too much that's why I feel like that's conservative.

Sam: Minot Minot so yeah it took further add to what the financial disaster this film was is that it was assumed that was the first non-disney film to use digital ink and paint so had a lot of pricey computers and it was also a CG and 2D combo film they put a lot of money too much yeah yeah too much.

Ash: Yeah totally.

Bret: This is like I want to roll back and see what it what was the budget for pagemaster and they're Bizzaro like 123d shot you know.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Sam: We have the internet weekend.

Bret: Oh yeah we have the internet we can answer that question.

Ash: I'll Google it.

Heather: It was it was $5 now.

Bret: Okay.

Sam: Okay yeah.

Ash: Getting to results but it says 34 million was pagemaster which is actually slow.

Ash: Right.

Bret: But they only had one scene with the CG so we'll see how many CDs are in this.

Bret: Goodness goodness.

Sam: Yep we have one scene with the CG so we'll see how many get this the pagemaster had both a better domestic opening and a higher world war movie.

Sam: Who.

Sam: What Animation Studio.

Sam: Yes it is very pretty wildly wisely.

Ash: Okay cuz I'm getting 60 million 232.

Pat: Spell pirate.

Sam: When you work it DreamWorks they have like three or four movies.

Sam: Yeah how do you assign I mean.

Bret: Cuz it's like cuz it's like when you worked at DreamWorks they had like three or four movies going at once and artists were shared between movies and it's like how do you assign I mean they definitely have real books that know what the movies cost but when they tell the people it's like.

Pat: This.

Sam: DreamWorks historically did not release their budgets so it would just they're all pretty like internet-based guesstimation or like leaked rough budgets if you ever find them online cuz they don't like to release their budgets so I think we're going to have a great time all 72 minutes are going to be glorious.

Pat: Yeah I just remember the dinosaurs in New York I don't descend remember anything about the plot of this like the mechanism what is the plot mechanism.

Ash: Somehow they end up in a circus in Central Park that's the only thing I remember.

Heather: It's it's two kids who say screw this I'm out.

Ash: Oh yeah they run away huh.

Bret: It's one of those.

Heather: And and they have they run away and somehow become best friends with Dinosaurs like that's just cool like that's just like a cool.

Pat: Of course.

Bret: It's also the part of a troll in Central Park.

Sam: Isn't that also the plot of it's also the plot of a troll in Central Park right like two kids.

Heather: And then there's something to do with magic cereal.

Pat: What.

Sam: What okay that sounds awesome.

Ash: What.

Bret: Yeah this is one of those movies where it's like.

Heather: No.

Pat: Like magic spoon cereal a delicious high-protein low-carb cereal that should sponsor us but I eat elephant.

Sam: No yeah no very least Pat will get free cereal.

Pat: What's freedom.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah we doing are we doing predictions cuz I was going to do it.

Sam: Only remember.

Bret: God know I'm cutting that out and bleeping that whole add Pat no more no more at pay-to-play this is this is a movie where the producers maybe Spielberg was like the kids need to learn about how the world Works we're going to make a movie about exploiting the animal friends and I feel like that's what we're going to learn from this movie also or are we doing are we doing predictions cuz I was going to about to kick it off with my I only remember one thing from this movie and it is that this film has the single most horrifying moment in all of children's media.

Ash: Really.

Sam: I don't know secret of nim is pretty terrified.

Pat: 30 only thing I remember.

Sam: I don't remember anything else about this movie.

Bret: If you remember how this ends the the resolution of this film and it's it's there's an adult it's still horrifying look at the horrifying thing to imagine and they were just like yeah yeah that's going in there for sure so that's all I remember and I'm looking forward to watching it and seeing how truly terrible like horrifying it is I don't remember anything else about this movie.

Pat: Are there song are there songs in this.

Ash: Really.

Sam: Yes there's a song There Is there's a song.

Pat: Okay.

Heather: Yes there's there's there's yes it is it is the best it's the best it's the greatest.

Sam: It's do you want me to spoil.

Heather: No don't spoil it.

Ash: I don't either.

Pat: Okay cuz when I Google to find out what the runtime no I don't spoil it but yeah cuz I don't remember song at all but when I Google to find out run time I kept seeing with the word musical pop up and I was like I would love to see just quick side note a super gory like Jurassic Park movie that's also a musical.

Pat: Do you like the people can sing songs that dinosaurs can sing songs like.

Bret: So wait does this movie have songs ordered by a song like they were going to make a musical and forgot to do it until the last minute.

Heather: It's a song this is one song.

Pat: Is that kind of music can you play music with one song.

Ash: No no.

Sam: Yeah one song No it's it's no the choir requirement of a musical is that the music has to further the plot right and not the the lyrics.

Pat: But if you have one song that furthers the plot.

Heather: I made this song just for the thought.

Sam: Avalon.

Bret: Tell that to Lion King the musical have a lot of songs in that that don't further the plot.

Pat: I always took it as like it's a musical if the characters are singing the song in world like.

Sam: Abby. Every song but.

Ash: Right yeah totally I feel like there's a lot of musicals where songs Don't further the plot and they just reiterate part of the plot that we've already talked.

Sam: Yeah bear.

Sam: Fair Pat you want to give your prediction.

Bret: Pat you know exactly what I was talking about right.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: I predict I'm going to be really scared at the end of this and be a little scary Pat and cuz that's the only thing I remember I know exactly what you're talkin about it's a little the only thing I remember about this movie and I'm really scared of it.

Sam: Ditto.

Ash: Wow.

Pat: I might be back here with a blanket over my head.

Sam: I mean I remember getting this film on VHS from my grandma I'm sure she found it in like the Bargain Bin you know Target or whatever and I believe we watched it approximately once as kids and we were like.

Sam: Nope nope no thank you. Again nope.

Sam: No so I remember it was like.

Sam: I like flashes of a traumatic memory of watching this film or in my brain of like colors and then Darkness colors and the Darkness and that's all I remember.

Bret: And that's all I know what I think that's going to be real accurate.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Heather: No no that's yeah.

Pat: I remember one more thing like the child the kids like it's like cool your kid like a backwards hat like cool jacket and like kind of tough but like his heart is good so I am I way off of a cool kid.

Pat: Yeah words like.

Ash: Backwards hat for sure I feel like what you said Sam is totally accurate like I remember the first half of this film being bright and colorful of the second-half being super dark.

Sam: Yeah yeah I'd like visually dark 2.

Sam: Like shadows and dark color.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: That's what I'm saying baby.

Bret: What is it going to be like cuz that was a big thing with pagemaster was like it was so visually dark and muddy the cookie like muddy dark or is it like dark and brooding.

Sam: No.

Sam: Yeah yeah.

Ash: No I feel like this is darker like like I'm saying they made they made Central Park look really scary.

Heather: Now that's just Central Park.

Sam: I know you asked and Heather you gave your like Memories did you want to give your prediction.

Heather: I predict that Stephen King made. The best dinosaur film of all time of the worst dinosaur sellable time in the same movie.

Heather: Or Steven Spielberg I might have said Stephen King.

Ash: How do you say Stephen King Stephen King version yeah.

Bret: Spielberg that would be amazing this is basically Stephen King's we're back.

Sam: Spielberg that would be amazing and I would love to see this this is basically Stephen King's we're back yeah yeah.

Heather: That's true.

Ash: Yai.

Heather: Creepy stuff with kids at the end I mean.

Ash: Right yeah yeah I the weird thing is is even though this terrified me as a child I remember liking it at the same time and I feel like I watched it multiple times but I could not tell you the plot I don't remember much so I'm excited I'm hopeful that all enjoy it but I'm now really terrified of the ending because of what Pat and Brett said and I'm wondering if my memory of Central Park is just like you know blocking out whatever the other horrible part of the end of the film is.

Bret: It's it's real rough.

Pat: Let's do it.

Ash: Okay yeah.

Ash: We all did the thing.

Sam: Yes.

Bret: But yeah was that everybody want everybody to think all right we're going to pause the the recording here and go watch we're back a dinosaur's story why did it need I don't know whatever okay anyway.

Sam: Cuz it was named after the book.

Bret: I'm going to watch that and be back very soon.

Pat: Just roll back the Rock.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Bret: Open the dark gayana floor everybody walk the dinosaur now you want to actually do the one from the movie.

Pat: Oh oh.

Ash: Yeah.

Heather: Roll back the Rock.

Pat: Turn back the clock I get I get turn back the clock what does roll back the rock mean.

Heather: To the dawn of time.

Ash: The earth the earth.

Heather: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah yeah yeah.

Pat: Call Ico the earth and the Rocks they Superman rules.

Heather: Back the rock to the dawn of time.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: That was I was actually.

Pat: Oh okay that makes it still something about this movie does make sounds good okay cuz nothing else.

Bret: That's like some kind of Illusion there.

Heather: Brandon Ray and sugary cereal makes you smart.

Pat: Yeah so.

Ash: Yeah totally.

Bret: The most 90s plot device.

Ash: Oh man.

Pat: Yeah so we are back right.

Heather: It's the most 90 saying where was General Mills were their sponsors.

Ash: Yes.

Sam: Yeah yeah.

Ash: Oh my God yeah totally.

Heather: You're welcome.

Pat: So we're back and we're alive we're recording reggae because I have because I honestly this is easily the shortest movie ever done for the show but but I'm pretty sure I have the most notes.

Pat: Yeah yeah.

Ash: You went from the longest movie to the shortest movie cuz we are going to do chitty-chitty-bang-bang but then we decided it was too long.

Ash: Oh.

Sam: Switch I selfishly very happy that we changed it because my personal name is shity shity bang bang instead of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang cuz I'm not a fan of it.

Pat: Not a fan never seen it.

Sam: But.

Ash: Oh wow throwing down.

Heather: That's like me and the sound of mucus so.

Sam: Fair fair.

Pat: I have the most questions.

Ash: Cases crying somewhere.

Ash: Oh my God.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: I literally want to put this movie up again in I want to like open a window in the chat here and replay it again and we can positively 5 minutes because literally every 5 minutes I have like a question like wait why why is he.

Pat: Yes.

Ash: And every 5 minutes they're just going to play the terrible cartoon horn sound effect for you to highlight but why why is this happening let's play the horrible sound effect that's played so many f****** times in this movie.

Pat: So many stock yes somebody stock cartoon noses I'm going to explain for anyone if you listen to the showing you have watch we're back.

Ash: Maybe.

Pat: The first 5 minutes of this movie is so it starts with a.

Heather: I need to know.

Pat: First five minutes of this movie.

Pat: It starts with a bird family at a family of like bluebirds yes we're bored we are talking about we're back a dinosaur's story where in the kids are fighting over a worm isn't that cute and funny they're going to kill a living thing with a face and eat it and but anyway there's a the baby boy worm and his brothers making fun of them and gets angry and then a Tyrannosaurus Rex wearing a polo shirt.

Pat: Doug playing golf on the ground below them the tree it's not explained it just is so you have talking bird family.

Heather: As you do.

Pat: Brother upset with his lot in life little bit and he meets a talking to your ex's playing golf that is yeah and then from there the rest of the movie is giant T-rex telling his story to.

Bret: Listen.

Heather: Hey hey and it's and it's not just a giant T-rex explicit by John Goodman.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Yes.

Sam: This movie came out.

Sam: Where are they.

Pat: Put the bird has never TV.

Ash: That's true.

Pat: The burden of a TV.

Heather: What's burning in Italian.

Ash: No no the dinosaurs do you remember that show but like.

Pat: Dinosaurs Dinosaurs Sinclair.

Bret: I'm the baby now.

Ash: Yeah I'm the baby.

Pat: Not not the mama not the mama.

Bret: IBuyPower.

Sam: Oh it's horrifying.

Ash: What's this is a.

Heather: I never saw that so your reference died on me.

Pat: What's on Disney Plus.

Ash: You need to adjust just so you can experience the weirdness that was that show ohyeah.

Pat: I think it is.

Heather: Is it is it a Disney adventure.

Bret: I think it was a.

Pat: At the time.

Sam: I think it was ABC.

Ash: I don't think it was at the time yeah.

Pat: It was.

Bret: What whale was at it was weird.

Sam: I think it was ABC which is owned by Disney.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: It's the it's the 32nd is animatronic.

Pat: Puppet robots that have dinosaurs but it's done in the style Source dinosaurs.

Bret: No they were in pain like suits.

Ash: Where they have robots I thought they were people in suits yeah.

Pat: Okay but this is basically.

Heather: Bissell sounds horrifying.

Ash: Well I just.

Heather: Like this this is you're not selling me on this.

Ash: It is or if I.

Pat: But it's like early 90s very protocol early 90s sitcom but they're dinosaurs.

Bret: It was what if the Simpsons are live-action dinosaurs.

Pat: Yes The Simpsons or.

Ash: Yes exactly that's a really good way of putting it.

Ash: Yes that's accurate to.

Pat: Married with Children Married with Children will say like what if Married with Children but dinosaur dinosaurs.

Bret: The series ends with everyone dying.

Sam: Why why do I also feel like John Goodman was a voice of the dinosaur in that show.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Cuz he was in Roseanne which is like the same thing it's pretty much the same thing.

Pat: So anyway this movie where a dinosaur who's talking and playing golf is telling a baby bird his life story.

Bret: Steampunk aliens.

Pat: It starts way back into whatever era the krazoa gresik together era and he's being all big and mean and T-Rex and eating things and then a steampunk e spaceship shows up with a with a little The Great Gazoo.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Tell me how the movie told this story quicker than pad is.

Ash: Are you going to like Marcus through the whole movies.

Pat: No I'm just saying this is the hour open this is guys this is a deranged opening to this movie.

Bret: Yes.

Sam: Yes it is.

Ash: I feel like the bird thing.

Heather: This was the most deranged part of the movie like this.

Sam: No.

Pat: Do Don and I'm just saying it's sent to me instead of town it was consistent but I'm like so much of it as like you didn't why why you didn't have to do this you didn't have to have the baby bird bookends.

Heather: Yes.

Ash: I think the bird thing was like the if I think if you were to ask Steven Spielberg what is this movie about this movie is about leaving the nest and kids growing up and so I think it was a very in my opinion heavy-handed way I did.

Heather: Here's the thing.

Bret: I know you did that are close but there was literally.

Sam: I know you did that you did are close but there was literally no need for air quotes.

Sam: Yes.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Heather: I think this this movie is supposedly based on like a children's book Ray and unlike never in my life have I wanted to hunt down Source material so badly to see like WTF you know like actually you know.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: I mean I guess.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Here's my guess is that the kids book is is a kid who wishes that there were real dinosaurs in the Macy's day parade and then it happens and like the Fantastical Kid book sort of way and then there's some ambiguous anywhere you like wakes up from a dream or something but like the stuffed animals in his room.

Sam: Imagine if Hanna-Barbera had actually maintain the rights and made this movie instead.

Sam: It would be so cute cuz they do Tom and Jerry.

Sam: So I think it was all Spielberg's puppeteering that added all this creepy darkshade in.

Sam: Yeah.

Sam: Yes.

Bret: Alright.

Sam: Yes.

Pat: Are you are you.

Ash: That's what I'm saying is like it's heavy it's really heavy handed the metaphor of the leaving the nested like it also feels like I don't know how long the source material was like are we talkin like a child's picture book or we talkin a like okay cuz the thing is.

Sam: Knee-deep in the kids books right now.

Bret: Listen being knee-deep in the kids books right now none of them make any goddamn sense.

Pat: Are you.

Heather: I thought I found a plot I found the plot of the.

Ash: Bright but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is this movie only had two acts like it was really weird where it was like wait we're still there what happened there's a beginning Act and the last sack yeah.

Ash: Thanks bye.

Pat: I know it'll is the demon parade and the dinosaurs is the only acts in the show.

Sam: Wait what's the weather what's the kids book plot.

Bret: Kids book.

Heather: Alright alright I got you ready.

Bret: Alright.

Sam: Yes.

Heather: One day.

Bret: What.

Sam: What.

Ash: Well.

Pat: So.

Bret: Hey.

Ash: Oh wow.

Heather: And the Cretaceous Period as a as a tyrannosaurus named Rex is about to devour a smaller dinosaur he's captured by a flying saucer piloted by a small reptilian Alien named Ford brightright other dinosaurs including the Apatosaurus the Triceratops can't pronounce that either surafel us this and he has developed which upon seating it to the dinosaurs causes them to be sentient or takes them aboard a saucer and they travel to the present dropping them off in New York City which is at that moment celebrating Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade cops.

Ash: Okay.

Pat: Okay.

Bret: Son of the dark staff.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah.

Heather: No.

Bret: I'm surprised.

Sam: I'm surprised the alien bitizen like book.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: No.

Heather: This doesn't sound like a chuzzle children's story.

Pat: Very stressful.

Bret: The moral of that book is run from the cops.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Wait someone called is heavy-handed.

Heather: MC Kresha the museum.

Pat: The song called heavy-handed are you telling me that movie where the villains name is screweyes and he has a screw for a night lacks nuance.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: Alright but honestly I said it during the movie as I I go to the circus.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: Alright actually.

Bret: Yeah.

Ash: I know that you know what the circus is is its Horror Nights at Universal Studios a hundred percent.

Bret: But it's a better Horror Nights because you sit down and then they bring all the attractions to you.

Ash: To you there's a waiting in line.

Ash: Oh man.

Sam: There is a lot.

Bret: Goodness there is a lot going on in this.

Ash: No yeah.

Pat: Also so I like so there's doctor new eyes any other brother doctors that's also not her name's work you have the same last name as your brother is alive again about numerous episodes I love a villain who knows or villain and enjoys being a villain and if you'd like I got a screw fry I'm going to change my name to talk to screw eyes.

Pat: But why would his name be different.

Pat: Imagix crew magic screw.

Ash: What what came first is the question was he like but like was he like I'm going to have a screw for a die cuz it's really freaky and I'm going to go with it yeah cuz that's the thing is it is a magic screw so it's like what came first that he had a screw for a guy or the Magic The Magic.

Pat: A magic hypnosis screw.

Sam: Maybe he has a different dad.

Sam: Daddy screw eye.

Pat: Okay.

Sam: Her daddy.

Bret: Screw Daddy.

Heather: Or maybe get maybe they were twins that were fertilized by two different.

Ash: Screwed.

Pat: Their their Mutual mother has a thing for guys whose last name has eyes in it so she dated a guy the new eyes and I got a new screw eyes.

Sam: Yep.

Ash: Listen she knows her type and she sticking to it.

Heather: Some people are in defeat some people are in defeat others are in dice.

Sam: What if their last name is eyes and they're just adding their middle name.

Pat: Oh no.

Sam: Yep.

Ash: Oh okay so their middle name is screw.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: He was doomed from the start like the like the mama lion that named her kids car.

Sam: You know.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Bright.

Heather: Cars cars not his real name.

Sam: TRUE.

Heather: It's a nickname he got after you got a scar so you know.

Ash: So what came first the screw eye or the.

Heather: Yeah no wonder he can't forgot to be a villain right.

Bret: Which like everyone in the whole Community was addicted scar to the case Garza dammit.

Pat: Fair enough I still subscribe to the fact that he just changed his name to that cuz it's like he whatever circumstances led to him having said magic screw-in eyeball isocket he's like I'm Doctor screweyes even though it's in that grammatically it really hurts my soul because he was the one.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Pat: Is it.

Sam: Exasperation.

Bret: SS aspirational.

Ash: Wow you just offer lawyer that.

Pat: The other one I got this one done I'm saving up it's a really expensive procedure I'm going to get this other one done.

Bret: So I mean while we're on this cries subject here.

Heather: Which which part.

Ash: And your screw us but life in heat.

Pat: Okay.

Ash: That's the part that traumatized you.

Sam: Yes.

Bret: The white boy he gets eaten by the crows after immediately after expressing his fear of being eaten by the crows.

Pat: I mean kind of yeah they eat them but also a y.

Ash: It really wasn't that traumatizing.

Bret: The eat they eat them.

Ash: There's some freaky ass scenes in Brave Little Toaster that I think are more scarce than the corrosive.

Heather: Yes that's terrifying.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Pat: I refuse to watch that I refuse to let my girls watch that because of the corded mouth thing with the vacuum. Parts scared the f*** out of me but because.

Bret: Conspiracy theory.

Sam: Okay let's hear it.

Pat: Yes I mean first let's go let's work backwards cuz I have a whole thing I have a thesis Idaho thing but.

Pat: Why the crows the Kroger is nothing is explained in this movie really except for like we have cereal make you smart we have vitamins make you dumb other than that nothing to explain.

Ash: Which is the opposite of what it was at the books heathers.

Bret: Did they say they were vitamins I thought it was like like just did hard drugs like he's like.

Pat: He said like a Vienna Road.

Heather: They say nothing about cereal in the book so.

Ash: Yeah they're just like kids like cereal right.

Sam: I mean they had to pay for this movie somehow right.

Bret: Was there a cereal.

Pat: They they were totally going to do his successful they were actually going to make real brain grain cereal with the Dinosaurs on it.

Heather: I'm now I'm looking up we're back serial to see if it was like.

Bret: Where is my brain brain.

Ash: Yeah with little dinosaur figures yeah.

Pat: They had to have that locked and loaded and would have been like a marshmallow cereal but is also like but we've got these whole-grain pieces Bugattis whole-grain pieces too but also.

Pat: Why you looking at.

Ash: But marshmallow dinosaurs totally what else is wrong with this movie pet.

Heather: Is there creepy.

Pat: The white why the crows why are they like stalking him and why did they all the sudden he wasn't alone.

Sam: Have you ever pissed off a crow.

Bret: Have you ever pissed off a crow.

Pat: I do know the whole Vendetta's but he also technically wasn't alone cuz we're there still people in the stands.

Pat: Yeah.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Bret: They were full of people so the crows just ate him in the middle of the audience.

Ash: They did.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: They played fast and loose with that audience because they were there when they needed them and they were gone when they didn't.

Pat: Faith never address.

Bret: I don't know.

Ash: I felt like that whole that whole scene where the like a clown is like Hamming it up in the audience is like laughing I was like you guys needed to feel sometime huh on way too long.

Sam: I don't know.

Ash: Yeah.

Heather: We got we got a past 60 Minutes guy.

Sam: I don't know if they needed to pass the time so much as they needed to stop the children from crying in the theater.

Ash: That to maybe.

Pat: Disgrace.

Pat: Fifi.

Pat: Single talk about is.

Ash: But is it creepy to like cats podcast mystery screw Hayes watch.

Bret: Did you see the saddle offense.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: It's a freak Show.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Yeah.

Pat: Listen the thing is visit I need to get this I need to get this out of my head he's not he's like shity like the whole life trying to lock people like these like contracts and like using magic and trying to like his ss-20 of slave the dinosaurs stuff that part shity right but his circus is not inherently doctor new eyes called him cruel but his circus is not inherently evil it's just I just tore.

Heather: Well yeah but also keep in mind this was made like.

Pat: Yeah.

Heather: During the satanic satanic panic.

Heather: Play keep in mind it was like dead in that time.

Heather: Not saying it's right but.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Fair no no no fair fair fare is only like really like bad freaks weirdos like scary things and if you indulge in that you're not a good like the questionable labor practices.

Ash: But child labor laws that aren't being sold.

Pat: But.

Bret: Are you got to wonder how many of the people that work for the circus had been working there since they were children.

Ash: Yeah we got a Hansel and Gretel situation.

Pat: Butts Tubs Subs allowed to just quit apparently whenever you wanted to.

Ash: Yeah I was confused.

Sam: As truth.

Sam: That's true.

Sam: The real.

Bret: Well see that's the that's the secret about Corporate America that they don't want you to know if you just walk away at any time that's about that that's the real that's the real moral of the movie is if you're in a bad job just leave.

Pat: He's a shrewd negotiator.

Sam: Yeah to go make sure a sick park he was like bye.

Bret: Jurassic Park.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: Yes I saw that I caught the.

Ash: Do you think that's what Spielberg did during this movie and he was leading but do insert Jurassic Park in here in the background please thank you for the free advertising moment.

Bret: What.

Sam: Fun fact so this version is a rewrite of the script because the previous version was too dark.

Sam: Oh no.

Ash: Wow wow yeah when you said Brett that you were like oh the ending of this is really terrible I like I was like man do the dinosaurs gets stuck at the circus-like is it that sort of effect upending cuz.

Ash: About weed eaten by Crow.

Bret: Now I just had like nightmares about a crow crows eating people for like eight years after watching this movie.

Heather: I don't know maybe maybe maybe it's just me maybe sit maybe it's a girl thing maybe it's the like o creepy old man got eaten yeah he deserved.

Ash: Yeah a hundred percent.

Heather: Borzoi.

Ash: It is so.

Ash: That would have been really scary yeah.

Heather: Yeah that would have been scary.

Sam: It was so traumatizing to me as a kid that I as an adult remembered it as like a full-on like flurry of crows attacking him as he was like like screaming for his voice that's what I remembered it.

Ash: That would have been like some Children of the Corn s*** right there's that would be for sure.

Heather: This was more like it just Erie that anything else like Wyatt and and and and.

Sam: After he was.

Ash: But for his Magic Eye.

Bret: Immediately after he was like I'm worried about the crows.

Pat: The closer weird.

Heather: Feed your damn crows.

Ash: That's true.

Pat: I just need to explain because then also they like intentionally sabotaged him with the flare like the one flew over and hit the flare button.

Ash: Yeah.

Ash: I wonder they gave.

Pat: Are the crows devolve beings.

Ash: Oh from his circus that he's like.

Pat: Were they sentient bird people.

Sam: Oh.

Ash: Oh that's good I like that.

Pat: They come from an Intergalactic Society.

Sam: Pat.

Ash: Or maybe it's like when he has people come into the circus and like if he like gets tired of them or they disobey like he turns them into a crow but they still like hang around you know.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: This is good guys you should team up and rewrite the adult horror version of we're back.

Heather: Yeah.

Heather: With with the animatronic dinosaurs from Jurassic Park.

Bret: I'm glad you specified adult horror because.

Pat: And more songs is going to be more songs in a virgin.

Heather: The adult version.

Ash: Oh no.

Sam: Who made about this.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: For a second there I cycle the adult version of we're back and then it made me think of all the comments you made about this movie while we were watching it that all that the female characters in this movie existed for no other reason than to be horny.

Heather: That's that's.

Ash: Yeah it's really even the child even the child.

Heather: Yes.

Ash: So f****** gross.

Bret: And they had John Goodman.

Pat: Yeah they like 6.

Ash: Yeah that was the worst part yeah.

Bret: No Roofing.

Ash: Just disappear.

Sam: Yep that pissed me off so bad every time is just like rolling my eyes.

Ash: You know what really turns me on Rex when I look at you I just want to procreate like what the fuc.

Sam: Lay an egg.

Bret: Yeah.

Heather: That's fine the kids won't understand that.

Bret: Doubt.

Bret: What's.

Ash: I said I guess Blake was at his home.

Pat: Within the Hudson.

Bret: Yeah they just.

Ash: I assumed that he was like.

Ash: Did he do that's right that's right.

Pat: He had a home Contraption to make an egg sandwich.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Where were his parents.

Bret: I feel like you just can't ask too many questions about that opening scene with with Louis in there cuz we're to get erect why they think it was pertinent to bring his skateboard into the water with him just like what was he doing out there where is the parents why aren't.

Ash: Itis.

Heather: Also it's also it's Thanksgiving it's f****** cold in that water.

Ash: Yeah that's true.

Bret: Think about that.

Sam: Yeah I didn't even think about that.

Pat: Also.

Ash: I just assumed he was homeless and like living on this raft and then they like destroyed his home and he didn't seem to react at all and I was like what the hell yeah totally.

Pat: Is Hawk thinning through New York.

Pat: Also doctor new eyes I like a why don't you just take him to the f****** Museum you can go anywhere in time and space with this ship.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: Why drop them.

Ash: Oh right why does he almost murder the dinosaurs by kicking them out of his face ship I don't even make any sense.

Bret: It was a poorly conceived the whole plan.

Sam: I mean where are you going to drop multi-ton dinosaur in the middle of New York in the rivers.

Pat: On the roof of the building.

Sam: I guess I guess.

Bret: End of the Macy's Parade I mean the book had the right idea uou were saying you knew a second person that worked on this.

Bret: So a lot of these people went from.

Ash: Okay.

Bret: Also formed by.

Sam: Oh I did I work the producer Steve hickner I worked with that DreamWorks as well so alot of these people went from amblimation to DreamWorks which DreamWorks it was also formed by Spielberg so there is some crass over there.

Bret: Crossover there been despite the bizarre elements of the film we did notice that the animation was actually like way overdone and like pretty good.

Sam: Is stunning guys the animation is so stunning except for a few scenes at the end was like they ran out of money.

Bret: Also at the beginning but once they got into the New York.

Sam: Like.

Ash: Oh wow.

Bret: Yeah she kind of like look if you go back and watch.

Ash: Did you guys watch it.

Sam: Yes watch Bells face tells face her eyes like back and forth she does not hold her form.

Bret: She does not hold her for.

Ash: Where did you watch it on.

Ash: Okay yeah.

Bret: Okay so we're at we're at at rented it cuz I thought was free on YouTube and I started playing it and it looked like trash and then I went and rented it and it also look they look worse in the rental for a few minutes to pick up and it got better so.

Ash: Okay I'm going to say on YouTube it did not look pretty.

Bret: It was just surprising to see like Steven in a future usually you don't anime everything on ones which is like animating every single frame but they did for almost everything throughout the entire movie.

Ash: That's true yeah the crowds.

Heather: Oh I mean.

Sam: It's like some Richard Williams level s*** and he's the guy that did the thief and the cobbler and they animated the background characters the crowds were fully animated they're like kids in the background playing basketball and they were just beautifully animated in like a really limited character design like that's why you would watch this is if you're studying animation because holyshit guys this was an expensive f****** movie.

Bret: Like you could see the dollars being burnt.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Yeah.

Heather: I mean just just roll back the rock like that whole like the crowds and the parade like they're there's texture on those clothing that people have you know like it.

Heather: Insane.

Ash: Or the scene where they fall into the river and you're seeing like the beautiful reflection of the city in the water and they're like interacting with it and yeah that was definitely impressive.

Heather: Yeah.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Bret: Totally unlike most of that like that's the hand-drawn stuff but there is almost like a full minute or two minute-long segments the 3D fly through of New York in 93 can you imagine how much that cost to render like.

Bret: Yes.

Sam: Yes.

Ash: And I will say the 3D animation fit really well with the 2D like it didn't ever feel like there it is there's the 3D.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: No they did a lot of work to make it blend and look beautiful I'm shocked at that because the story is so.

Sam: Small-time but it's like Pinocchio level stuff.

Bret: Yeah I like pre pre Pixar this has to be one of the most if not the most expensive animated movie like it was kind of like whatever it there is a way more effort put into like creating the visuals in this then most stuff I can think of that was that's 2D.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Wicked Sister Palmer.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah I mean I got to hand it to them that Source material is wild already and so like I get the idea of like Willits insert this kid character and try to have like a narrative there but it's yeah I can see they try.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: Well that's the that's the home that's the Home Alone grab right you like you got to have like a snarky kid.

Pat: Yeah.

Pat: I got that.

Heather: Did John Williams score this.

Sam: No it was somebody else like Richard something.

Heather: Okay I was going to say.

Pat: Tom Williams.

Bret: Alright.

Sam: Alright.

Ash: Billions.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: His alter-ego is his alter-ego he does. He's not proud of.

Heather: Yeah right maybe maybe Ted Williams watch this is he was scoring at he was like.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: Man we were watching The Good the Bad and the Ugly over over the weekend and.

Sam: James Horner Palmer.

Sam: Corner.

Bret: I just all I could think of was man John Williams didn't didn't actually make up any of the things he's famous for like half of the soundtracks that's John Williams ever made are in the Good Bad and The Ugly.

Ash: Interesting.

Pat: Really.

Bret: If it's ridiculous.

Sam: Oh my God that's hilarious.

Bret: Oh my God.

Pat: Search Ashton how their bread sandwich when you jumped off before you watched it and like I love the idea.

Bret: Kind of has like those fives though right like the but I'll make Jurassic Park if you let me make that my animated passion project.

Sam: Shoei play IMDb.

Bret: IMDb.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: Blah.

Ash: Sure I will say though as a director real quick it's it's really nice to see even the greats don't always knock it out of the park.

Sam: I mean to be fair he didn't do wrecks it.

Heather: I produced it.

Ash: Oh he didn't know I thought you said you did sorry.

Bret: You just had a shotgun full of money.

Ash: Instead here take some.

Sam: Yes.

Pat: Heather Salmons about the lie to you she's about to do a lie and untruth.

Bret: Yeah it's it's two truths and a lie.

Heather: Or we can't be friends then I'm not friends with Liars.

Pat: Yeah.

Sam: Alright so I am DB for those are enough about your I present you with three facts but one of them is secretly a lie and you have to guess which one.

Sam: So.

Sam: First fact they actually created.

Sam: Dinosaur balloons for the real Macy's day parade the year that this movie came out in theaters and in a Twist of events the balloon got caught on a traffic light and.

Bret: Real.

Ash: I hope that's not a lie I really hope so.

Bret: The animators for this movie visited Jurassic Park.

Bret: And got to study the animatronic.

Sam: Take a fact the animators for this movie visited Jurassic Park the set and got to study the animatronics for a reference for the animation for their dinosaurs.

Sam: And then.

Bret: John Malkovich.

Bret: Set to voice.

Sam: Third fact John Malkovich was originally set to voice Professor screweyes but dropped out because he didn't agree with the directors on their vision for the film.

Bret: John Malkovich would have been a good professor screweyes.

Ash: So good yeah.

Bret: Like that just makes sense all of these are good he's a good ones.

Ash: All these are very good I'm going to say the first ones Elijah just because it's too much of a metaphor of true I mean I hope it's true it's just so ironic.

Pat: I'm said to cuz I don't feel like there's any real like those dinosaurs had no physics behind them.

Bret: But they have that.

Pat: Independence movie.

Ash: Well yeah that's that's true.

Bret: They have the real dinosaur section though like could have been.

Ash: Dade City.

Heather: Yeah I'm going to I'm going to stay to 2 cuz I don't think that timing lines up like they would have to be animating this way before.

Heather: Jurassic Park Avenue.

Bret: Yeah I'm going I'm going with you as well.

Ash: Sweet so late we wait the balloon real.

Sam: It is to.

Pat: I fully believe that.

Heather: I need to know more about this balloon.

Ash: It's so perfect.

Bret: So magical.

Sam: So magical.

Ash: Oh my God everything.

Pat: I I mean that totally that totally fits like everything is eight something that cost a lot of money it's something they put they double down and we're super invested in and then they f***** it up maybe a fumbled it.

Ash: God every step of the way of this film.

Heather: Is this wait wait is this why the movie had such a shity release because that balloon today.

Ash: Yeah.

Bret: I didn't get all their advertising dollars out of it.

Sam: Maybe.

Heather: I know when the bloom.

Bret: You think that would just create.

Sam: But you think that would just create more Buzz right.

Heather: Not if no one saw or heard the internet didn't exist.

Ash: Yeah the internet.

Sam: It's too but can't you just get you to see them.

Bret: Spielberg just a raging at home watching the parade that goddamn alone.

Pat: Okay okay okay okay okay okay okay I'm driving it.

Ash: Wait did you find a video of it.

Bret: Oh yeah the video there's a video of this.

Sam: Video there's a video of this.

Pat: How can I add a picture of the deflated racks.

Ash: Oh my God I want to see it.

Sam: That'll take a deuce segment.

Bret: Is it in Discord.

Pat: Chateau and General Auto and general general tax.

Bret: I got to see.

Pat: It's kind of horrifying.

Ash: Oh my God we have to remember to post this on Twitter.

Bret: Oh my gosh oh no it looks like he melted a horrifying.

Ash: But just his face just his face.

Bret: That's not how I would expect the balloon to deflate.

Pat: Does Jesse's getting it looks like Rex.

Sam: Oh no listeners it looks like he melted and like a horrifying yes a lot like the end of Who Framed Rodger rabbit when they.

Bret: He got dipped.

Ash: Yes I need to see there's still walking with him like see like toy space tilted the braids.

Ash: Oh no.

Bret: Oh no.

Ash: Face melting.

Pat: Who's the Magic imagine. Watching it with their kids and they see it right before it happens like where to go see that movie with that dinosaur in it isn't that so exciting and then just screaming and crying.

Sam: Yeah.

Bret: I'm genuinely saddened that we didn't get a John Malkovich as Doctor screweyes.

Sam: Yep.

Ash: Oh my gosh right totally.

Bret: I can just hear it in my head.

Bret: Damn.

Sam: Yeah it would be good if you really good but wasn't in the works it's okay tried Malkovich deserves.

Ash: Yeah he made the right decision I think for his career.

Pat: The baby he would have made it great.

Heather: He didn't share a Creative Vision as the nicest way of saying yeah this sucks.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah exactly.

Bret: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah.

Heather: No this this actually I run into this all the time and like sourcing pictures and stuff like that for my job is is it's exactly that it's a lot of adults saying this is what kids like without actually like understanding.

Ash: Yeah.

Heather: How to actually create something children.

Sam: I mean.

Bret: Yeah.

Heather: All the animation yes.

Sam: That is true of like the actual story but I feel like the animators actually totally got they got what kids like cuz Brett and I were watching it and just be like oh my God I remember laughing at that I remember that like the ladies hair like falls off and really can't we busted up laughing at that as kid.

Pat: What's up.

Heather: But cats don't like hats.

Ash: It's too many cooks in the kitchen it's like too many people trying to shove things into it for marketing reasons.

Sam: Yeah yeah.

Sam: Did they.

Pat: I'm thinking about the logistics of wrecks golfing.

Pat: But how did that work out.

Sam: Oh yeah God he's got out of the worst thing in the world that's why he was using his 9-iron on the Green.

Bret: The worst thing in the world he was using his 9-iron on the green he was only ever on the green cuz he's just Puttin.

Ash: Yeah.

Heather: He's the Mozart he can't do lines and he can't drive I will say after reading the plot.

Heather: The children's book.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Bret: TRUE.

Heather: Somehow the movie seems more children appropriate than the book because there's actual children in them.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: Yeah.

Heather: Wish machine.

Ash: Yes.

Heather: That's the Crux of this whole movie.

Bret: They got.

Pat: We can see to the end goal here think of the technologies that are available you have intercourse lactic peaceful like Omni powerful benevolent Society you have time travel you have the ability to the wish machine machine.

Heather: I wish I had a best friend.

Ash: Yeah.

Pat: Did Billy take any animal and make them give them human level of Consciousness and become find and result the some of these parts is you're going to play with some kids at this Museum Ivory Saturday afternoon.

Bret: Fast cars and flamethrowers.

Pat: Fair.

Sam: Okay okay okay yes Pat but also look at the technology we have today and look at our billionaire Elon Musk what the f*** is he doing with his money he's doing exactly that he's reliving his childhood dreezy trying to go to Mars change to live out his childhood fantasies.

Pat: Doctor neweyes is the real villain I agree Sam.

Sam: Yes.

Bret: Yes.

Heather: I will know you're you're dead you're dead on and that if Elon Musk like I want to hear people's wishes so I can make them come true and I can was like I wish I had a friend he likes I'll get him a dinosaur.

Heather: That's what happened that was the plot of this movie.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Bret: Absolutely.

Pat: Very very.

Sam: Absolutely.

Sam: Yep.

Heather: A real life dinosaur man yeah that's some cereal.

Ash: Ikea.

Bret: Yeah he's his brothers like I run an unsuccessful circus.

Ash: Oh yeah.

Sam: I'm okay I'm so glad you brought that up I was going to say this before Pat had his last comment did they or did they not steal inspiration from killer clowns for their f****** horror circus it was like shot-for-shot out of killer clowns.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: Yeah I can see that.

Bret: Yeah I like the 10 like collapsing and all that like that.

Bret: Are the ex list does dinosaurs look.

Ash: Oh really oh they look really good.

Sam: Killer Brothers video amazing because Kyoto Brothers also made the dinosaurs for the Santa Barbara Zoo there is an excellent Perfect Choice.

Bret: I was there when they were making the skin for him and like the process of like building the realistic skin texture.

Ash: I was there when they were making the skin like the creepiest thing you can say.

Sam: Play Silence of the Lambs review Fred.

Bret: It's a thorough cool alright.

Bret: If you like.

Ash: Exeter was fantastic I thought should with my hand.

Bret: It felt like what I would imagine would be a realistic like dinosaur skin I don't know if we go.

Sam: But thanks for making a weird ass.

Ash: Yeah they are very well then the things you hear nowadays.

Bret: Thanks for making a weird Ash.

Pat: T-shirt t-shirt.

Bret: Yes.

Ash: Puts the lotion on the skin move I really appreciated the AV guy at the circus he was like my favorite.

Sam: Yes but so good.

Pat: Oh yeah is jamming out.

Sam: Buns.

Pat: Sure.

Sam: We should cuz our babies waking up.

Bret: So I don't know you guys are all in the final thoughts who's who's got who's got wrap-ups.

Sam: Yes.

Sam: Yeah.

Ash: One last really quick saying I was surprised at the amount of diversity in the children initially when the dream machine I will I do want to say way to go 90's animated film for having some.

Bret: Sam was like he's wearing a sombrero.

Ash: Yeah.

Sam: I was like I was like yeah right I bet kids in Mexico definitely were ponchos and Sombreros in 1993 totally.

Sam: Yeah.

Pat: I was holding my breath though I'm like please don't let them do accents please let there be bad accents when I saw those kids like come up I was like please don't be defensive accent please.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Sam: They didn't.

Bret: Alright Progressive of them.

Sam: But yeah the truth that was Progressive of them at the time.

Bret: Who's going to crack in the final thoughts.

Ash: Yeah that's for sure.

Sam: All go cuz I hosted story is Dreadful it's not good but it's short enough to where it's not a super drag to watch and it's so what the f*** that it wasn't boring so I'm thankful for that and I was pleasantly surprised with the animation so I had a lot of fun watching the quality of movement and the quality of animation and the quality of the physical comedy I really like that part of it so.

Sam: I don't think it's quite enough to be pets net-positive.

Sam: But it's very neutral like for me but I don't expect normal people to appreciate the animation like I do so I think if you're not an animation nerd there's not a lot for you here.

Ash: I'll see what I watch something Wild.

Heather: I think.

Sam: Yeah let's see what I get very intoxicated.

Sam: Yes.

Sam: Yes.

Heather: I think if you're not an animation person but you like singing dinosaurs this is definitely a movie for you.

Heather: Yeah I know I look like is it a great movie absolutely not is it a super fun movie to watch and just like have a laugh at 100 0ke you seen and short enough that you're not going to waste you know your whole afternoon your whole life watching this but it it's it's a pretty good WTF movie.

Bret: For sure.

Heather: And have a have a Drinkin and have a good time.

Heather: Yes chant at Wine Tap.

Ash: Yeah I think you did it right that get drunk and watch this movie that's the right order I wish.

Pat: I'll get more.

Bret: Earlier I don't remember who was it was going on about just all the all the individual pieces so many is small part to this movie or really fun.

Bret: Because me and Sam were both animation nerds I think I enjoyed it a lot more than I would have if I was just watching it for the movie but I was just like they spent time doing that like I was this so detailed and also so bad but like but the animations good what's going on here why is the animation so good in this movie that sucks.

Bret: But I haven't had a good time watching it I'm not I'm not as as down on it as you guys I laughed at the Clown.

Sam: Iowa to think Martin Short did an amazing job as a voice actor.

Bret: I love Martin Short.

Bret: And.

Ash: Hahaha.

Sam: I mean I kind of I could see it I could see it because.

Bret: I did you know I was considering going off on a rant and I'm continuing the doctors coronavirus is actually the good guy but you know what am I going to try today it's his only crime was riding bad contracts.

Sam: Involuntarily turning children into monkeys.

Sam: But the words to text.

Bret: Fake teeth by sign contract.

Pat: It is probably in the it's probably in the contractor all he's allowed to and they agreed to it.

Pat: They shouldn't have f****** sign the.

Bret: That's the kids fault you always read never sign it unless you read it.

Sam: The text didn't appear till after he signed also he didn't sign he grabbed his finger and pushed it onto the contract.

Bret: A girl just stayed at all entirely though.

Sam: Well I don't know.

Heather: Hey kids.

Ash: That was a really good life lesson without reading it.

Bret: But now I I liked it I would watch it again if a kid was around I would watch it and I would enjoy it a second time because I think it's got some rewatchability if for nothing else than all of the weird background animation stuff that goes on because I can animators love doing that s***.

Sam: Yeah and they had plenty of time and budget to do it in this.

Sam: Animated.

Sam: Yeah the animation is good.

Pat: This is your favorite movie is what I'm hearing.

Bret: Tik-Tok though the animators that have too much time series guys you know you have plenty of time did you say we have Time anime like show adjust the most wildly animated whatever that's what this movie felt like is I think the animators actually might have had too much time and they just put 120 0nto it and it was it was good wasn't good but you know what I mean.

Sam: Oh.

Ash: I think we need Vincent to watch it and give us like a quick little what is events in Centennial.

Bret: Yeah I will get him to do it.

Sam: That would be adorable let's see if we can get them.

Pat: Did it do my final thoughts are I just I still this movie I have to go back and watch it again there's just too much going on.

Ash: You're still processing.

Pat: I'm still processing cuz it just I mean I wasn't bored cuz not just cuz it's short but like it doesn't really have like a down time just goes as this happens it happens it happens this isn't Bam Bam Bam with Louise big emotional moment with racks like you know each other like two hours.

Ash: Alright.

Pat: It was a very short timeline.

Pat: Yeah it was just I am still Blown Away to buy by Heather's discovery that the whole alien going back in time to think that is Canon and I'm like that's just so needlessly complicated as like you can streamline the hell out of this evil scientist trying to like bring dinosaurs and in turn them into whatever for evil machinations purposes something goes wrong and they get loose the New York and they befriended kid and he like helps them find their place.

Ash: Or you could start it at the Museum maybe they're like you know models at the museum that hit turn into real dinosaurs.

Pat: Why aren't they telling the kids at the Museum the story what's the bird thing is so wild.

Ash: Yeah yeah.

Pat: How come the birds can talk to the birds get the brain drain.

Ash: I don't I don't know that's a good question I do all animals now have the brain drain like they just gave it to all animals on the planet now.

Pat: So it's like that worm to they're going to eat so they're going to eat a sentient worm.

Ash: Aren't all.

Bret: That's a different that's.

Pat: This is a dark this is a dark world you just positive Dash.

Bret: Have y'all seen Watchmen right.

Bret: 3012 I think I'm.

Ash: The movie or the TV series I have not seen the TV series.

Pat: Do you have.

Sam: It's so good.

Bret: Yeah.

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